(04-17-2021, 08:50 PM)Patrick Wrote: I would say yes. But I am not sure if wanderers needs to wander in 4d and 5d. There is no veil after 3d, so you can help them without being a wanderer. But that's a good question.

(04-19-2021, 03:04 AM)STAR-ONE Wrote: What makes you say that you are / we are wanderers ?

As far as I am concerned, I would say star seed because I strongly feel that I am not from here but to say 6d wanderers, that I do not know.

(04-18-2021, 10:57 PM)LeafieGreens Wrote: Does this mean that when the earth fully hits 4D and suddenly everyone is telepathic, that 6D wanderers will physically vanish back into their SMC? Or will they have the option to completely change form from that of a human being to that of a 6D Venusian 10 foot tall Blue Avian being?
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(04-18-2021, 10:57 PM)LeafieGreens Wrote: ...
I tell my wife that 5D and 6D entities are observing us constantly, even more so if we are wanderers. I tell her they probably enjoy the show as we bumble around trying to attain full awareness (it's a divine comedy, after all).

(04-19-2021, 03:04 AM)STAR-ONE Wrote: What makes you say that you are / we are wanderers ?

As far as I am concerned, I would say star seed because I strongly feel that I am not from here but to say 6d wanderers, that I do not know.

(04-19-2021, 08:48 AM)Great Central Sun Wrote: As I understand Patrick, there is an ascension going on now.
I have felt my body under intense pressure as we move through a new energy
in the galaxy. If you follow the Schumann Resonance, it is beginning to "white out"
which is incredible.

I believe many who have done the inner work will ascend into crystalline bodies in this lifetime.
I already feel floaty and have a strong connection to the gods, and feel God's love immensely.
God's love actually makes my body exhausted at times feeling it 24/7.

Things happened since Ra's transmission like a new black hole manifesting and a new energy
that is helping with ascension, not to mention many ET races helping.

(04-19-2021, 08:48 AM)Great Central Sun Wrote: ...Dolores Cannon said this has never happened in Creation before that a whole planet (and people) ascends like his.

http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/2006/2006_0101.aspx Q`uo Wrote:...Eventually, your planet will no longer be able to sustain the evolutionary energy necessary to live a third-density life. Once this has occurred and there are no longer any third-density entities dwelling on the planet, fourth density will indeed become able not only to interpenetrate third density but to appear. At this point in its development, all of fourth density chooses not to appear. It chooses to remain as an unseen energy in order to allow the third-density entities to complete their patterns...

http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/2007/2007_0731.aspx Q`uo Wrote:...We would suggest that the possibility/probability vortices at this time indicate that each entity to whom we speak shall live out his natural physical life, die a natural death, and then walk the steps of light to see whether he has graduated from third grade or density in this school of souls, or whether he shall have to repeat the grade...

http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/1985/1985_0609.aspx Hatonn Wrote:...it is within the self that the transition shall truly occur. That which occurs at harvest is within the self; that which occurs within the planet, although interesting, is a separate subject from the one which might well be considered far more interesting to the self. And that is that it is likely that this lifetime or at the very most, for those who die soon from the physical body, one more lifetime, shall be the last opportunity before graduation to refine the polarity of self to the point at which you the seeker might accept the quality of light which is the native light in fourth density...

http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/2006/2006_0101.aspx Q`uo Wrote:...One reason there is no need to fear these changes is that these changes are largely non-physical. As the questioner expressed the question, it was clear that the questioner was aware that they take place in the unseen realms, the inner planes. Therefore, while these changes are absolutely radical and revolutionary, they are not changes that will affect life as you know it on planet Earth. Consensus reality shall reflect only shadows of these changes...

http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/2006/2006_0101.aspx Q`uo Wrote:...It is very likely—and we are looking only at probability vortices, not actual predictions—that your people will not only be able to live out their current incarnations here but that there will be enough energy within third density to maintain third-density bodies and the energies of evolution, in terms of the spirit, for some of your time, perhaps as many as a hundred or a hundred and fifty of your years. It is difficult but not impossible to predict with any accuracy what shall occur with your people. However, the time of third density for doing third-density work is virtually over...

http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/1985/1985_0818.aspx Hatonn Wrote:...we may use an analogy further utilizing the concept of the school with the grades that represent the levels of understanding or densities of experience. In your third-density illusion, each experience is a question—each experience is the same question. There is only one question on this test which you call life. It is reflected in each experience. The question is, “Do you see love in this experience?” In some degree the seeker will see love in each experience; in some degree the seeker will not. As the seeker is able to answer each experience question with an answer that approaches one hundred percent “Yes,” the seeker is polarizing in the positive sense. We may report that the good news of the test is that fifty-one percent is passing. When the seeker is able to answer each answer to a level of fifty-one percent of experiencing and seeing love, the seeker is then of a polarized enough nature to move into the fourth-density grade in the octave of creation that you now experience. The seeker, then, has achieved the minimum polarization that will allow it to withstand the greater intensity of energy available within the fourth-density class.

