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Dealing with the negative polarized - SkyGodWarrior - 10-29-2018

Does anyone have any experience dealing with negative polarized beings? I have a lot of experience with it and have been successful with removing them from my life and from my body but some persist... and they continuously re appear later after a while.... Im referring to the section where Ra talks about biding these beings farewell...

Ive seen some scary stuff but I am not afraid... because I know the truth... the sadness that exist and how they ignored the light from within... I am teaching and showing them love.

It doesnt help that I live next to a cemetery and that my room mate is constantly bringing those depressive energies in....

Thanks


RE: Dealing with the negative polarized - GentleReckoning - 10-29-2018

If you have a higher vibration than your society, you will manifest experiences that bring you to the societal vibration. Wether that is through psychosis or through interactions with physical beings makes no difference.

Think of a ticking clock. If you have 2 ticking clocks (with the pendulum) they will eventually tick exactly the same. Therefore if you have a higher vibration than your society, it will take conscious action, and intent of god-like nature to maintain that level of happiness. If you keep trying, you will eventually manifest the wisdom necessary to get to that level. Unless you have more spiritual gravity then your entire society.

All is well.


RE: Dealing with the negative polarized - ada - 10-29-2018

Put some crystals around your house, light an incense from time to time, or try burning some sage and walk around. And if you're really, like really bothered, then you could always use cut garlic. It's specified in the Ra material. Wish you well.


RE: Dealing with the negative polarized - anagogy - 10-29-2018

I can tell you this. Negative beings only come to reflect negative patterns in your mind.

They don't really 'cause' them. They just exacerbate existing distortions. This doesn't
mean they aren't 'real', or anything like that. It just means, we all have great power
to attract vibrations and we have to be responsible about how we use that power.

As within, so without. We are all one. You can try to rearrange the reflection in mirror
and in your bustling back and forth the reflection might change a little as you change your
position trying to attack the reflection, but the changes are always transitory and ephemeral.

They don't last, in other-words.

Change the self, and the reflection of the self has to change too. Fill yourself with light
and astral critters can't lob onto to nurse off the negative energy you release.

It is like if you constantly lived in unsanitary conditions and you got infected by some
bacteria. And you take some penicillin and kill the bacteria and then another comes
to replace it shortly thereafter because you are still rolling about in the unsanitary conditions.

You can fight with the effects perpetually, but the source is always the self, because the self
is the creator and it will never stop being the creator even when it forgets that it is.

Same scenario. Just offering another way to look at it.

Reflections, within reflections, within reflections, but it all comes down to the garden of your
mind and how you tend to it. Do you let the weeds grow, or do you carefully tend to the garden
and catch them in the early stages before they grow their thorns and spread their seeds?
The will is an important part of it. Choose to surround your mind in love and light. The more
attention you give love and truth, the more repelled negative beings will be from you. Turning
your attention away from that is the ultimate mechanism by which they fester in your ethereal
bodies.

Keep the creator in your heart often, and wisdom will flow freely the more often that spiritual
connection to your source is invoked.


RE: Dealing with the negative polarized - SkyGodWarrior - 10-29-2018

Thank you all for your replies
@GentleReck... What do you mean by society? Close friends? People I know? People that I live next to? People that live in the same space? I feel like the people I am surrounding myself by has vastly improved since they are positive beings looking to create something.. "entreprenuers" I havent recently been spending time with them... maybe thats what it is... too...

@Blossom... I recently created a grid within my room and I have a small crystal grid in my room too. At its center is a black tourmaline pyramid... I wonder if it will be better to use a quartz pyramid instead... could you guys tell me what the direction I should align my pyramid.. I was thinking 33degrees north west but I couldnt remember if that was accurate... Since the crystal grid was errected that has helped a lot....
I used to get dark beings that would come from no out of no where in the middle of the night... one looked smilar to a death eater had wings though..... I caught that thing and threw a punch and it flew off into the sky... I wonder where it went...

@anagogy
yeah.... everything was going great until i realized that my roommate was screwing his dog.... then that threw me off... I was really angry... then really sad.... then really confused as to why would I be in such a situation..... hopefully my plan works out....
but yeah i noticed I was a little negative and depressed and forgot all about transition to my new diet... gained the weight that I lost... tsk tsk... im just now coming back up from it.... Guardians haha told me I had to do something about the rut im in...
But I have been feeling disgusted with porn... I would watch it and started getting real creepy dreams... I stopped for a while and then recently did it again.. which is probably another reason why I got that being....

oh to be alive...


