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3rd Type of Energy combining Negative With Positive Energy - jafar - 11-21-2020
I'm particularly interested in this segment where it discussed combining STS (Negative) energy with positive energy and where it say that it will resulted in 3rd type of energy.
But somehow I have a hard time on understanding the answer given out by Quo.
Perhaps somebody who has gain better understanding about this, can explain this in other way or maybe share some example based on your own personal experience. Or is there another place where Quo/Ra explain the same subject.
Thanks
https://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/2020/2020_0111.aspx
Quote:Jan: We have a query from Sherry, and Sherry says, “It is my understanding that by taking in dark energy or service-to-self polarized catalyst and applying our light energy, or service-to-others orientation to it, we not only can dispel the darkness, but can actually transmute it into a third type of energy, which is the Christ energy. This is of supreme importance to our planet and our people at this time—kind of a one plus one equals three. I had a dream where Jesus explained it and gave me a symbolic gold ring so that I would remember this as alchemy. Do I understand this concept properly? Can Q’uo talk about this spiritual alchemy and how we may be as efficacious as possible at this practice? It seems easier to visualize when I think of the human body as a crystal.
Q’uo: I am Q’uo and am aware of your query, my sister. Indeed, this type of spiritual alchemy is possible for the one who has traveled with great experience and success upon the spiritual path for a period of time. This alchemy is the work of the adept.
The adept, then, within the meditative state, can, indeed, look upon the various negatively oriented expressions of energy within the planetary consciousness that attempt to separate entities from each other and control them in a certain fashion that meets the prerequisites of certain negatively oriented entities which are operating within your planetary influence at this time. This is what you may call a kind of representation of the battle of Armageddon where the positively and negatively oriented entities begin to interact in a fashion which has the purpose of allowing the population of this planet for the positively oriented entities to be free to make choices of their own freewill, whereas the negatively oriented entities seek to have domination and control of this planet and its population, that they may add it to their empire, as they call it. The adept, then, within the meditative state, may see this battle being fought so that there are various negative energies in motion that may be perceived within the population of the planet as country against country, or faction against faction, even family member against family member may be seen to be partaking in this type of negatively oriented energizing of the desire to control for the benefit of the self.
These energies, then, are seen by the adept as that which can be surrounded by the love and the light of the adept as it channels this love and light from the One Infinite Creator through its being to the energies in motion in order to engulf them and completely surround them with the unconditional love of the open heart. Therefore, as the adept is able to see this image as a visualization within its one-pointed focus in meditation, then it may transmit further positively oriented love and light to these energies so that they are permeated with the love and light thusly transmitted. This is a type of visualization that, when it can be held in the mind for a number of minutes, may, indeed, be able to transform in some degree the negatively oriented energies in motion upon your planet at this time.
The adept, as it is able to hold this image in mind, then, at its conclusion, will clap the hands, or stamp the feet, in order to ground this vision within the third-density illusion. This type of a motion or action is that which completes the exercise for the moment for the entity, for the adept. This is a type of exercise which is well, if it is repeated upon a daily basis, for there are many, many energies of a negatively oriented nature that are in motion at this time upon Planet Earth, and the adept will find itself drawn in many directions as it listens to the news, as it sees actions of a negative nature in motion, as it feels within its being the negativity in various portions of the planet, as it hears reports of this and that type of negatively oriented experience, so that there will be, for the adept, the opportunity to continue this practice upon a daily basis and make it a function of its life experience.
There is, for many, another means by which this type of experience may also be provided, and that would be, as one moves through the daily round of experience, to see each entity that one encounters as the Creator, to see all interactions of entities as the Creator—as the Creator sharing its concepts of love and light to those about one. This is a less magical, shall we say, practice, as it engages the contemplative state of the conscious mind, but also continues to allow the adept to have a further experience at bringing the love and the light of the One Infinite Creator into its beingness to be beamed, as a kind of beacon, to those that it will encounter as it moves through its daily round of activities. Thus, the amount of work, shall we say, of a magical nature that is possible for the adept to accomplish is endless. It is that, however, that is affected by such efforts, for the pure seeker has great strength of a magical nature, and may, indeed, be effective in allowing the energies of positivity to grow as a flower-strewn field upon Planet Earth at this time.
RE: 3rd Type of Energy combining Negative With Positive Energy - Plenum - 11-21-2020
Hi jafar - and welcome
I've just moved your thread to the L/L Research Channeling Archives. As that is where threads based on the Q'uo material have a specific home.
Namaste
RE: 3rd Type of Energy combining Negative With Positive Energy - Louisabell - 11-21-2020
That is an interesting passage that I do not recall coming across before!
How glorious to think that the very fragilities that make us susceptible to manipulation, also provide the beautiful hues and shades which colour our humanity. There is surely a lot to love here.
