(07-18-2020, 10:27 PM)ada Wrote: That's the beauty of free will.    
But such thoughts, imo, aren't healthy for the mind.

(07-18-2020, 10:43 PM)Raukura Waihaha Wrote:

(07-18-2020, 10:27 PM)ada Wrote: That's the beauty of free will.    
But such thoughts, imo, aren't healthy for the mind.

I'm interested to know what's unhealthy about putting ideas out there and searching for clarity?

(07-19-2020, 12:45 AM)ada Wrote:

(07-18-2020, 10:43 PM)Raukura Waihaha Wrote:

(07-18-2020, 10:27 PM)ada Wrote: That's the beauty of free will.    
But such thoughts, imo, aren't healthy for the mind.

I'm interested to know what's unhealthy about putting ideas out there and searching for clarity?

Well, that depends on the person I'd guess. Just in general, the specificity isn't of great importance. One can indulge and worry and find exactly what worries them to no end. There's just no pinpoint understanding to be found.
In the unveiled metaphysical realm, if all can be seen as one, then anyone can be seen as anything. Just as the occurence where those of Yahweh we're replaced by other beings whom called themselves the same but had different workings. It's just my opinion of course, I don't know better than anyone. But I've seen what this does to people, myself included. And some weaker minds can lose trust in the world around them quite easily so, that is why I suggested it's unhealthy. We are free to explore whatever our will, but we have to be aware of how it affects others too.

(07-19-2020, 05:34 AM)LukeM7 Wrote: Well my question is why would the Ra social memory complex try to purposely make the pyramids and its shafts align with some constellations and stars? Any alignments would be of a transient nature due to factors such as the Earth’s degree of axial tilt (which changes over the course of the year), along with the Earth's spin on its axis, and so forth. I'm sure they would align up at certain points in time, but it's only a transient alignment.

(07-19-2020, 09:06 AM)Great Central Sun Wrote:

(07-19-2020, 05:34 AM)LukeM7 Wrote: Well my question is why would the Ra social memory complex try to purposely make the pyramids and its shafts align with some constellations and stars? Any alignments would be of a transient nature due to factors such as the Earth’s degree of axial tilt (which changes over the course of the year), along with the Earth's spin on its axis, and so forth. I'm sure they would align up at certain points in time, but it's only a transient alignment.

They have said the time of the pyramids is past and that they play the tune now so poorly. So they probably knew they would be temporary.

(07-18-2020, 01:01 PM)dexter101 Wrote: i think it is well known that the orion empire resides there. as the name suggests
i really hope someone could clear that up.

Quote:...Consequently, there was an inborn tendency towards aggression which had only been encouraged by the second wave of genetic manipulation. This set the stage for entities we shall grandly call the space pirates. The space pirates were, in these entities’ way of describing them, from the fifth density, and they had many minions from the fourth density, but these densities being in the negative sense a very pure path along the path of service to self.

It was discovered that if these entities used those with a hunger for power to encourage and hone their appetite for power and domination, these entities in turn would do their best, through the processes of aggression and war, to conquer and control that which was seen as desirable, whether it be geography, position, money or power. And these entities found, perhaps due to the limitations of your human imagination, perhaps due to the limitations of imagination of fourth-density minions, that their greatest tool was the very blunt instrument of war and consequently, when the forces that learned their trade within the culture that this instrument calls Atlantis, whenever these entities show up their plan is always to encourage division, strife and, if possible at all, the largest war available.

For this in turn [subverts] the energies of youth and maturity towards the entrainment of conscious thought processes until entities moved into that space within their minds where they believe and accept as true the necessity of war, the rightness of the native land’s authority figures, and the real and genuine desire to make the world a better place through rearranging the geography, the people (inaudible) power in a way which keeps those in power in even more power and simply enslaves the attitudes of the minds of all of those who follow them into furnishing the physical vehicles that march off to the war, and by their dying, their suffering, and their injustice thereby spread the suffering, the pain, and those other negative emotions ever higher, evermore violently, ever at a greater level.

The goal of these space pirates is simply to achieve a (inaudible) so that third-density cycles come and third-density cycles go and there is either a very small harvest or no harvest at all, most of the harvest, therefore, being that which this instrument might call spent energy or entropy, except that it has to do with the burden of sorrow, grief, suffering and pain of those who have not made the harvest.

This began to cycle in Atlantis and has moved through its complete cycle at this time. In all three cycles, then, there has been almost no harvest and as your peoples approach the end of this present cycle of time, which is the final opportunity for harvest within this particular planetary third density, the energies of Atlantis remain. There had been incarnations of groups of entities which first did the bidding of these space pirates in Atlantis. Not yet once, but as the gazing eye looks at history this group can be found again and again. Within those of Babylonia, within those of Rome, within those of Germany, within those of Germany once again, and now within that which is the United States.

These energies have grouped, gathered and arisen as a natural event, since graduation is at hand and these entities are attempting to graduate in service to self. Consequently, once again millions and millions of earth natives who are otherwise very close to being harvested have been entrained in their minds and in their thinking by the discussion of subjects that lead the mind to war and to the just reasons for it, thereby once again placing these millions of entities in the uncomfortable space of being dimly aware that their true freedom is being taken from them, but truly having no real capacity to figure out what is going on and why there is no rest or peace for them...

