(05-13-2020, 06:32 PM)Great Central Sun Wrote: My teacher says that Covid-19 is a worldwide Kundalini Awakening.
The world is surprisingly calm.

(05-13-2020, 06:30 PM)freestonew Wrote: hi all.

I have a simple Question.  why covid-19?   I mean, by this question, not political or conspiracy ideas.  I would just like to know what the Ra people, and the channeling entities, think about this Virus and why did it appear for mankind at this time.  What is its spiritual meaning, in other words.

thanks...freestone

Quote:I am Latwii, and am aware of your query, my sister. These second-density creatures, the bacteria and virae, are those entities which provide a service to the host third-density entity by, shall we say, taking that catalyst which has not been well used by the mind or spirit complexes and allowing it to take its symbolic form when needed within the physical vehicle in what you call the form of a disease of one nature or another which may then be noticed by the entity in a manner which it had not noticed before when the catalyst was available only to the mind and spirit complexes. When there is what you call a healing, whether by the use of that [which] you have called medicine and the antibiotics, or by any other means, this healing occurs when the entity has been able to process the catalyst to such an extent that the disease is no longer necessary to point out that which was not observed and well used before.

(05-13-2020, 10:06 PM)unity100 Wrote: In the larger spiritual sense this pandemic situation is showing the human society that cooperation, collaboration and solidarity are important. And to survive and prosper, societies must help everyone inside a society. That privatization of healthcare for profit is bad. That privatization of entire economy and pushing majority to work for dimes or starve is bad. That greed cannot be maintained. That a few percent greedy sociopaths can destroy entire societies.

Typical lessons of the last 100 years which many people ignored out of their own selfish inclinations.

(05-13-2020, 10:35 PM)Navaratna Wrote: Whether any being thinks I deserve it as a product of me needing it as a catalyst, or if it's karma, or if it's a bioweapon.

Wearing large amounts of copper/brass and silver to absorb the ions
holding azurite to absorb the copper ions in my blood

among other preventative measures like daily drinks of lemon balm...
Are enough to make me think I'll spare all the bullshit of getting sick for a single day with it, and kill it with my own info instead of waiting around to get sick like most people. This is considering you could already have it...and be asymptomatic, so should be taking preventative measures to kill it before it takes hold.

I will consider Latwii/Ra/Seth as for the reasons why it's manifesting but I'm not going to accept getting it and meditating it away.

(05-14-2020, 03:29 AM)Ozziwtf Wrote: I think that what ends up surfacing in mainstream media is a collection of thoughts (of masses). Since we are talking about mainstream, it is logical to assume that a large group of people think this way. Of course there are twists and turns to it, say, a thought that one would classify as radical left, is said by a known radical right politician (but this is probably something along negatively polarizing agendas, so it's out of our interest anyway). The nuances of this elude me, but I am more and more convinced that you can take everything you see in TV apart and you will discover those thoughts separately in people around you too (since these ideas are popular, you will most likely find someone believing one of them).
So, COVID-19 is a mix of fear-porn, lazyness, thirst for something new, fear of a recession, hating ones job, and so on. I think you get what I'm saying.

(05-14-2020, 03:42 AM)Navaratna Wrote: I do but I am also curious why seemingly intelligent people like doctors and nurses don't know from the start about oligodynamics
Using paper masks rather than recommending copper mesh protective equipment. Baffles me.

It's easy to think the local news station wants attention and ratings, and isn't run by some scientists.

..but the fact that #oligodynamics hasn't trended astonishes me. I have tried to inform people but this isn't exactly exciting information. Maybe a part of it is people can't imagine it could be so simple and many medical companies have prescriptions as a part of their business model so promote misinformation about things that prevent diseases or simply don't speak of them.

(05-14-2020, 04:13 AM)Ozziwtf Wrote:

(05-14-2020, 03:42 AM)Navaratna Wrote: I do but I am also curious why seemingly intelligent people like doctors and nurses don't know from the start about oligodynamics
Using paper masks rather than recommending copper mesh protective equipment. Baffles me.

It's easy to think the local news station wants attention and ratings, and isn't run by some scientists.

..but the fact that #oligodynamics hasn't trended astonishes me. I have tried to inform people but this isn't exactly exciting information. Maybe a part of it is people can't imagine it could be so simple and many medical companies have prescriptions as a part of their business model so promote misinformation about things that prevent diseases or simply don't speak of them.

Because that wouldn't be a reality about where we experience our fears and wishes but where Navaratna found the cure, oligodynamics saves lifes and in general, not what goes through our minds most of the day.

freestonew Wrote:hi all.

I have a simple Question.  why covid-19?   I mean, by this question, not political or conspiracy ideas.  I would just like to know what the Ra people, and the channeling entities, think about this Virus and why did it appear for mankind at this time.  What is its spiritual meaning, in other words.

thanks...freestone

(05-13-2020, 10:19 PM)Diana Wrote: There is a quote from Ra which I can't locate, but Ra says, and I paraphrase, that viruses offer themselves as catalyst; and if the catalyst isn't needed, a person won't become ill.

Quote:34.7 Questioner: Do what we call contagious diseases play any part in this process with respect to the unmanifested self?

Ra: I am Ra. These so-called contagious diseases are those entities of second density which offer an opportunity for this type of catalyst. If this catalyst is unneeded, then these second-density creatures, as you would call them, do not have an effect. In each of these generalizations you may please note that there are anomalies so that we cannot speak to every circumstance but only to the general run or way of things as you experience them.