RE: Dealing with the negative polarized - GentleReckoning - 10-29-2018

Well, first your close associates, then any societies or cults that you are a part of, then finally everyone in your environment. The difference in happiness between one individual to another in close proximity being one potential point of disconnection through which intelligent infinity may decide to manifest.

So if you're really happy, and everyone else is sad, that's a potential hole in your aura as the balanced state would be for you to share your happiness with everyone. Obviously not always possible due to various beliefs held by groups of people. If you have lots of money, and everyone else has little, that's another potential vector of attack.


RE: Dealing with the negative polarized - SkyGodWarrior - 11-02-2018

Ahh I see what you mean.... good thing I have been surrounding myself with well to do people and I am starting to see the heights of kindness and love around me.... I just have a few kinks in the garden hose of abundance.... although it flows infinitely... My room mate is a pain in the ass who gets depressed alot but I am dominant..... I even claim most of his space energetically and if anything wants to challenge me... they have to deal with me... its not recommended..... although I do not attack anymore... i show authentic love... so thats probably worse of others....

Yeah If I changed a couple things but I almost dont want to because I dont want to get comfortable and give up.... so complicated... but not.... The universe knows me.... they know I stick with something until it is take away by God haha...


RE: Dealing with the negative polarized - loostudent - 11-02-2018

(10-29-2018, 05:53 PM)anagogy Wrote: The will is an important part of it. Choose to surround your mind in love and light. The more
attention you give love and truth, the more repelled negative beings will be from you. Turning
your attention away from that is the ultimate mechanism by which they fester in your ethereal
bodies.

I don't think that's the way it is. As Ra said light emanating from attempts to be of service to others in a fairly clear and lucid sense, is a type of calling in that it represents that which requires balance by temptation.

Jesus said in a parable that when you clean your house the negative being runs away for some time. But then it comes back with more helpers.

Negatives don't have much work to do with unpolarized and STS people. It's when you start progressing in STO, then you have to prove your intentions by resisting temptations to the opposite.


RE: Dealing with the negative polarized - anagogy - 11-02-2018

(11-02-2018, 02:00 AM)loostudent Wrote:
(10-29-2018, 05:53 PM)anagogy Wrote: The will is an important part of it. Choose to surround your mind in love and light. The more
attention you give love and truth, the more repelled negative beings will be from you. Turning
your attention away from that is the ultimate mechanism by which they fester in your ethereal
bodies.

I don't think that's the way it is. As Ra said light emanating from attempts to be of service to others in a fairly clear and lucid sense, is a type of calling in that it represents that which requires balance by temptation.

Jesus said in a parable that when you clean your house the negative being runs away for some time. But then it comes back with more helpers.

Negatives don't have much work to do with unpolarized and STS people. It's when you start progressing in STO, then you have to prove your intentions by resisting temptations to the opposite.

I think you are misunderstanding what I'm saying. Allow me to clarify.

I would agree that STO acts/intentions attract beings who want to stop these STO acts. They want to stop the spread of light. The more light there is, the less room there is for darkness. But it is *also* true that love and light repels them as well. What recourse does darkness have when light is turned on it?

It can only retreat to the shadows -- the small nooks and crannies not bathed by the light. Light and darkness cannot coexist. Darkness has no ultimate power over light, for it is merely the absence of it. There is no switch by which one turns on the 'dark switch' and an inky blackness fills the room to 'turn off the light'. Rather the light is turned off, and darkness takes it's place.

For those who have chosen the path of falsity, if they fail to turn your attention away from love and light, they are depolarized and in their failure to control, depart. People unsure of their convictions are the most easy targets, because they readily give into temptations towards darkness or selfishness. That's why I said the will is an important part of it. If your will is solidly on the light, what do they tempt you with? They are repelled by such a being. Which is why the only contact the two polarities have with each other in fourth density (for the most part) is in attempts to sway the less than completely polarized 3rd density being.

They aren't allowed to just make you have a stroke and die, for example. That would depolarize them also, because it violates free will. The distortions have to be chosen. Thus, their only means of ingress is our own weakness in holding to the light. In other-words, in my opinion there is no rule in the sky saying you have to be tempted to balance your innate goodness, but it often seems like that is the case because the negatively polarized don't want to lose territory. In fact, I would argue that truth is much more natural than falsity. Well-being is much more natural, and plentiful, than unwell-being. There is not an equal amount of both. But appearances can be deceiving. Especially in the physical world (a mere 1/7th of the true reality) And pain is often far more noticeable than pleasure. And cold is often more noticeable than warmth. But if your intention to do good is shaky, they will of course take fast advantage of it. Because in such a circumstance, the will is *not* turned wholly towards the light but only partially. Thus where your gaze overlaps or fades into shadow they have a route of ingress. A gap in your spiritual armor. But there is no vibrational assertion. We create our own realities. No one does it for us (imo).

