(08-24-2019, 03:19 AM)peregrine Wrote: You might use this time to search inside yourself and ask, "What do I truly love?"  This manner of seeking could be quite profitable.

Also, you might do the same but differentiating between what you would most dearly give love to from that which you would seek it from.

(08-23-2019, 06:32 PM)breakingties Wrote: I have a problem. Im not feeling love anymore, im just thinking it.I use to think "I love everything" or "I love my father", "I love my friend", etc. but when i check with my feeling state, i am numb. And also lately, i got 5th density vibes coming to me, everyone is so wise, and i am learning so many things, but when it comes to love, it is like i almost forgot how it feels.

Any advice ?

(08-24-2019, 05:55 AM)RitaJC Wrote:

(08-24-2019, 03:19 AM)peregrine Wrote: You might use this time to search inside yourself and ask, "What do I truly love?"  This manner of seeking could be quite profitable.

Also, you might do the same but differentiating between what you would most dearly give love to from that which you would seek it from.

I can't agree. My knowing right now is that love is what we ARE, no need to seek it from anything or anybody and it's impossible to determine "What do I truly love?" because love creates everything from itself and loves everything equally. What is excluding anybody or anything isn't love.

What @breakingties is speaking about is attachment in my current understanding. And, with spiritual maturity, we are getting liberated from that naturally.

(08-23-2019, 06:32 PM)breakingties Wrote: I have a problem. Im not feeling love anymore, im just thinking it.I use to think "I love everything" or "I love my father", "I love my friend", etc. but when i check with my feeling state, i am numb. And also lately, i got 5th density vibes coming to me, everyone is so wise, and i am learning so many things, but when it comes to love, it is like i almost forgot how it feels.

Any advice ?

(08-23-2019, 07:11 PM)ada Wrote: According to Ra, love is present in every moment. And the more you tune in or call for it the more it becomes. How love feels or what it is that you need to feel to know that it's love is probably complex and undefinable. Love could be any feeling that you have across your emotional/energy system. It could be the breeze of air that touches your cheek, or a certain melody that moves you, a smile or a nice comment to a stranger, the opening and sharing of the heart, the desire to reach out, serve, connect.

You say "anymore" and it makes me think you mean of a past emotion or state and compare that to your current state, I think you already have all the love that you could possibly want, but you're unaware, or have certain mental/energy blockages that don't allow love to fully flow or be felt undistorted.

My advice, if it resonates, would be to allow the time and space to ponder on these feelings and thoughts and to find acceptance.

(08-24-2019, 04:52 PM)Glow Wrote: Just adding to the above.

When I found someone I could go deeply with that is where my heart fully opened to universal love.

Like a key into a lock. To focus upon the love they brought out of me allowed my heart to bloom.
To me at least till then there was love/compassion for all but there wasn’t the warmth and depth of feeling for all. the key that opened the lock made it move to a new level I’d have not of reached otherwise.

Maybe each is different but focused love can certainly be love and unconditional even.

(08-25-2019, 07:28 AM)loostudent Wrote: A home where special loving feeling is spontaneous and also cultivated by simple gestures is important. Cultivated means it involves also some discipline (care, investment) to mantain. A step further is seeing all as one - that's compassion or universal love. It's always a free choice even (especially) when there are no feelings. In short: love is not just a feeling.

(08-24-2019, 05:55 AM)RitaJC Wrote:

(08-24-2019, 03:19 AM)peregrine Wrote: You might use this time to search inside yourself and ask, "What do I truly love?"  This manner of seeking could be quite profitable.

Also, you might do the same but differentiating between what you would most dearly give love to from that which you would seek it from.

I can't agree. My knowing right now is that love is what we ARE, no need to seek it from anything or anybody and it's impossible to determine "What do I truly love?" because love creates everything from itself and loves everything equally. What is excluding anybody or anything isn't love.

What @breakingties is speaking about is attachment in my current understanding. And, with spiritual maturity, we are getting liberated from that naturally.

(08-27-2019, 01:20 PM)kristina Wrote:

(08-24-2019, 05:55 AM)RitaJC Wrote:

(08-24-2019, 03:19 AM)peregrine Wrote: You might use this time to search inside yourself and ask, "What do I truly love?"  This manner of seeking could be quite profitable.

Also, you might do the same but differentiating between what you would most dearly give love to from that which you would seek it from.

I can't agree. My knowing right now is that love is what we ARE, no need to seek it from anything or anybody and it's impossible to determine "What do I truly love?" because love creates everything from itself and loves everything equally. What is excluding anybody or anything isn't love.

What @breakingties is speaking about is attachment in my current understanding. And, with spiritual maturity, we are getting liberated from that naturally.

