• Bringers of the Dawn
  

• Ra Material, channeling transcripts, Voices of the Confederation and other L&L publications
  

• Conversations With God – the dialog books, not the commentary books by Neale Donald Walsch
  

• Books by or about Yogananda Paramahansa
  

• Commentaries on Edgar Cayce readings
  

(03-23-2021, 07:16 PM)Ming the Merciful Wrote: Bhagavad-Gita (ISKCON Edition).

That is the most profound book I have ever read. I have read a lot of philosophical books, covering Hinduism, Sikhism, Zen Buddhism and Shinto. Of all the books I read, none are as good as that edition of the Gita. I still get shivers down my back as I read the Purports. It is also the only edition of the book that the majority of Universities around the world use for Philosophical Studies. When HDG Bhaktivedanta commissioned the rewriting of the book, that was his highest achievement. For that I will always be indebted.

(02-09-2021, 04:51 PM)Minyatur Wrote: I am currently reading 'Dao De Jing: A Philosophical Translation' and very much love it. It kind of makes you realize most things that are in the Ra material were already around for quite a long time.

There is the entire philosophy of Logos and sub-Logoi (field focus and individual foci), Oneness, livingness of all things as processes in evolution, the concept of the first 3 distortions from which all other distortions stem from without predominance (Dao engenders one. One two. Two three. And three, the myriad things.), contains the STO philosophy as the basis of development of one's character which becomes the mean of making your life meaningful. I'm definitely forgetting a whole lot of parallels to add.

The main difference seems to lie in it not wanting to personify the totality of everything, which they call the Dao. On the other hand, the Ra material refers to it as the One Infinite Creator. Semantics I guess.

(04-20-2021, 06:09 PM)Ymarsakar Wrote: Sun Tzu's Art of War, Tao Te Ching, Socrates The Way of the Warrior (Peaceful)

The Book of Mormon, the unadulterated parts of the ancient scriptures, and A Course in Miracles workbook.

Michael Newton's stuff.

(04-20-2021, 07:05 PM)Ymarsakar Wrote: Joseph Smith, the founder of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints was and is the real deal.

Eastern Philosophy and the Vedic religions, do not have problems with other branches. In fact, India has so many "off branches" that it got really confusing between Jains, Buddhists, and Hindus. They never had a religious holy war against each other nor did they have large scale persecutions enforced by the state.

"I have read better comic books."

The true Eastern faithful would never attempt to belittle or compare their system vs other systems, since there are like hundreds if not thousands.

Ming, are you being mind controlled by something you read or heard about in the West? Un dealt with personal catalysts with your brother for example?

Reading the whole book of Mormon is quite impressive, as it is not a small text. Why did you do it?

Quote:Chapter 58


1. The government that seems the most unwise,
Oft goodness to the people best supplies;
That which is meddling, touching everything,
Will work but ill, and disappointment bring. Misery!--happiness is to be found by its side! Happiness!--misery lurks beneath it! Who knows what either will come to in the end?

2. Shall we then dispense with correction? The (method of) correction shall by a turn become distortion, and the good in it shall by a turn become evil. The delusion of the people (on this point) has indeed subsisted for a long time.

3. Therefore the sage is (like) a square which cuts no one (with its angles); (like) a corner which injures no one (with its sharpness). He is straightforward, but allows himself no license; he is bright, but does not dazzle.

(04-21-2021, 08:26 AM)Ming the Merciful Wrote:

(04-20-2021, 07:05 PM)Ymarsakar Wrote: Joseph Smith, the founder of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints was and is the real deal.

Eastern Philosophy and the Vedic religions, do not have problems with other branches. In fact, India has so many "off branches" that it got really confusing between Jains, Buddhists, and Hindus. They never had a religious holy war against each other nor did they have large scale persecutions enforced by the state.

"I have read better comic books."

The true Eastern faithful would never attempt to belittle or compare their system vs other systems, since there are like hundreds if not thousands.

Ming, are you being mind controlled by something you read or heard about in the West? Un dealt with personal catalysts with your brother for example?

Reading the whole book of Mormon is quite impressive, as it is not a small text. Why did you do it?