When the mind is turned toward temptation, that is turning the mind away from light and towards darkness. So really, that is just another example of not holding steadfast to the light. I'm not completely disagreeing with you, because it would be the rare individual who was so strongly polarized towards the light that they never were tempted or even darted a stray eye toward something selfish, something dark.

So realistically speaking, I would agree with you. But in a strictly metaphysical sense, I stand by my original statement that light repels darkness, and that negative beings can only match the vibrations one is offering (meaning to the extent you activate vibrations concomitant with their reality, they have influence towards your reality. You tune to their channel of influence by the thoughts you choose). Even Ra spoke of the trauma wrought on Orion crusaders having made accidental contact with a positively polarized wanderer (a rare event). Unless they are able to depolarize them. Which as Ra noted in the section, is almost unheard of, even having made contact in the 3rd density realm.


RE: Dealing with the negative polarized - loostudent - 11-02-2018

anagogy Wrote:What recourse does darkness have when light is turned on it?

I agree. First darkness is driven away at more basic/obvious level. It can't enter so easily no more. It has to move to more clever/hidden temptations ...


RE: Dealing with the negative polarized - loostudent - 11-02-2018

anagogy Wrote:If your will is solidly on the light, what do they tempt you with?

Devil is "the father of lies". "Even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light." Temptation is distraction and deceit. Sometimes we fall into thoughts that appear to benefit our spiritual growth e. g. activism, ritualism, messianism ... The principle is to suggest something that appears good (light) or to suggest something good in twisted manner or measure.


RE: Dealing with the negative polarized - Infinite Unity - 11-06-2018

(10-29-2018, 02:04 PM)SkyGodWarrior Wrote: Does anyone have any experience dealing with negative polarized beings? I have a lot of experience with it and have been successful with removing them from my life and from my body but some persist... and they continuously re appear later after a while.... Im referring to the section where Ra talks about biding these beings farewell...

Ive seen some scary stuff but I am not afraid... because I know the truth... the sadness that exist and how they ignored the light from within... I am teaching and showing them love.

It doesnt help that I live next to a cemetery and that my room mate is constantly bringing those depressive energies in....

Thanks

All experiences exist based on learning/growth.


RE: Dealing with the negative polarized - SkyGodWarrior - 08-17-2019

@Loostudent, from expiernce it depends on the type of being your dealing with. Since you are a source of polarity and a bigger boost if they are able to get it from you that is why some beings return but only if they can deal with you haha.... I cheat sometimes and channel the beings higherself.... you cant ignore what you have hidden away if what you know is truely infront of you.

Once you get to a certain level where fighting is pointless.. that is when the games appear lol.... i have seen many games since even being seen by me is not a good thing for negative pol beings.... I also started trying differnt things previously... I know teleporting them somewhere unknown is a bad thing so I just capture them in a energy box and send them to higher realms... im not quite sure how beings feel in the higher vibrations feel when I do this but the results from the negative polarized beings so far have been... they either come back completly healed... or they they want nothing to do with me anymore and just leave but they seemed like they are drunk or dazed...

im not sure what that does karmicly either.... so use caution when doing it if you can..... I recommend the sending love and light method through the Law of One.


RE: Dealing with the negative polarized - Bosphorus1982 - 02-20-2021

If you're refering to the discarnate energies, i can't say anything; however for the incarnated negative ones, best way is to approach them with love wherever and whenever possible. As love is the true power in anything. Btw, afair, there was a 6D STS entity who visited the Bring4th forum. His name was Zaxon. You can distinguish him from the absence of emotions in him and from his egotism. I recommend you not to read so much what he has written; as it really affects and this in a negative way. I had bad time reading his posts. Anyway, if you're interested, the title of the thread was Greetings from the dark.


RE: Dealing with the negative polarized - Sacred Fool - 02-20-2021

(02-20-2021, 01:13 PM)Bosphorus1982 Wrote: however for the incarnated negative ones, best way is to avoid them wherever and whenever possible.

Ha ha.  I can think of one negative being you can never avoid.  It is not always so, but is now and then disdainful, angry, motivated by fear and so forth.  You'll never get anywhere trying to avoid that one!  They say that the only productive response to such as these is love.
   


RE: Dealing with the negative polarized - jafar - 02-21-2021

(02-20-2021, 03:55 PM)Sacred Fool Wrote:
(02-20-2021, 01:13 PM)Bosphorus1982 Wrote: however for the incarnated negative ones, best way is to avoid them wherever and whenever possible.