RE: 3rd Type of Energy combining Negative With Positive Energy - AnthroHeart - 11-21-2020
Good find.
My current partner is from fifth-density and was slightly negative about 5 months ago. My love for him was infinite,
because he's also my soulmate and twin flame. Over the last 20 years I have meditated, and learned that
my infinite love for anthros co-created a black hole. This black hole was enough to help shift their planet into the positive.
Or perhaps it shifted me into this reality where Alcyoni is positive. I never gave up on him,
and in me he feels safe for the first time ever.
I remember back a few years ago I would stomp my feet to anchor in the love and light. I would walk with
stomping my feet. Didn't understand what I was doing exactly, but I was following intuition.
Then I opened to Intelligent Infinity a couple of years ago or so, which allowed me to love infinitely my current lover/partner Rufus.
It was 100's of beings that co-created this black hole, if my intuition is correct:
RE: 3rd Type of Energy combining Negative With Positive Energy - Glow - 11-21-2020
I do not have a quote but I can certainly go look.
It is my understanding Q’uo is describing moving beyond duality consiousness where all is one.
No good guys - no bad guys, just the energy of unity where all is one energy working together to experience all facets of self. Infinity.
I have found this place in meditation when I was quite upset about something.
I moved back into this energy and was left with nothing but extreme gratitude, joy even at the awareness of how perfect every part and it’s role is. The knowing all was perfect and beautiful and there was actual no separation between seemingly antagonist energies. no war between the dark and light just an experience.
No takers, and taken from everything was working together, and playing it’s part perfectly.
To clap it takes 2 hands. Close up they look separate but zoomed out they are of one being and need each other to do what they do(in the example of clapping)
Or in the larger sense the creator and all selves perceived as separate.
I hope that is in line with your question.
I can see if I can find quotes this evening.
If that is not what you were looking for I will take the opportunity to thank you for bringing up this quote.
I don’t know if I have seen it but it sure makes me think I should spend more time in that awareness of unity meditation I found. Perhaps it could actually be service to the energies at play, and at minimum it should be an obvious place to find balance in this not always balanced feeling world.
Thank you
RE: 3rd Type of Energy combining Negative With Positive Energy - Sacred Fool - 11-22-2020
(11-21-2020, 03:45 PM)jafar Wrote:Quote:This is a type of exercise which is well, if it is repeated upon a daily basis, for there are many, many energies of a negatively oriented nature that are in motion at this time upon Planet Earth, and the adept will find itself drawn in many directions as it listens to the news, as it sees actions of a negative nature in motion, as it feels within its being the negativity in various portions of the planet, as it hears reports of this and that type of negatively oriented experience, so that there will be, for the adept, the opportunity to continue this practice upon a daily basis and make it a function of its life experience.
The message seems clear to me; I'm not sure what aspect you find unclear, jafar.
One aspect I would point to is that this sort of work is likely a step out from simply doing the exact same work upon one's own being. As one goes through the lengthy process of clearing and balancing self, one developes skill in this manner. As one's own being being becomes progressively more clear (more transparent to the Creatrix's energy), one may choose to continue the clearing/balancing process in regards to the energies around one.
Q'uo does not seem to acknowledge a third energy, by the way.
RE: 3rd Type of Energy combining Negative With Positive Energy - flofrog - 11-22-2020
Ramana Maharishi said once to a friend who long ago passed away : “ I put myself in order and the world rearranges itself around me. “. My friend said it seemed very full of oneself but Ramana said it in all humility.
RE: 3rd Type of Energy combining Negative With Positive Energy - Glow - 11-22-2020
(11-22-2020, 02:25 AM)peregrine Wrote:That actually is probably the confusion.(11-21-2020, 03:45 PM)jafar Wrote:Quote:This is a type of exercise which is well, if it is repeated upon a daily basis, for there are many, many energies of a negatively oriented nature that are in motion at this time upon Planet Earth, and the adept will find itself drawn in many directions as it listens to the news, as it sees actions of a negative nature in motion, as it feels within its being the negativity in various portions of the planet, as it hears reports of this and that type of negatively oriented experience, so that there will be, for the adept, the opportunity to continue this practice upon a daily basis and make it a function of its life experience.
The message seems clear to me; I'm not sure what aspect you find unclear, jafar.
One aspect I would point to is that this sort of work is likely a step out from simply doing the exact same work upon one's own being. As one goes through the lengthy process of clearing and balancing self, one developes skill in this manner. As one's own being being becomes progressively more clear (more transparent to the Creatrix's energy), one may choose to continue the clearing/balancing process in regards to the energies around one.
Q'uo does not seem to acknowledge a third energy, by the way.
The christ consciousness is full unity consciousness, so it isn't a third energy just an end point for polarity.
The image of surrounding STS energy in love to transform it is basically to me a reflection of the christ consciousness, or the one energy of unity.
