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The Spirit Complex and Nuclear Weapons - Infinite - 09-17-2019 I still don't understand what the spirit complex is. Here the definition of Ra: Quote:This spirit complex is the channel whereby the inpourings from all of the various universal, planetary, and personal inpourings may be funneled into the roots of consciousness and whereby consciousness may be funneled to the gateway of intelligent infinity through the balanced intelligent energy of body and mind.(30.2) Someone here knows some correspondence to spirit complex in the traditional esoteric teachings? *************** About the effect of nuclear weapons, I always read that our spirit/consciousness/atman (I suposse all this is the same thing) is immortal. But, reading again, seems to me that which occurs is not the disintegration of spirit, but the separation of the mind, body and spirit: Quote:Those who were destroyed, not by radiation, but by the trauma of the energy release, found not only the body/mind/spirit complex made unviable, but also a disarrangement of that unique vibratory complex you have called the spirit complex, which we understand as a mind/body/spirit complex, to be completely disarranged without possibility of re-integration. This would be the loss to the Creator of part of the Creator and thus we were given permission, not to stop the events, but to ensure the survival of the, shall we say, disembodied mind/body/spirit complex. This we did in those events which you mention, losing no spirit or portion or holograph or microcosm of the macrocosmic Infinite One.(26.23) And here, stretchs of Q'uo and Latwii about the subject: Quote:I am Q’uo, and we might respond by suggesting that there is the release of energy of such a nature within the process of detonation of one of your nuclear weapons that not only does the physical material of your illusion suffer great disfiguration, but it is possible that the mind/body/spirit complex which might be referred to as the soul, if you will, can also undergo a type of disintegration if there is not the immediate aid of those able to harness this released energy and other energies for the preservation of the integrity of the mind/body/spirit complex. Source: https://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/1986/1986_1005.aspx Quote:S: I have a question concerning nuclear explosions. What happens to an entity that is caught in one of these? Source: https://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/1982/1982_0507.aspx After all, if all this space/time is an illusion, how can a something physical cause the infeasibility of an entity? I really don't understand. RE: The Spirit Complex and Nuclear Weapons - Glow - 09-17-2019 It seems they are explaining an entity as the mix of personal/planetary and various universal energies. So if a conglomeration of energies was separated into its parts due to this more powerful nuclear energy it seems it could not be reconstructed because that passage of time where the energies that acted upon it has passed. I’m thinking astrological energies and the experiences of the entities lives could not be rewoven as they had been. Though all time being now I am not sure how there isn’t a big “save” feature but perhaps that is how those of Ra were allowed to interfere by “saving before” they were reduced to its parts. The part that bothers me more and might just be semantics is where they liken the mind/bod/spirit complex to a soul. The soul I reach back to has so many experiences contained as m/b/s that I actually do not think of this me as a soul at all but the experience of a soul or an extension of a soul into the body. Interesting RE: The Spirit Complex and Nuclear Weapons - Highrculling - 09-19-2019 “how can a something physical cause the infeasibility of an entity? “ We kind of know that our sun is doing fusion, and it has both physical and metaphysical aspects.. A nuclear device could either be fusion or fission, so I guess it also has both physical and metaphysical influences.. RE: The Spirit Complex and Nuclear Weapons - AnthroHeart - 09-19-2019 Even orgonite generates scalar waves and that's metaphysical. Though that is beneficial. RE: The Spirit Complex and Nuclear Weapons - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-19-2019 (09-19-2019, 01:08 PM)Highrculling Wrote: “how can a something physical cause the infeasibility of an entity? “ Ou "guess"? Ra outright stated as such. RE: The Spirit Complex and Nuclear Weapons - EvolvingPhoenix - 09-19-2019 (09-17-2019, 05:03 PM)Glow Wrote: It seems they are explaining an entity as the mix of personal/planetary and various universal energies. So if a conglomeration of energies was separated into its parts due to this more powerful nuclear energy it seems it could not be reconstructed because that passage of time where the energies that acted upon it has passed. There's what you think of as a soul and what Ra explicitly refers to as a soul. If the 2 are inconsistent, Ra is likely the one who is closer to correct. RE: The Spirit Complex and Nuclear Weapons - Glow - 09-19-2019 It was actually Q uo which isn’t an unconscious channel so to me not as infallible as Ra. Also Quo on further reading states it as “what you would call a soul” implying it is only by our common terms little i is the soul. Most people do consider little i there soul but once you identify with