Ha ha.  I can think of one negative being you can never avoid.  It is not always so, but is now and then disdainful, angry, motivated by fear and so forth.  You'll never get anywhere trying to avoid that one!  They say that the only productive response to such as these is love.  


Couldn't agree more, they're part of you who got stuck with their (limited) identification, with their temporal role.
Helping them to 'migrate' and 'move on' is the best course of action, if such desire has came into them.
If not, then simply telling them that 'this' is not their only option might be enough for the moment, the 'other option' is waiting for them when they're ready.


RE: Dealing with the negative polarized - Raukura Waihaha - 02-21-2021

All is one and not all STS is about power over/under. Some people just prefer to be alone.
Having said that... I find it quite naive when STO people seem to feel like they're in the right, by trying to save STS or imply they'll get it eventually, like STS isn't part of the creator's plan and we aren't doing what we came here to do.
Most here choose the ironic path of excluding STS or acting like they're superior in their chosen perspective of all that is.
I'm more than likely STS although I never thought of myself in that light, until recently.
In 2002 I had a vision that seemed to show me that all is one and I spent alot of time trying to understand the epiphanies I had. I always felt like I was born to help others reach the state that I had stumbled upon. I say this because up until the vision, I was dead set on doing my own thing, regardless of the effect it had on others, even my wife and 2 children.
I now feel like I was harvested STS.
I started seeing things before they happened and used it to my advantage.
I'm learning to understand my choices since then and all of them point to me choosing this, as a means of acting as catalyst for others.
I've been told by a theta healer that I ascended in South America 25,000 years ago and chose to return to help others reach the same level of consciousness that I found...when one feels pain, we all do.
I feel like the perception of STS is quite distorted, especially on these forums


RE: Dealing with the negative polarized - Sacred Fool - 02-21-2021

(02-21-2021, 02:01 AM)Raukura Waihaha Wrote: I now feel like I was harvested STS.

I feel like the perception of STS is quite distorted, especially on these forums

Well, we're all moving from our own personally designed distortions to an undistorted Union with the Creatrix in our own peculiar way, are we not?  So it is, no? What's the point of complaining?
   


RE: Dealing with the negative polarized - Raukura Waihaha - 02-21-2021

(02-21-2021, 02:54 AM)Sacred Fool Wrote:
(02-21-2021, 02:01 AM)Raukura Waihaha Wrote: I now feel like I was harvested STS.

I feel like the perception of STS is quite distorted, especially on these forums

Well, we're all moving from our own personally designed distortions to an undistorted Union with the Creatrix in our own peculiar way, are we not?  So it is, no?   What's the point of complaining?
   

Exactly.
I'm not complaining, merely observing. It's more like watching kids argue over who's Dad is the toughest.


RE: Dealing with the negative polarized - Raukura Waihaha - 02-21-2021

(02-21-2021, 03:56 AM)Raukura Waihaha Wrote: It's more like watching kids argue over who's Dad is the toughest.

And what I mean by that, is that although the kids all feel right in their opinions, the Dads would probably look at it as a big joke that holds little to no weight, from their perspective.


RE: Dealing with the negative polarized - Ohr Ein Sof - 02-21-2021

(02-21-2021, 02:01 AM)Raukura Waihaha Wrote: All is one and not all STS is about power over/under. Some people just prefer to be alone.
Having said that... I find it quite naive when STO people seem to feel like they're in the right, by trying to save STS or imply they'll get it eventually, like STS isn't part of the creator's plan and we aren't doing what we came here to do.
Most here choose the ironic path of excluding STS or acting like they're superior in their chosen perspective of all that is.
I'm more than likely STS although I never thought of myself in that light, until recently.
In 2002 I had a vision that seemed to show me that all is one and I spent alot of time trying to understand the epiphanies I had. I always felt like I was born to help others reach the state that I had stumbled upon. I say this because up until the vision, I was dead set on doing my own thing, regardless of the effect it had on others, even my wife and 2 children.
I now feel like I was harvested STS.
I started seeing things before they happened and used it to my advantage.
I'm learning to understand my choices since then and all of them point to me choosing this, as a means of acting as catalyst for others.
I've been told by a theta healer that I ascended in South America 25,000 years ago and chose to return to help others reach the same level of consciousness that I found...when one feels pain, we all do.
I feel like the perception of STS is quite distorted, especially on these forums

How do you say, "All is one" then in the next breath say STS is this and STO people are that? Are you saying that all is one or all is separate or are you saying you separate people when it is convenient to making a point?


RE: Dealing with the negative polarized - Patrick - 02-21-2021

(02-21-2021, 02:01 AM)Raukura Waihaha Wrote: ...I find it quite naive when STO people seem to feel like they're in the right, by trying to save STS or imply they'll get it eventually, like STS isn't part of the creator's plan and we aren't doing what we came here to do...