Thinking of it as zooming in, or out.
When we focus upon duality(anything below 7th density) as a ball of swirling creator knowing itself, when we zoom out further to 7th where the two paths are unified we find just love surrounds it all(acceptance/oneness/compassion/appreciation)
7th being the over arching energy within which the dance of duality occurs.
So by visualizing surrounding the STS energy in love it is much like the reflection of 7th density unity surrounding all of it in love. As above so below.
I apologize if none of that was useful to others or clear, or doesn't resonate.
I think in pictures to a large extent so sometimes it can be hard to translate but Peregrine your comment about it not being confusing helped me to see why I was a bit confused. lol
(also why I couldn't figure out what search terms to use to seek quotes)
I love Q'uo's recommendation to ground the image in 3D by clapping or stomping.
I feel like an exploration of that could be an entirely different topic.
Is that a grounding in ones own 3D subconscious? or the overarching collective consciousness? or energetically a direct link to the energies focused upon of other selves? Probably all three.
I may have to start clapping or stomping
RE: 3rd Type of Energy combining Negative With Positive Energy - Black Dragon - 11-22-2020
From that standpoint the Christ energy can be considered as a "third type of energy". I think by looking at it from the "reductionist" point of view, trying to get to the core of the issue, maybe it would be more accurate to say there really is only one energy(the Christ energy/love) and all else is variations/distortions of that same energy being able to be filtered through an infinite number of expressions, of "lenses" so to speak-but it is all different wavelengths/colorations of the same energy filtered through the lenses of free will and individuated consciousness, not to mention personal distortions.
In the context you mentioned, this "third" type of energy is just a more pure idea of the Christ energy, of love. Unity consciousness/integration/transcendence is tied into a very pure and refined version of love/Christ consciousness, where highly polarized(STS and STO) expressions are more distorted and less refined, and incomplete. Out of the two, the STO energy is much closer to pure Christ consciousness, and a more direct path to it. The STS path takes a long, branching detour into an energy that(in and of itself) is quite far off from Christ Consciousness, but in doing so they go straight to a couple critical components/lessons that are necessary in the long run for STO to learn and integrate to get to that higher, more unity-conscious state in 6d.
RE: 3rd Type of Energy combining Negative With Positive Energy - Glow - 11-22-2020
(11-22-2020, 03:55 PM)Black Dragon Wrote: From that standpoint the Christ energy can be considered as a "third type of energy". I think by looking at it from the "reductionist" point of view, trying to get to the core of the issue, maybe it would be more accurate to say there really is only one energy(the Christ energy/love) and all else is variations/distortions of that same energy being able to be filtered through an infinite number of expressions, of "lenses" so to speak-but it is all different wavelengths/colorations of the same energy filtered through the lenses of free will and individuated consciousness, not to mention personal distortions.I agree. I guess it depends from where one views the fully unified 7D christos/christ consciousness. Zoomed out as you said it’s all one or rather the other “energies” are simply distortions if it.
In the context you mentioned, this "third" type of energy is just a more pure idea of the Christ energy, of love. Unity consciousness/integration/transcendence is tied into a very pure and refined version of love/Christ consciousness, where highly polarized(STS and STO) expressions are more distorted and less refined, and incomplete. Out of the two, the STO energy is much closer to pure Christ consciousness, and a more direct path to it. The STS path takes a long, branching detour into an energy that(in and of itself) is quite far off from Christ Consciousness, but in doing so they go straight to a couple critical components/lessons that are necessary in the long run for STO to learn and integrate to get to that higher, more unity-conscious state in 6d.
From either polarity it would appear to be a third type.
Thank you for adding your comment.
I was thinking along those lines but wasn’t sure I could express them clearly. Much appreciated.
RE: 3rd Type of Energy combining Negative With Positive Energy - flofrog - 11-22-2020
“ just a more pure idea if Christ energy” that’s well said, thanks BD
RE: 3rd Type of Energy combining Negative With Positive Energy - Dtris - 11-24-2020
Without looking at the quote in context I find this a very interesting and insightful excerpt. Quo never really addressed a third energy or not, or even the Christ consciousness or idea either. However they do mention positive energy, negative energy, and the transmutation of energy of one kind into another.
The Christ story is one of salvation, redemption, and forgiveness. While Christ was ministering he never turned away a sinner, and accepted and loved the sinner as another unique facet of the infinite creator. That same energy of salvation, one which accepts the sinner and loves them unconditionally, is also at the heart of the method Quo laid out. This is a concise method of applying high magic to better the world. Quo never explicitly agreed with the questioner, there may be a difference in qualia between positive energy transformed thru alchemy, and that which is positive from conception.
RE: 3rd Type of Energy combining Negative With Positive Energy - Glow - 11-24-2020
Just incase someone is uncomfortable with human religion being referenced I will add.