a smc you realize a larger portion of self. I onreread see they were not defining soul just using the definition most have on the planet thinking little i is them. RE: The Spirit Complex and Nuclear Weapons - Loki - 09-20-2019 Ra explains that things that happen inside space/time impact and distort Intelligent energy that creates space/time (see the pyramid effect example). Our mind/body/spirit complex is part Intelligent Energy part Infinite Intelligence from Ra point of view. The mind/body/spirit complex is emerged in this illusion locked in the physical body vessel for incarnation duration. Just imagine how strong of a distortion you will feel on your mind/body/spirit complex beyond space/time when your vessel is disintegrated by a nuclear explosion in space/time. Just imagine how strong of a distortion will cause a nuclear explosion in space/time on Intelligent Energy field creating space/time. RE: The Spirit Complex and Nuclear Weapons - flofrog - 09-20-2019 I see this too as Loki does, if I understood you right Loki. I see the fission in space/time. The soul in time/space would seem to me kept in its integrity since after all there is no real separation between the soul and Creator Infinite, in traditional esoteric teachings, I think I would see the spirit complex as the Atman in The Hindu tradition RE: The Spirit Complex and Nuclear Weapons - Loki - 09-20-2019 I will try to to explain my understanding on this quote from Ra: Those who were destroyed, not by radiation, but by the trauma of the energy release, found not only the body/mind/spirit complex made unviable, In this first part Ra is referring at the fact that the ones destroyed by trauma of nuclear explosion died on Earth BUT: but also a disarrangement of that unique vibratory complex you have called the spirit complex, their complex become disintegrated in three separate part mind complex, body complex, and spirit complex. We humans call the mind/body/spirit complex simply spirit because we think from the space/time illusion point of view where our physical vessel is the very important part which is the home of the soul. From Ra we know that physical vessel is home for mind/body/spirit complex. In other words what Ra calls mind/body/spirit complex we call spirit. which we understand as a mind/body/spirit complex, to be completely disarranged without possibility of re-integration. In this last part Ra is saying I believe that disarrangement of that unique vibratory complex is understood at his level as mind/body/spirit complex, to be completely disarranged without possibility of re-integration RE: The Spirit Complex and Nuclear Weapons - ada - 09-20-2019 It makes sense that they refer to it as "trauma of the energy release", trauma, in my understanding could be likened to an injury. And "disarrangement of that unique vibratory complex". And also "disintegration, or an unbinding, shall we say, of mind, of body and of spirit" Quote:Definition of disintegration: Quote:Definition of trauma In my understanding, then, healing of such trauma, rearrangement, or reintegration is just as much possible. To think that there are beings infinity loving that would give it their all to serve and heal other-selves from such an experience. Quote:10.1 ▶ Questioner: I think it would clarify things for us to go back to the time just before the transfer of souls from Maldek; see how the Law of One operated with respect to this transfer and why this was necessary. What happened to Maldek— or the people on Maldek to cause them to lose their planet? How long ago did this occur? --- I then imagine that when the mind/body/spirit are aligned they act as a 'channel', a 'shuttle' or an 'image' of the Creator within, the channel can be asleep, not aware, conscious or aligned, but the Creator is omnipresent and all that there is. RE: The Spirit Complex and Nuclear Weapons - Infinite - 09-22-2019 (09-17-2019, 02:18 PM)Infinite Wrote: Someone here knows some correspondence to spirit complex in the traditional esoteric teachings? I'm making a search, perhaps which Ra calls "spirit" is the same as "atman" in many esoteric sources of Earth. But all the sources says atman is immortal and eternal. Seems to me atman is each one of us as a hologram of the Creator, our essence. I still not found a answer of Ra which indicates that the spirit is this. ----EDIT---- Ra used the term as a hologram of Creator as can be seen in the itself answer I quoted on my first post: Quote:Those who were destroyed, not by radiation, but by the trauma of the energy release, found not only the body/mind/spirit complex made unviable, but also a disarrangement of that unique vibratory complex you have called the spirit complex, which we understand as a mind/body/spirit complex, to be completely disarranged without possibility of re-integration. This would be the loss to the Creator of part of the Creator and thus we were given permission, not to stop the events, but to ensure the survival of the, shall we say, disembodied mind/body/spirit complex. This we did in those events which you mention, losing no spirit or portion or holograph or microcosm of the macrocosmic Infinite One.(26.23) And here answers of Q'uo: Quote:Questioner: Yeah, I’d like to know if there’s a relationship between what we call spirit and what we call consciousness. Source: https://llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/1997/1997_0803.aspx |