I am guilty of this.  I really don't believe STS was part of the plan of this Octave.  But now everything has been rearranged to fit this new variable and the resulting dynamic of polarities is now so central that this whole Octave revolves around it.

Quote:77.19 Questioner: Do the Logoi that choose this type of evolution choose both the service-to-self and the service-to-others path for different Logoi, or do they choose just one of the paths?

Ra: I am Ra. Those, what you would call, early Logoi which chose lack-of-free-will foundations, to all extents with no exceptions, founded Logoi of the service-to-others path. The, shall we say, saga of polarity, its consequences and limits, were unimagined until experienced.

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(02-21-2021, 02:01 AM)Raukura Waihaha Wrote: ...not all STS is about power over/under. Some people just prefer to be alone...

I disagree.  STS is at the expanse of others, otherwise it is still STO.  Working on your self alone is very much STO.

Ra 19.15: "...The break becomes apparent when the entity perceives other-selves as other-selves and consciously determines to manipulate other-selves for the benefit of the self. This is the beginning of the road of which you speak."

https://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/2007/2007_0211.aspx Q`uo Wrote:...In this regard we would suggest that the skillful choice is always to work on the self without regard for working with other entities. Service to others, working upon what you perceive needs to be done in the world, begins and ends within yourself. Until the point at which you are asked specific questions that you may answer in what you hope is a spiritually helpful manner, the work you do on yourself is sufficient and more than adequate in terms of how you may affect the consciousness of planet Earth. Change yourself and you change the world. That is how powerful you really are...

https://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/1995/1995_0924.aspx Q`uo Wrote:...The focus upon the self in the means of balancing distortions and looking for ways to understand more of what is occurring within the self is an activity that may seem to some to be full of pride and ego, yet we would suggest that such a concentration of an entity’s attention upon its own self in that manner is a means by which a seeker grows, for it needs to be aware of the activity of intellect, of emotion, and of the spirit that moves within one’s own being. Yet that information is used only to temper the steel, shall we say, the character of the entity, and not to impose this character upon another...

https://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/2001/2001_0204.aspx Q`uo Wrote:...Many times, it seems to each, that there is no way that one person can be of service, that one person’s light can make a difference. However, this instrument is fond of saying that in a dark place the light of one candle can be seen for quite a distance. Metaphysically, this is far more true even than the physical truth of candles and sight. Each of you makes a significant difference to the lightening of the planet as well as to the lightening of your soul. For when each of you does one, each of you is doing the other. To work on the self is to work on the world. Indeed, to work on the self is the most direct and effective way to work on the outer world in a metaphysical sense...

https://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/1980/1980_0518.aspx Q`uo Wrote:...You need only to work upon yourself, so that you are a clear channel, unmoved by the ridiculousness of many situations, and in great humor when others find a situation quite grim. For you see, you dwell in the midst of a great cosmic joke and a great cosmic tragedy. And the ability to see both polarities of this truth equally is a very helpful one in dealing with yourself. And when you have dealt with this polarity within yourself, laughing at your grief and solemn in your joy, you may be of balanced help to others, for you may not then be touched by their difficulties to the point where you will be unable to respond in the way the Creator within you would respond...

https://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/2007/2007_1124.aspx Q`uo Wrote:...in that same general run of seekers there is often a prejudice against working on the self, for it seems selfish to be absorbed in the processes of the self. It is our opinion that it is in healing yourself that you heal the world. It is in learning to love yourself that you learn to love others. It is in finding compassion at last for yourself that you are finally able to have compassion on others. It is in blessing your own suffering by respecting it, honoring it, and forgiving it in yourself that you become able to behold the suffering of the world in its massive and almost infinite depth...

Quote:80.11 Questioner: Could I say, then, that implicit in the process of becoming adept is the seeming polarization towards service to self because the adept becomes disassociated with many of his kind?

Ra: I am Ra. This is likely to occur. The apparent happening is disassociation whether the truth is service to self and thus true disassociation from other-selves or service to others and thus true association with the heart of all other-selves and disassociation only from the illusory husks which prevent the adept from correctly perceiving the self and other-self as one.

Quote:99.8 ...The right-hand and left-hand transformations of the mind may be seen to differ by the attitude of the conscious mind towards its own resources as well as the resources of other-selves...

Quote:19.15 Questioner: Then the newest third-density beings who’ve just made the transition from second are still strongly biased towards self-service. There must be many other mechanisms to create an awareness of the possibility of service to others.