The difference between Hinduism, and Western Religion? In the East, it is established that each individual has his/her interpretation of the Divine. This is why in Hinduism there are three hundred million God(s), or, three hundred million aspects of the entity. Also according to Eastern Philosophy, each interpretation is an Absolute, (and correct). Your interpretation could be the polar opposite to my concept of Reality and the God(s), and although they are viewed differently, both interpretations are Absolutes, (and correct). For me to convert you to my belief is immoral.

I disagree, the Book of Mormon is not impressive. I have read many Philosophies from the East, and the Book of Mormon is not of the same quality or calibre. Its lacking genuine Spirituality.

(04-21-2021, 12:51 PM)Black Dragon Wrote:

(04-21-2021, 08:26 AM)Ming the Merciful Wrote:

(04-20-2021, 07:05 PM)Ymarsakar Wrote: Joseph Smith, the founder of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints was and is the real deal.

Eastern Philosophy and the Vedic religions, do not have problems with other branches. In fact, India has so many "off branches" that it got really confusing between Jains, Buddhists, and Hindus. They never had a religious holy war against each other nor did they have large scale persecutions enforced by the state.

"I have read better comic books."

The true Eastern faithful would never attempt to belittle or compare their system vs other systems, since there are like hundreds if not thousands.

Ming, are you being mind controlled by something you read or heard about in the West? Un dealt with personal catalysts with your brother for example?

Reading the whole book of Mormon is quite impressive, as it is not a small text. Why did you do it?

The difference between Hinduism, and Western Religion? In the East, it is established that each individual has his/her interpretation of the Divine. This is why in Hinduism there are three hundred million God(s), or, three hundred million aspects of the entity. Also according to Eastern Philosophy, each interpretation is an Absolute, (and correct). Your interpretation could be the polar opposite to my concept of Reality and the God(s), and although they are viewed differently, both interpretations are Absolutes, (and correct). For me to convert you to my belief is immoral.

I disagree, the Book of Mormon is not impressive. I have read many Philosophies from the East, and the Book of Mormon is not of the same quality or calibre. Its lacking genuine Spirituality.

I feel called to share some of my perspectives. A lot of your posts are really insightful. In this area, however, I feel maybe there's some progress you could make or new breakthroughs you could have that would enrich yourself spiritually and knowledge wise. I don't have a lot of super direct experiential knowledge with Mormonism. I am learning more about the LDS now and I'll come back to that at the closing of what I say.

In high school, I was agnostic but with a tendency to believe in spirituality and reincarnation, but wasn't fully awakened or knowledgeable in a spiritual manner. I went through the phase of learning everything that was wrong about religion, and posted on a  mostly left-wing forum that made fun of religious fundamentalists. Some of the people there were really hardline materialist and ridicule and mention of spirituality. One guy who was a balanced progressive(not in the political lingo necessarily) Mormon used to get a lot of crap even though his perspectives were reasonable.

A lot between then and now taught me there are good and bad, useful and useless, elements in every religious and spiritual tradition. Part of being an adept is to not "throw the baby out with the bathwater", and recognize and integrate the good, useful, pure, and truly loving and wise elements from all these sources I encounter, even if I do not choose to study them deeply, I can at least give them their due respect and know they all have good elements.

After my first stages of awakening I identified closer with Buddhism than anything else, but still went my own direction. Even nowadays, I believe that Buddhism and other far Eastern religions and traditions are less polluted, less distorted, and more in tact with their true integrity than "Western" ones. I mean, nothing that passes through generations of humans will ever be 100% perfect, that's what discernment and being your own authority is for, but these far Eastern traditions, their level of purity is quite high, especially speaking relatively. It's quite easy to see their worth, right? With that I agree 100%. They are quite excellent and I personally, subjectively am drawn to them more than anything resembling Judeo-Christianity. I can tell you Jesus is for real though and I'm learning more about the positive elements of REAL Christianity. That is to say, any kind that truly comes from the heart.

With those "annoying" western religions, there is plenty of real wisdom, and plenty that comes from the heart, including Mormonism. I'm learning now just how charitable their Church has been in humanitarian ventures, and I'm seeing a lot of higher spiritual knowledge that's a lot more unfiltered and undistorted than I've seen in any other branch of Christianity I have encountered. You just have to dig a little deeper. What if I told you the gems are quite rewarding, and if you are walking on the grounds of respect and non-judgment, they will be all that closer to the surface?