Without at least the ability to see love in fifty-one percent of one’s perceptions and experiences, the energy available in the fourth-density class would be too much for the circuit of the seeker who had not yet sufficiently regularized or polarized its being in order that its circuits not be blown, shall we say, as the greater intensity of light became the reality for the seeker...

Quote:63.8 Questioner: I would like to continue with the questions about the fact that in fourth-density the red, orange, and green energies will be activated; yellow, blue, etc. being in potentiation. Right now, we have green energies activated. They have been activated for the last 45 years. I am wondering about the transition through this period so that the green is totally activated and the yellow is in potentiation. What will we lose as the yellow goes from activation into potentiation, and what will we gain as green comes into total activation, and what is the process?

Ra: I am Ra. It is misleading to speak of gains and losses when dealing with the subject of the cycle’s ending and the green-ray cycle beginning upon your sphere. It is to be kept in the forefront of the faculties of intelligence that there is one creation in which there is no loss. There are progressive cycles for experiential use by entities. We may now address your query.

As the green-ray cycle or the density of love and understanding begins to take shape the yellow-ray plane or Earth which you now enjoy in your dance will cease to be inhabited for some period of your space/time as the space/time necessary for fourth-density entities to learn their ability to shield their density from that of third is learned. After this period there will come a time when third density may again cycle on the yellow-ray sphere.

Meanwhile there is another sphere, congruent to a great extent with yellow ray, forming. This fourth-density sphere coexists with first, second, and third. It is of a denser nature due to the rotational core atomic aspects of its material. We have discussed this subject with you.

The fourth-density entities which incarnate at this space/time are fourth density in the view of experience but are incarnating in less dense vehicles due to desire to experience and aid in the birth of fourth density upon this plane.

You may note that fourth-density entities have a great abundance of compassion.

Quote:20.6 Questioner: Speaking of the rapid change that occurred in the physical vehicle; the change from second to third density: this, you said, occurred in approximately a generation and a half. Body hair was lost and there were structural changes.
I am aware of the physics of Dewey B. Larson, who states that all is motion or vibration. Am I correct in assuming that the basic vibration, which makes up the physical world as we experience it, changes, thus creating a different set of parameters, shall I say, in this short period of time between density changes allowing for the new type of vehicle? Am I correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

(04-19-2021, 08:41 AM)Great Central Sun Wrote:

(04-19-2021, 03:04 AM)STAR-ONE Wrote: What makes you say that you are / we are wanderers ?

As far as I am concerned, I would say star seed because I strongly feel that I am not from here but to say 6d wanderers, that I do not know.

Starseeds are wanderers because they "wander" from another world.
Ra said most wanderers are of 6th density on Earth.

(04-19-2021, 08:48 AM)Great Central Sun Wrote: As I understand Patrick, there is an ascension going on now.
I have felt my body under intense pressure as we move through a new energy
in the galaxy. If you follow the Schumann Resonance, it is beginning to "white out"
which is incredible.

I believe many who have done the inner work will ascend into crystalline bodies in this lifetime.
I already feel floaty and have a strong connection to the gods, and feel God's love immensely.
God's love actually makes my body exhausted at times feeling it 24/7.

Things happened since Ra's transmission like a new black hole manifesting and a new energy
that is helping with ascension, not to mention many ET races helping.

Dolores Cannon said this has never happened in Creation before that a whole planet (and people) ascends like his.

(04-19-2021, 09:43 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: An unactivated avatar is the same as an earth human. Even worse off usually.

(04-19-2021, 09:44 AM)STAR-ONE Wrote: ...I always wondered if we chose our parents / families / countries ect before incarnating or was it done randomly?

(04-19-2021, 09:54 AM)Patrick Wrote:

(04-19-2021, 09:44 AM)STAR-ONE Wrote: ...I always wondered if we chose our parents / families / countries ect before incarnating or was it done randomly?

You chose that and a great many other things. Only the very new 3d entities have their plans chosen by their higher-self until they become aware enough to take part in the process.

(04-19-2021, 10:04 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: What do you mean by npcs? I dont see them as npcs, more like lower level actors.

(04-19-2021, 10:30 AM)STAR-ONE Wrote:

(04-19-2021, 09:54 AM)Patrick Wrote:

(04-19-2021, 09:44 AM)STAR-ONE Wrote: ...I always wondered if we chose our parents / families / countries ect before incarnating or was it done randomly?

You chose that and a great many other things. Only the very new 3d entities have their plans chosen by their higher-self until they become aware enough to take part in the process.

Maybe yes, my close family is so the opposite of me that sometimes I wonder why I'm here especially as I have a hard time changing them!

The upward energy waves had no effect on them, well that said I respect their choices not to know but it is quite frustrating for me.

(04-19-2021, 10:04 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=12361&pid=294470#pid294470

The latest quo quote may shed some light.

What do you mean by npcs? I dont see them as npcs, more like lower level actors.