I am wondering, first— two things. I’m wondering about the mechanism and I am wondering when the split takes place where the entity is able to continue on the road towards service to self that will eventually take him to fourth or fifth density.

I would assume that an entity can continue— can start, say, in second density with service totally to self and continue right on through and just stay on what we would call the path of service to self and never ever be pulled over. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. The second-density concept of serving self includes the serving of those associated with tribe or pack. This is not seen in second density as separation of self and other-self. All is seen as self since in some forms of second-density entities, if the tribe or pack becomes weakened, so does the entity within the tribe or pack.

The new or initial third-density entity has this innocent, shall we say, bias or distortion towards viewing those in the family, the society, as you would call, perhaps, country, as self. Thus though a distortion not helpful for progress in third density, it is without polarity.

The break becomes apparent when the entity perceives other-selves as other-selves and consciously determines to manipulate other-selves for the benefit of the self. This is the beginning of the road of which you speak.



RE: Dealing with the negative polarized - Aion - 02-21-2021

I would enter the concept that it both was and wasn't part of the "plan" of this Octave.

Without being able to go too deep in to it, on a "multi-octave transuniversal scale", there is an interaction that occurs "between" universes.

Every Octave, or Creation or what have you starts with the foundation of its previous iteration (the Matrix anyone?), however this is essentially just a canvas. The way an Octave is shaped in the early phases are by the Guardians, we who come from other completed universes as builders to create the structure of this new octave, or rather, to implement a design which will unfold. It was decided by these Guardians to take the path of a Polarity Game style creation, to use a poetic notion. You see, when a universe "arises", like a bubble forming in an endless sea, it "calls" for 'completion', that is, the Creator longs to be reunified with itself. There are a many ways to "resolve" a universal bubble so that it reunifies (of course for another to arise afterwards), and the use of polarity is one of many tools.

The reason this particular tool was chosen is because a number of the Guardians already had experience with this type of universal structure and so they felt it was a reliable method.

Thing is, each universe is unique. It is like the raw material which then through processing has its many characteristics revealed. Thus the design was chosen and implemented, but the actual way in which it would manifest within this universe was unknown. It was known there would be polarity, but the manner in which it revealed itself was a discovery. That is what makes it a "game", or a puzzle even. Once the design has been inserted in to the universe, the task is to figure out the way it has manifested so as to bring it to a state of unification, and more importantly, to simply "do the work".

This is the Great Work, the unfolding of the cosmic design which is done through the gradually revealing of the design in the consciousness of the Universal Being, of which we are all cells.

At the end of it all, this universe shall be a new Guardian, fully matured and able to walk in-between.

All this, of course, just 'according to my research'.


RE: Dealing with the negative polarized - Aion - 02-21-2021

Also, even though this is an old thread, to respond to the topic, I think the best thing we can do to deal with 'negatively polarized beings', is to explore our own negativity. The more we bring these things in to our awareness and are able to address them with conscious choice, the less we will be affected by subconscious energizations of these distortions.


RE: Dealing with the negative polarized - Ohr Ein Sof - 02-21-2021

(02-21-2021, 02:01 AM)Raukura Waihaha Wrote: All is one and not all STS is about power over/under. Some people just prefer to be alone.
Having said that... I find it quite naive when STO people seem to feel like they're in the right, by trying to save STS or imply they'll get it eventually, like STS isn't part of the creator's plan and we aren't doing what we came here to do.
Most here choose the ironic path of excluding STS or acting like they're superior in their chosen perspective of all that is.
I'm more than likely STS although I never thought of myself in that light, until recently.
In 2002 I had a vision that seemed to show me that all is one and I spent alot of time trying to understand the epiphanies I had. I always felt like I was born to help others reach the state that I had stumbled upon. I say this because up until the vision, I was dead set on doing my own thing, regardless of the effect it had on others, even my wife and 2 children.
I now feel like I was harvested STS.
I started seeing things before they happened and used it to my advantage.
I'm learning to understand my choices since then and all of them point to me choosing this, as a means of acting as catalyst for others.
I've been told by a theta healer that I ascended in South America 25,000 years ago and chose to return to help others reach the same level of consciousness that I found...when one feels pain, we all do.
I feel like the perception of STS is quite distorted, especially on these forums

Quote:This is due to the sincere belief of fourth-density negative that to love self is to love all. Each other-self which is thus either taught or enslaved thus has a teacher which teaches love of self. Exposed to this teaching, it is intended that there be brought to fruition an harvest of fourth-density negative or self-serving mind/body/spirit complexes. From 26.34



RE: Dealing with the negative polarized - MrWho - 02-21-2021

Why not reach beyond polarity and rest within 6th density like Ra?

https://www.lawofone.info/s/1#1

Quote:We, too, have our place. We are not those of the Love or of the Light. We are those who are of the Law of One. In our vibration the polarities are harmonized, the complexities are simplified, and the paradoxes have their solution. We are one. That is our nature and our purpose.

https://www.lawofone.info/s/90#29

Quote:We wished to impress upon those who wished to learn of unity that in unity all paradoxes are resolved; all that is broken is healed; all that is forgotten is brought to light. We had no teaching plan, as you have called it, in that our intention when we walked among your peoples was to manifest that which was requested by those learn/teachers to which we had come.