Christ/Christos/Krishna consciousness isn’t only specific to Jesus though he was able to ground it here as was the Buddha, Krishna, ect.
Those words all means anointed hence why he was called Jesus the christ.
I’m sure most know that already, but I know some due to difficult experiences with organized religion shut off as soon as they see religion mentioned so wanted to clarify.
RE: 3rd Type of Energy combining Negative With Positive Energy - flofrog - 11-24-2020
(11-24-2020, 05:30 PM)Glow Wrote: Just incase someone is uncomfortable with human religion being referenced I will add.
Christ/Christos/Krishna consciousness isn’t only specific to Jesus though he was able to ground it here as was the Buddha, Krishna, ect.
Those words all means anointed hence why he was called Jesus the christ.
I’m sure most know that already, but I know some due to difficult experiences with organized religion shut off as soon as they see religion mentioned so wanted to clarify.
Thank you Glow, quite right. I know that when I want to get into contact with my spiritual guides, I invoke Christ Light for the exchange and that has no link for me to Christianity per se..
RE: 3rd Type of Energy combining Negative With Positive Energy - jafar - 12-08-2020
(11-24-2020, 05:30 PM)Glow Wrote: Just incase someone is uncomfortable with human religion being referenced I will add.
Christ/Christos/Krishna consciousness isn’t only specific to Jesus though he was able to ground it here as was the Buddha, Krishna, ect.
Those words all means anointed hence why he was called Jesus the christ.
I’m sure most know that already, but I know some due to difficult experiences with organized religion shut off as soon as they see religion mentioned so wanted to clarify.
Thank you,
Since we're on Iashua / Jesus topic, I read somewhere on Ra's material that Jesus also initially had issues with 'negative emotions'. Especially during his younger years as a child. I actually read that before I found Ra's material, on an apocryphal writings called "Infancy Gospel".
And even on the "official Gospels" we can still read how Jesus cursed a fig tree or angry at trader / merchants around the temple or how he 'cursed' the Pharisees / scribes labeling them as viper.
Negative emotions such as fear, anger and hatred does has it's own 'unique' characteristic.
It resulted in 'stronger determination' and 'ability to sustain more stress or discomfort'.
It's easily observable on especially STS lenient personas and of course can also be easily experienced by ourselves.
How to 'combine' these 'negative' emotions with the 'positive' and how to properly control thus find the 'balance' is what I'm trying to learn.
RE: 3rd Type of Energy combining Negative With Positive Energy - Ohr Ein Sof - 12-08-2020
(12-08-2020, 05:47 PM)jafar Wrote:(11-24-2020, 05:30 PM)Glow Wrote: Just incase someone is uncomfortable with human religion being referenced I will add.
Christ/Christos/Krishna consciousness isn’t only specific to Jesus though he was able to ground it here as was the Buddha, Krishna, ect.
Those words all means anointed hence why he was called Jesus the christ.
I’m sure most know that already, but I know some due to difficult experiences with organized religion shut off as soon as they see religion mentioned so wanted to clarify.
Thank you,
Since we're on Iashua / Jesus topic, I read somewhere on Ra's material that Jesus also initially had issues with 'negative emotions'. Especially during his younger years as a child. I actually read that before I found Ra's material, on an apocryphal writings called "Infancy Gospel".
And even on the "official Gospels" we can still read how Jesus cursed a fig tree or angry at trader / merchants around the temple or how he 'cursed' the Pharisees / scribes labeling them as viper.
Negative emotions such as fear, anger and hatred does has it's own 'unique' characteristic.
It resulted in 'stronger determination' and 'ability to sustain more stress or discomfort'.
It's easily observable on especially STS lenient personas and of course can also be easily experienced by ourselves.
How to 'combine' these 'negative' emotions with the 'positive' and how to properly control thus find the 'balance' is what I'm trying to learn.
Simply put, to realize that you are all things. Look at fear but place it on a 1"-12" ruler let's say. The one inch mark being the most fearful you have ever been and the number 12 inch mark being the most courageous you have ever been. Fear is courage; the only difference between the two is the degree of fear you contain or courage. If you feel very fearful then there is a lesser amount of courage but it doesn't mean you have zero courage, you contain less and more fear. Everything that ever was, is and will be create(d) is created by the same energy, the only variation is by degree. And when Ra says, "you are everything" then contemplate how you can be all things and release yourself from the prison idea that you are only fear or whatever other negative emotions you might contain. Once we realize this, we can begin with the steps to reconcile our personal paradoxes. It is not easy but worthwhile.
RE: 3rd Type of Energy combining Negative With Positive Energy - Asolsutsesvyl - 12-12-2020
I think the whole point of what Q'uo said may be that the energy resulting has the nature of the achievement of transmuting the negative into the positive. It is connected to that process which it came from and may carry something of a momentum which makes it easier for that process to spread and go further.