(04-19-2021, 10:33 AM)jafar Wrote:

(04-19-2021, 10:04 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: What do you mean by npcs? I dont see them as npcs, more like lower level actors.

Yes I usually find this irritating when somebody labeled another self as merely "NPC", a conscious being is a conscious being, regardless of the designated role on specific context.

A merely an audience watching an orchestra, might be a rock star on another venue.
And a conductor in an orchestra, might be merely an audience in a rock concert.

Both the audience and the performer plays vital part in both orchestra or rock concert.

(04-19-2021, 10:34 AM)Patrick Wrote:

(04-19-2021, 10:30 AM)STAR-ONE Wrote:

(04-19-2021, 09:54 AM)Patrick Wrote:

(04-19-2021, 09:44 AM)STAR-ONE Wrote: ...I always wondered if we chose our parents / families / countries ect before incarnating or was it done randomly?

You chose that and a great many other things. Only the very new 3d entities have their plans chosen by their higher-self until they become aware enough to take part in the process.

Maybe yes, my close family is so the opposite of me that sometimes I wonder why I'm here especially as I have a hard time changing them!

The upward energy waves had no effect on them, well that said I respect their choices not to know but it is quite frustrating for me.

I would say that one of the things you are here learning is that you cannot learn for others.

Actually, there is no need to change others per se. Just make your life the best example of what you would like others to learn.

(04-19-2021, 09:44 AM)Patrick Wrote:

http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/2006/2006_0101.aspx Q`uo Wrote:...One reason there is no need to fear these changes is that these changes are largely non-physical. As the questioner expressed the question, it was clear that the questioner was aware that they take place in the unseen realms, the inner planes. Therefore, while these changes are absolutely radical and revolutionary, they are not changes that will affect life as you know it on planet Earth. Consensus reality shall reflect only shadows of these changes...

(04-19-2021, 10:46 AM)STAR-ONE Wrote:

(04-19-2021, 10:33 AM)jafar Wrote:

(04-19-2021, 10:04 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: What do you mean by npcs? I dont see them as npcs, more like lower level actors.

Yes I usually find this irritating when somebody labeled another self as merely "NPC", a conscious being is a conscious being, regardless of the designated role on specific context.

A merely an audience watching an orchestra, might be a rock star on another venue.
And a conductor in an orchestra, might be merely an audience in a rock concert.

Both the audience and the performer plays vital part in both orchestra or rock concert.

Could it be that humanoid appearing beings are simply cybernetic type beings (alien android 1 for example) devoid of conscience / soul?

I don't mean to sound derogatory to anyone and sorry if the term "pnj" is offensive to you.

(04-19-2021, 11:26 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: I know of the subject matter and it is not offensive to me. Like most things humans interpret using their limited mentalities, there is a large degree of distortion.

All are of creation. Which means everything is a part of source. Including those 2nd density graduated souls of pets that you call npcs or soulless.

(04-19-2021, 10:46 AM)STAR-ONE Wrote:

(04-19-2021, 10:33 AM)jafar Wrote:

(04-19-2021, 10:04 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: What do you mean by npcs? I dont see them as npcs, more like lower level actors.

Yes I usually find this irritating when somebody labeled another self as merely "NPC", a conscious being is a conscious being, regardless of the designated role on specific context.

A merely an audience watching an orchestra, might be a rock star on another venue.
And a conductor in an orchestra, might be merely an audience in a rock concert.

Both the audience and the performer plays vital part in both orchestra or rock concert.

Could it be that humanoid appearing beings are simply cybernetic type beings (alien android 1 for example) devoid of conscience / soul?

I don't mean to sound derogatory to anyone and sorry if the term "pnj" is offensive to you.

(04-19-2021, 08:22 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: A 6th density semi activated avatar will have different options. They can choose undercover work and just experience the new world without changing it.

Quote:
Or they can walk out and a new soul takes over that body. They become a deactivated avatar then. A walk off and not a walk in. Of coursw deactivated avatars can awaken later if the spirit is willing or their help is required.

Quote: De activated 6den avatars may become treants and old tree guardians. Solidified into rock crystal until the racebthat gave birth to them forgets the origins.

Quote:Remember, there is a minimum of about 1000 years to make these decisions. So the stages can be expwrienced out of order too.

Everyone wanders. Some just forgot more over time

(04-19-2021, 12:04 PM)EvolvingPhoenix Wrote: ...
Really? I thought this planet had roughly 300 years to before the harvest cycle ends and people who didn't graduate have to f*** off to another planet for further seeking?

Where do you get this 1,000+ years figure from?

Quote:40.8 Questioner: Then what will be the time of transition on this planet from third to fourth density?

Ra: I am Ra. This is difficult to estimate due to the uncharacteristic anomalies of this transition. There are at this space/time nexus beings incarnate which have begun fourth-density work. However, the third-density climate of planetary consciousness is retarding the process. At this particular nexus the possibility/probability vortices indicate somewhere between 100 and 700 of your years as transition period. This cannot be accurate due to the volatility of your peoples at this space/time.