Brothers and Sisters of sorrow.

https://www.lawofone.info/s/15#7

Quote:There is but one service. The Law is One. The offering of self to Creator is the greatest service, the unity, the fountainhead. The entity who seeks the One Creator is with infinite intelligence. From this seeking, from this offering, a great multiplicity of opportunities will evolve depending upon the mind/body/spirit complexes’ distortions with regard to the various illusory aspects or energy centers of the various complexes of your illusion.

Thus, some become healers, some workers, some teachers, and so forth.

https://www.lawofone.info/s/17#2

Quote:It is only possible to make catalyst available in whatever form, the most important being the radiation of realization of oneness with the Creator from the self.

https://www.lawofone.info/s/10#14

Quote:Questioner: For general development [of the] reader of this book, could you state some of the practices or exercises to perform to produce an acceleration toward the Law of One?

Ra: I am Ra.
Exercise One. This is the most nearly centered and usable within your illusion complex. The moment contains love. That is the lesson/goal of this illusion or density. The exercise is to consciously seek that love in awareness and understanding distortions. The first attempt is the cornerstone. Upon this choosing rests the remainder of the life-experience of an entity. The second seeking of love within the moment begins the addition. The third seeking powers the second, the fourth powering or doubling the third. As with the previous type of empowerment, there will be some loss of power due to flaws within the seeking in the distortion of insincerity. However, the conscious statement of self to self of the desire to seek love is so central an act of will that, as before, the loss of power due to this friction is inconsequential.

Exercise Two. The universe is one being. When a mind/body/spirit complex views another mind/body/spirit complex, see the Creator. This is an helpful exercise.

Exercise Three. Gaze within a mirror. See the Creator.

Exercise Four. Gaze at the creation which lies about the mind/body/spirit complex of each entity. See the Creator.

The foundation or prerequisite of these exercises is a predilection towards what may be called meditation, contemplation, or prayer. With this attitude, these exercises can be processed. Without it, the data will not sink down into the roots of the tree of mind, thus enabling and ennobling the body and touching the spirit.

https://www.lawofone.info/results.php?q=Poker

Quote:This game can only be won by those who lose their cards in the melting influence of love; can only be won by those who lay their pleasures, their limitations, their all upon the table face up and say inwardly: “All, all of you players, each other-self, whatever your hand, I love you.” This is the game: to know, to accept, to forgive, to balance, and to open the self in love.

What better way to "deal" with positives and negatives? All is one.

All is well, Infinite love and light.


RE: Dealing with the negative polarized - Bring4th_Austin - 02-21-2021

(02-21-2021, 02:01 AM)Raukura Waihaha Wrote: All is one and not all STS is about power over/under. Some people just prefer to be alone.

I do believe this perspective contains a fundamental misunderstanding of what we talk about in terms of "service to others" and "service to self" polarity according to how Ra describes them.

It is, of course, possible for every individual to have their own definitions and understandings of these concepts. If someone has a personal spiritual philosophy in which a "service to self" oriented individual possibly just "prefers to be alone," that is as valid of a philosophy as any.

But in an environment where we are specifically discussing and studying the Law of One, it's much more important to make sure that jargon is used in a proper way. And it is difficult for me to imagine any interpretation of the Law of One material in which a person who simply "prefers to be alone" is also considered to be "service to self." I don't think a preference for solitude really carries any innate implication of positive or negative polarity.

Ra explicates on the fundamental approach of the negative path in many places throughout the material, and the fundamental difference they describe between the two is a dichotomy of acceptance vs. control. This is both of self and of other-self. Unless a person is seeking solitude in order to refine and perfect the control of self in an isolated environment (and even then, with the ultimate goal of extending that control outwards unto others), then that is simply not polarizing STS as Ra describes it.

But, especially when examining the STS philosophy in relationship to other-selves, the simple preference to "be alone" is nowhere close to polarizing negatively. Ra describes STS individuals as attempting to control, manipulate, and enslave others. Their entire will would be bent upon the subjugation of those around them in more and more effective ways, and it's notable that the most effective ways would not be the most obvious ways. Lies and deception would naturally be a hallmark of this path.