(07-22-2020, 12:09 AM)flow Wrote: dexter, perhaps it is an example of STS; nfluence. just like orion empire "hijacked" jewish people by corrupting Moses, i assume they did the same with pyramids by adding 2 others to make an orion pattern. i wonder why this question hasn't been covered in Ra material. perhaps it was and we just missed it? either way, we have to remember that STS presence is ancient and very powerful.

Quote:...Consequently, there was an inborn tendency towards aggression which had only been encouraged by the second wave of genetic manipulation. This set the stage for entities we shall grandly call the space pirates. The space pirates were, in these entities’ way of describing them, from the fifth density, and they had many minions from the fourth density, but these densities being in the negative sense a very pure path along the path of service to self.

It was discovered that if these entities used those with a hunger for power to encourage and hone their appetite for power and domination, these entities in turn would do their best, through the processes of aggression and war, to conquer and control that which was seen as desirable, whether it be geography, position, money or power. And these entities found, perhaps due to the limitations of your human imagination, perhaps due to the limitations of imagination of fourth-density minions, that their greatest tool was the very blunt instrument of war and consequently, when the forces that learned their trade within the culture that this instrument calls Atlantis, whenever these entities show up their plan is always to encourage division, strife and, if possible at all, the largest war available.

For this in turn [subverts] the energies of youth and maturity towards the entrainment of conscious thought processes until entities moved into that space within their minds where they believe and accept as true the necessity of war, the rightness of the native land’s authority figures, and the real and genuine desire to make the world a better place through rearranging the geography, the people (inaudible) power in a way which keeps those in power in even more power and simply enslaves the attitudes of the minds of all of those who follow them into furnishing the physical vehicles that march off to the war, and by their dying, their suffering, and their injustice thereby spread the suffering, the pain, and those other negative emotions ever higher, evermore violently, ever at a greater level.

The goal of these space pirates is simply to achieve a (inaudible) so that third-density cycles come and third-density cycles go and there is either a very small harvest or no harvest at all, most of the harvest, therefore, being that which this instrument might call spent energy or entropy, except that it has to do with the burden of sorrow, grief, suffering and pain of those who have not made the harvest.

This began to cycle in Atlantis and has moved through its complete cycle at this time. In all three cycles, then, there has been almost no harvest and as your peoples approach the end of this present cycle of time, which is the final opportunity for harvest within this particular planetary third density, the energies of Atlantis remain. There had been incarnations of groups of entities which first did the bidding of these space pirates in Atlantis. Not yet once, but as the gazing eye looks at history this group can be found again and again. Within those of Babylonia, within those of Rome, within those of Germany, within those of Germany once again, and now within that which is the United States.

These energies have grouped, gathered and arisen as a natural event, since graduation is at hand and these entities are attempting to graduate in service to self. Consequently, once again millions and millions of earth natives who are otherwise very close to being harvested have been entrained in their minds and in their thinking by the discussion of subjects that lead the mind to war and to the just reasons for it, thereby once again placing these millions of entities in the uncomfortable space of being dimly aware that their true freedom is being taken from them, but truly having no real capacity to figure out what is going on and why there is no rest or peace for them...

(07-22-2020, 04:42 AM)flow Wrote: yep, it's Q'uo quote. Feb 6, 2003.

https://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/2003/2003_0206.aspx

(07-22-2020, 01:12 PM)Black Dragon Wrote:

(07-22-2020, 04:42 AM)flow Wrote: yep, it's Q'uo quote. Feb 6, 2003.

https://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/2003/2003_0206.aspx

Thanks for the link. It's funny because I've used the terminology before discussing such things here and there with people. I've said things like "My theory is that the god of the old testament is nothing more than some douchebag space pirate", which is more or less true.

(07-18-2020, 01:21 PM)Spaced Wrote: ...

Edit: Ra also only claims to have erected the great pyramid, not the others

(07-22-2020, 04:42 AM)flow Wrote: yep, it's Q'uo quote. Feb 6, 2003.

https://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/2003/2003_0206.aspx

Quote:Among these are critiques from two astronomers, Ed Krupp of Griffith Observatory in Los Angeles and Tony Fairall of the University of Cape Town, South Africa. Using planetarium equipment, Krupp and Fairall independently investigated the angle between the alignment of Orion's Belt and north during the era cited by Hancock, Bauval, et al. (which differs from the angle seen today or in the third millennium BC, because of the precession of the equinoxes). They found that the angle was somewhat different from the "perfect match" thought to exist by Bauval and Hancock in the Orion correlation theory. They estimate 47–50 degrees per the planetarium measurements, compared to the 38-degree angle formed by the pyramids.[13]

Krupp pointed out that the slightly bent line formed by the three pyramids was deviated towards the north, whereas the slight "kink" in the line of Orion's Belt was deformed to the south, and to match them up one or the other of them had to be turned upside-down.[14] Indeed, this is what was done in the original book by Bauval and Gilbert (The Orion Mystery),[15] which compares images of the pyramids and Orion without revealing that the pyramids’ map had been inverted.[16]