(04-20-2021, 07:05 PM)Ymarsakar Wrote: Joseph Smith, the founder of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints was and is the real deal.

(06-09-2021, 05:51 PM)Ming the Merciful Wrote: This is not about any book, (per se). A few days ago I stumbled across this website, (falling flat onto my face, (metaphorically)), and it is a library that contains hundreds, (if not thousands), of free books in "PDF" format. On every subject that you could imagine. If you are grounded in a specific religious tradition, or philosophy, you will find it there. Go and have a look, (already), you will not regret it.


https://holybooks.com/about/

Post Script unto the Seekers of Truth.

I have downloaded several books from there, my PDF library grows rapidly.

Quote:I now speak of the basic law of the unity of the many, the law of the octaves. It has
repeatedly been stated that this law is all comprehensive, that every process in its gradual
development, independently of its scale, is fully determined by the law or the construction of
the seven toned gamut. In other words, the seven toned gamut in its structure shows forth all
the properties of this law. It has also been said that every completed process is formed from
an elementary phenomenon, considered as "Do", and from a derivative phenomenon "Do" of
the succeeding octave higher or lower, according as the process is evolutive or involutive.
Every note, every tone of the gamut on another scale, is again in the same way a whole
octave, as it were a closed round cycle. Every interval between two contiguous tones is again
a whole octave. Those intervals between mi and fa, and between si and do, which cannot be
bridged in the process we are considering on their own energy and require in order to pass on
outside assistance - assistance from the outside only - thereby connecting their own processes
up with other processes. In other words, the law of the octave connects all processes of world
creation, and offers to the initiated the scale by which he can pass on, and the law of the
structure of the octave, and makes it possible for him to know everything and every
phenomenon just as they are and in all their reciprocal relations, together with the things and
phenomena connected with them. And so for the synthesization of all knowledge relating to
the law of the structure of the octave, there exists a symbol, with the form of a geometrical
figure. But before passing on to the description itself of the symbol, I shall say a few words
about the teaching that utilizes this symbol, and its relation to other systems that have
recourse to symbolic methods for handing down knowledge.

(06-10-2021, 10:19 AM)Patrick Wrote:

(06-09-2021, 05:51 PM)Ming the Merciful Wrote: This is not about any book, (per se). A few days ago I stumbled across this website, (falling flat onto my face, (metaphorically)), and it is a library that contains hundreds, (if not thousands), of free books in "PDF" format. On every subject that you could imagine. If you are grounded in a specific religious tradition, or philosophy, you will find it there. Go and have a look, (already), you will not regret it.


https://holybooks.com/about/

Post Script unto the Seekers of Truth.

I have downloaded several books from there, my PDF library grows rapidly.

What do you think would be closer to the Law of One in there ?

Maybe something like this?  http://www.holybooks.com/wp-content/uploads/CLF-TheEnneagram-Gurdjieff.pdf

Quote:I now speak of the basic law of the unity of the many, the law of the octaves. It has
repeatedly been stated that this law is all comprehensive, that every process in its gradual
development, independently of its scale, is fully determined by the law or the construction of
the seven toned gamut. In other words, the seven toned gamut in its structure shows forth all
the properties of this law. It has also been said that every completed process is formed from
an elementary phenomenon, considered as "Do", and from a derivative phenomenon "Do" of
the succeeding octave higher or lower, according as the process is evolutive or involutive.
Every note, every tone of the gamut on another scale, is again in the same way a whole
octave, as it were a closed round cycle. Every interval between two contiguous tones is again
a whole octave. Those intervals between mi and fa, and between si and do, which cannot be
bridged in the process we are considering on their own energy and require in order to pass on
outside assistance - assistance from the outside only - thereby connecting their own processes
up with other processes. In other words, the law of the octave connects all processes of world
creation, and offers to the initiated the scale by which he can pass on, and the law of the
structure of the octave, and makes it possible for him to know everything and every
phenomenon just as they are and in all their reciprocal relations, together with the things and
phenomena connected with them. And so for the synthesization of all knowledge relating to
the law of the structure of the octave, there exists a symbol, with the form of a geometrical
figure. But before passing on to the description itself of the symbol, I shall say a few words
about the teaching that utilizes this symbol, and its relation to other systems that have
recourse to symbolic methods for handing down knowledge.