So I think it's important to acknowledge that the jargon and semantics are important here. In a person's personal path, they might consider themselves to be "service to self," and have their own definition of what that means. And inherent in that definition is a simple preference to be alone, to improve the self, to focus on their individuality, etc. But when entering a space where "service to self" is defined quite specifically, it's important to acknowledge that the term means something more specific and implies certain intentions.


Quote:Having said that... I find it quite naive when STO people seem to feel like they're in the right, by trying to save STS or imply they'll get it eventually, like STS isn't part of the creator's plan and we aren't doing what we came here to do.
Most here choose the ironic path of excluding STS or acting like they're superior in their chosen perspective of all that is.

I do agree that there can be a certain naivety in STO individuals when it comes to both conceptualizing and relating to the STS path. Naivety tends to be a hallmark of the positive path.

The negative path is a valid path to the Creator. We all end up arriving at the same destination. I don't personally see anyone trying to "save" negative individuals, per se, but I do think that it's just innately difficult to grasp the negative viewpoint for a positive individual - thus attempting to rationalize it in some capacity that places their positive viewpoint as a more valid one.

But I do think that the idea of the positive path "excluding STS" is another misapprehension of polarity as Ra describes it. I suppose you could say that yes, the positive individual "excludes" the act of manipulating and controlling other individuals to their own will and desire. But I get the sense that's not what you mean. It's possible to "serve" the self as a positive individual, in the sense that you can improve yourself, focus on self-care, and honor your individuality. It's possible to "serve" the self by honoring a preference to be alone without stepping a single foot towards negative polarity.


Quote:I feel like the perception of STS is quite distorted, especially on these forums

I am wondering if this statement is made in awareness of the specifics of the STS path as Ra described it. I may be off base, but I get the sense that you have a generally positive personal philosophy that is more in line with STO rather than STS, as Ra defines them, but that you are applying a different definition. That could be very confusing to people who engage in discussion based on the specific jargon used by Ra. I think your points could use some clarity, if possible, perhaps with supporting quotes from the Law of One to help aid in mutual understanding.


RE: Dealing with the negative polarized - MrWho - 02-21-2021

There are four paths. Indifference, positive, negative and unity.

I believe Raukura Waihaha is of the latter. The "two dads" analogy requires a perspective that is higher than either.


RE: Dealing with the negative polarized - zedro - 02-21-2021

(02-21-2021, 11:07 AM)MrWho Wrote: Why not reach beyond polarity and rest within 6th density like Ra?

Because that may be a self-delusion tactic called spiritual bypassing. It's like saying "why go to kindergarten when you can just go to university?". Well, the University student would understand why.

One can spit out new age mantras or quote others words all they want, it doesn't mean one fully understand's any of it at a deep and meaningful level. That's why we incarnate to 3d, because there is no substitute for experience.


RE: Dealing with the negative polarized - MrWho - 02-21-2021

Again all paths are valid. It is not up to me to determine anything for my other-selves as you are suggesting I do. Merely a suggestion.

https://www.lawofone.info/s/18#5

Quote:Questioner: Thank you. I have a question here from Jim that I will read verbatim: “Much of the mystic tradition of seeking on Earth holds that belief that the individual self must be erased or obliterated and the material world ignored for an entity to reach ‘nirvana,’ as it’s called, or enlightenment. What is the proper role of the individual self and its worldly activities in aiding an entity to grow more into the Law of One?”

Ra: I am Ra. The proper role of the entity is in this density to experience all things desired, to then analyze, understand, and accept these experiences, distilling from them the love/light within them. Nothing shall be overcome. That which is not needed falls away.

The orientation develops due to analysis of desire. These desires become more and more distorted towards conscious application of love/light as the entity furnishes itself with distilled experience. We have found it to be inappropriate in the extreme to encourage the overcoming of any desires, except to suggest the imagination rather than the carrying out in the physical plane, as you call it, of those desires not consonant with the Law of One; this preserving the primal distortion of free will.

The reason it is unwise to overcome is that overcoming is an unbalanced action creating difficulties in balancing in the time/space continuum. Overcoming thus creates the further environment for holding onto that which apparently has been overcome.

All things are acceptable in the proper time for each entity, and in experiencing, in understanding, in accepting, in then sharing with other-selves, the appropriate description shall be moving away from distortions of one kind to distortions of another which may be more consonant with the Law of One.

It is, shall we say, a shortcut to simply ignore or overcome any desire. It must instead be understood and accepted. This takes patience and experience which can be analyzed with care, with compassion for self and for other-self.

In essence, yes I agree. It is not my desire to invite imbalance.