(05-13-2020, 10:35 PM)Diana Wrote:

(05-13-2020, 10:06 PM)unity100 Wrote: In the larger spiritual sense this pandemic situation is showing the human society that cooperation, collaboration and solidarity are important. And to survive and prosper, societies must help everyone inside a society. That privatization of healthcare for profit is bad. That privatization of entire economy and pushing majority to work for dimes or starve is bad. That greed cannot be maintained. That a few percent greedy sociopaths can destroy entire societies.

Typical lessons of the last 100 years which many people ignored out of their own selfish inclinations.

It would be nice if showing human society the above would sink in and actually make a difference, but I'm dubious. It's also interesting that the U.S has the most amount of cases, if the numbers are to believed.  

(05-14-2020, 08:02 AM)Jeremy Wrote: Even though this is a collective experience, the catalyst involved is very much personal. If acknowledged, accepted, and processed, it very well could light that spark within one's self to what one has been ignoring for quite some time. It could be one of many last pushes of civilization towards waking ones self up to its spiritual nature. Finally getting one to ask the important questions. Taking a step back from the mundane and truly beginning to see the meaning of one's life. At least, that's my hope during all of the sadness and despair currently infecting the world.

(05-14-2020, 10:12 AM)peregrine Wrote:

freestonew Wrote:hi all.

I have a simple Question. why covid-19? I mean, by this question, not political or conspiracy ideas. I would just like to know what the Ra people, and the channeling entities, think about this Virus and why did it appear for mankind at this time. What is its spiritual meaning, in other words.

thanks...freestone

Thank you, W, for asking directly about the spiritual meaning of life directly. Personally, I find the question refreshing in the context of these forums and I hope you find some further roads to travel in your search for your own understanding of how to view the horizons which your query gestures towards. Naturally, I can only offer you my own view on the topic. I hope it is of some little use to you in your travels.

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(05-14-2020, 02:52 PM)Asolsutsesvyl Wrote:

(05-14-2020, 10:12 AM)peregrine Wrote:

freestonew Wrote:hi all.

I have a simple Question.  why covid-19?   I mean, by this question, not political or conspiracy ideas.  I would just like to know what the Ra people, and the channeling entities, think about this Virus and why did it appear for mankind at this time.  What is its spiritual meaning, in other words.

thanks...freestone

Thank you, W, for asking directly about the spiritual meaning of life directly.  Personally, I find the question refreshing in the context of these forums and I hope you find some further roads to travel in your search for your own understanding of how to view the horizons which your query gestures towards.  Naturally, I can only offer you my own view on the topic.  I hope it is of some little use to you in your travels.

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Humanity has never grown up. It has never become able to develop a consistent and coherent way of morally reasoning and evaluating things. It has not become able to organize societies in a way which favors larger aims and interests separate from money/status/power systematically. The most basic things which would make for a "sane collective life" are completely missing, or almost completely. It looks like dumb luck keeps things going as well as they still manage to keep going.

(05-14-2020, 04:20 PM)peregrine Wrote:  
So, you guys with the bruised chests.  Most of us (I'm guessing) are already aware that this poor planet has been stumbling its way through 3D and is suffering significantly for all its missteps.  The question here--on a forum nominally concerned with spiritual matters--the question here is, what are the spiritual principles involved?

Where would that discussion begin?
 
 

(05-14-2020, 04:20 PM)peregrine Wrote: So, you guys with the bruised chests. Most of us (I'm guessing) are already aware that this poor planet has been stumbling its way through 3D and is suffering significantly for all its missteps. The question here--on a forum nominally concerned with spiritual matters--the question here is, what are the spiritual principles involved?

Where would that discussion begin?

(05-14-2020, 05:31 PM)Asolsutsesvyl Wrote:

(05-14-2020, 04:20 PM)peregrine Wrote: So, you guys with the bruised chests.  Most of us (I'm guessing) are already aware that this poor planet has been stumbling its way through 3D and is suffering significantly for all its missteps.  The question here--on a forum nominally concerned with spiritual matters--the question here is, what are the spiritual principles involved?

Where would that discussion begin?

Personally, I would make the first principle the idea that "s*** happens". Indeed, the Law of One and related material claims that the Universe has been designed for the greatest possible variation in experience, or in other words, the greatest possible variation in what happens. Logically, this means that the Universe was designed to make it so that s*** happens, along with all the rest happening.

Then the question becomes, when is it avoided? Because it simply happens unless specifically avoided. Well, it is avoided when prevented. Prevention means that something in an environment, things active in it and/or how they interact, limit the range of outcomes. Larger-scale or more general chaos is counteracted, to the extent that that happens, through smaller-scale or more specific order.

If you reason like this, then spiritual considerations begin to look very similar to engineering in the abstract, or systems thinking. I already mentioned that basically, humanity is not up to the task of taking care of itself. But it is expected to, and so bad things simply happen from time to time unless/until humanity progresses to the point of being up to the task of preventing it from happening. When a species remains unable to reach that point, an extinction event could eventually result, and some grand soul-level version of having to "start over".

Significantly, I think that a functional order, which would prevent bad stuff from happening by accident, could be either positive or negative. The Universe doesn't care; whatever fits the functional constraints receives the blessing of "good results". Good results could come from a more gentle and harmonious flow, where greater consciousness is used to navigate smoothly through the collective journey - or from a negative counterpart to that.

(05-13-2020, 06:30 PM)freestonew Wrote: hi all.

I have a simple Question.  why covid-19?   I mean, by this question, not political or conspiracy ideas.  I would just like to know what the Ra people, and the channeling entities, think about this Virus and why did it appear for mankind at this time.  What is its spiritual meaning, in other words.

thanks...freestone