I guess I understood Peregrine differently here. I think to focus, let's say, love upon my roses doesn't mean I don't love my wild geraniums. I love them both but I may focus my energy on the roses for a moment to ask myself why do I love them so much? As if I am exploring ideas, concepts, emotions, etc....human stuff. If I want to explore why I feel I cannot love, I may turn to an opposite which is something that I know I do love and try to understand from that perspective.
I also understand what you are saying Rita as love is self generating and needs nothing to explain it, to compare it, to feel it to seek it as it is already there without the seeking. However, I think when someone is feeling a certain way it deserves further investigation and attention.

(08-28-2019, 01:05 AM)RitaJC Wrote:

(08-27-2019, 01:20 PM)kristina Wrote:

(08-24-2019, 05:55 AM)RitaJC Wrote:

(08-24-2019, 03:19 AM)peregrine Wrote: You might use this time to search inside yourself and ask, "What do I truly love?"  This manner of seeking could be quite profitable.

Also, you might do the same but differentiating between what you would most dearly give love to from that which you would seek it from.

I can't agree. My knowing right now is that love is what we ARE, no need to seek it from anything or anybody and it's impossible to determine "What do I truly love?" because love creates everything from itself and loves everything equally. What is excluding anybody or anything isn't love.

What @breakingties is speaking about is attachment in my current understanding. And, with spiritual maturity, we are getting liberated from that naturally.

I guess I understood Peregrine differently here. I think to focus, let's say, love upon my roses doesn't mean I don't love my wild geraniums. I love them both but I may focus my energy on the roses for a moment to ask myself why do I love them so much? As if I am exploring ideas, concepts, emotions, etc....human stuff. If I want to explore why I feel I cannot love, I may turn to an opposite which is something that I know I do love and try to understand from that perspective.
I also understand what you are saying Rita as love is self generating and needs nothing to explain it, to compare it, to feel it to seek it as it is already there without the seeking. However, I think when someone is feeling a certain way it deserves further investigation and attention.

Sure. Only calling all kinds of different experiences "love" creates lots of confusion.

I'd distinguish between having a special emotional connection to something or someone, having a specific preference for a shorter or longer while etc. etc. Those are all parts of the human experience and absolutely legitimate.

By calling those love and seeing love as an emotion only clouds the truth about what love really is: the only true reality, the creative source of all experiences etc. etc.

But, as always, that's just how this entity sees it at the moment

(08-28-2019, 06:39 AM)kristina Wrote:

(08-28-2019, 01:05 AM)RitaJC Wrote:

(08-27-2019, 01:20 PM)kristina Wrote:

(08-24-2019, 05:55 AM)RitaJC Wrote:

(08-24-2019, 03:19 AM)peregrine Wrote: You might use this time to search inside yourself and ask, "What do I truly love?"  This manner of seeking could be quite profitable.

Also, you might do the same but differentiating between what you would most dearly give love to from that which you would seek it from.

I can't agree. My knowing right now is that love is what we ARE, no need to seek it from anything or anybody and it's impossible to determine "What do I truly love?" because love creates everything from itself and loves everything equally. What is excluding anybody or anything isn't love.

What @breakingties is speaking about is attachment in my current understanding. And, with spiritual maturity, we are getting liberated from that naturally.

I guess I understood Peregrine differently here. I think to focus, let's say, love upon my roses doesn't mean I don't love my wild geraniums. I love them both but I may focus my energy on the roses for a moment to ask myself why do I love them so much? As if I am exploring ideas, concepts, emotions, etc....human stuff. If I want to explore why I feel I cannot love, I may turn to an opposite which is something that I know I do love and try to understand from that perspective.
I also understand what you are saying Rita as love is self generating and needs nothing to explain it, to compare it, to feel it to seek it as it is already there without the seeking. However, I think when someone is feeling a certain way it deserves further investigation and attention.

Sure. Only calling all kinds of different experiences "love" creates lots of confusion.

I'd distinguish between having a special emotional connection to something or someone, having a specific preference for a shorter or longer while etc. etc. Those are all parts of the human experience and absolutely legitimate.

By calling those love and seeing love as an emotion only clouds the truth about what love really is: the only true reality, the creative source of all experiences etc. etc.

But, as always, that's just how this entity sees it at the moment

It seems fairly obvious to me that a lot of seekers of truth experience the question, what is love? You are absolutely correct in you understanding because it is mine too. This seeker may be experiencing the first stages of discovering that love isn't what it thought it was! I feel we have to go through "this" to get to "that". So, we first question ourselves and our intentions with other selves.

(08-28-2019, 03:34 PM)RitaJC Wrote:

(08-28-2019, 06:39 AM)kristina Wrote:

(08-28-2019, 01:05 AM)RitaJC Wrote:

(08-27-2019, 01:20 PM)kristina Wrote:

(08-24-2019, 05:55 AM)RitaJC Wrote: I can't agree. My knowing right now is that love is what we ARE, no need to seek it from anything or anybody and it's impossible to determine "What do I truly love?" because love creates everything from itself and loves everything equally. What is excluding anybody or anything isn't love.

What @breakingties is speaking about is attachment in my current understanding. And, with spiritual maturity, we are getting liberated from that naturally.

I guess I understood Peregrine differently here. I think to focus, let's say, love upon my roses doesn't mean I don't love my wild geraniums. I love them both but I may focus my energy on the roses for a moment to ask myself why do I love them so much? As if I am exploring ideas, concepts, emotions, etc....human stuff. If I want to explore why I feel I cannot love, I may turn to an opposite which is something that I know I do love and try to understand from that perspective.
I also understand what you are saying Rita as love is self generating and needs nothing to explain it, to compare it, to feel it to seek it as it is already there without the seeking. However, I think when someone is feeling a certain way it deserves further investigation and attention.

Sure. Only calling all kinds of different experiences "love" creates lots of confusion.

I'd distinguish between having a special emotional connection to something or someone, having a specific preference for a shorter or longer while etc. etc. Those are all parts of the human experience and absolutely legitimate.

By calling those love and seeing love as an emotion only clouds the truth about what love really is: the only true reality, the creative source of all experiences etc. etc.

But, as always, that's just how this entity sees it at the moment

It seems fairly obvious to me that a lot of seekers of truth experience the question, what is love? You are absolutely correct in you understanding because it is mine too. This seeker may be experiencing the first stages of discovering that love isn't what it thought it was! I feel we have to go through "this" to get to "that". So, we first question ourselves and our intentions with other selves.

What I meant by "this entity" is what others know as RitaJC

(08-30-2019, 08:36 AM)ttwagneriii Wrote: To me, the term Love comes with embedded misunderstanding, much like the term God.  The word itself is a closed concept and places an expectation that is is something to given, taken, and even achieved.  Emotional love, the serotonin drenched brain state is not the point.  Those chemicals come and go naturally.  Placing the expectation on yourself that they be present in maximum quantities at all times is unrealistic and will leave you feeling like a failure when your brain takes a much needed rest.

Acceptance and understanding is the point.  Can you accept what/who you are experiencing and understand that it TOO is a manifestation of the Infinite Creator?   Can you do this for yourself?  If you can work into your perception the acceptance and understanding that everything in your awareness is the point, then you will find your being in a present state of love.  

I think the real job for us here in 3D is acceptance because our faculty for understanding is severely limited.  For me, I can say I understand my perceptions, but I really think I'm saying I accept them as part of the creation and the Law of One.

A few quotes:

Ra, in 5.2 says "Each acceptance smoothes part of the many distortions that the faculty you call judgment engenders."

Ra 46.9 "Acceptance is the key to positively polarized use of catalyst."

Tao 10 says 'Can you bear heaven's children in all that you do and are?"  I love that one.

This is love.  For me, anyway.

Quote: Emotional love, the serotonin drenched brain state is not the point.  Those chemicals come and go naturally.

Quote:Placing the expectation on yourself that they be present in maximum quantities at all times is unrealistic and will leave you feeling like a failure when your brain takes a much needed rest.

Quote:64.20 ▶ Questioner: In the healing exercises, when you say examine the sensations of the body, do you mean those sensations available to the body via the five senses or in relation to the natural functions of the body such as touching, loving, sexual sharing, and company, or are you speaking of something else altogether?

Ra: I am Ra. The questioner may perceive its body complex at this moment. It is experiencing sensations. Most of these sensations or in this case, nearly all of them, are transient and without interest. However, the body is the creature of the mind. Certain sensations carry importance due to the charge or power which is felt by the mind upon the experience of this sensation.

For instance, at this space/time nexus one sensation is carrying a powerful charge and may be examined. This is the sensation of what you call the distortion towards discomfort due to the cramped position of the body complex during this working. In balancing you would then explore this sensation. Why is this sensation powerful? Because it was chosen in order that the entity might be of service to others in energizing this contact.

Each sensation that leaves the aftertaste of meaning upon the mind, that leaves the taste within the memory shall be examined. These are the sensations of which we speak.

Quote:93.11 ▶ Questioner: I would like, if possible, an example of the activity we call Catalyst of the Mind in a particular individual undergoing this process. Could Ra give an example of that?

Ra: I am Ra. All that assaults your senses is catalyst. We, in speaking to this support group through this instrument, offer catalyst. The configurations of each in the group of body offer catalyst through comfort/discomfort. In fact all that is unprocessed that has come before the notice of a mind/body/spirit complex is catalyst.

(08-30-2019, 09:37 AM)ttwagneriii Wrote: Oh believe me, I am a loud advocate for full engagement with 3D and you're right, its all part of the deal otherwise it wouldn't be there for us to experience.  And frankly, I am amazed by the subtle and exquisite tool kit the Logos has armed us with to have these experiences.  Serotonin is no exception.

My only point in that I used to get tripped up by my own definition of love.  It was too narrow and I felt like I was somehow doing it wrong if I didn't feel the same love for a stranger as I do for my wife or one of my kids.    By resetting my definition to acceptance and understanding, I didn't have the same conflict.