(04-23-2021, 06:09 PM)Steppingfeet Wrote: First and foremost I wanted to use the program as a platform to explore Suzanna's ongoing unfolding.

(04-30-2021, 12:36 PM)Bliss Wrote: I can pipe in... Suzanna here.

I would be delighted to plumb the depths of the spiritual implications and effects of this experience on my life.  I'm happy to answer any specific questions you may have.  I'm actually trying to process this more as we speak.  It's been a challenge because of my relative isolation with this experience, as well as the challenges of our limited language to express ineffable experiences.  I think a round table discussion almost entirely on the spiritual understanding of something like this is a great idea.

(05-01-2021, 12:16 PM)flofrog Wrote: Anders, perhaps it is blocked but perhaps simply blocked by previous times, ways to be handled by religion and other traditions,  and now is the time to see it differently, and experience it differently, whence such a glorious podcast...

(04-30-2021, 12:36 PM)Bliss Wrote: I can pipe in... Suzanna here.

I would be delighted to plumb the depths of the spiritual implications and effects of this experience on my life.  I'm happy to answer any specific questions you may have.  I'm actually trying to process this more as we speak.  It's been a challenge because of my relative isolation with this experience, as well as the challenges of our limited language to express ineffable experiences.  I think a round table discussion almost entirely on the spiritual understanding of something like this is a great idea.

(05-01-2021, 12:20 PM)flofrog Wrote: you have no idea how much gratitude I feel for your experience and this wonderful podcast.  I had two platonic experiences in my life whose power I just couldn't explain,  as the first one really changed and nourished my whole life afterwards and now it makes sense.

Multiple gratitude indeed

(05-01-2021, 12:31 PM)Diana Wrote: From your perspective, what are some of the factors you think have contributed to the limitations of sexual experience for not only women, but men as well. Do you see this as something to do with evolution of consciousness, whereby the human race may be now moving into the beginning possibilities of (more open) 4th-density relationships? And in referencing history, how do you imagine the wounds promoted by societal and cultural institutions such as certain religions being healed, and in this I refer especially to women.

Beyond that, how do you imagine the perceptions of sexual experience becoming more open and accepting given our cultures today? Do you see this as an individual transformation, or a cultural one—both, or other way to get "there" from "here"?

(05-02-2021, 05:40 PM)Sacred Fool Wrote:  
I re-listened to part of Episode #99 today and it sparked a memory of an astral sexual experience I had in the late 1990's.  For a bunch of years I attended workshops with a guy who worked with various inner planes masters and he would zap us with different subtle energies that were supposed to do different things.  He would talk for a little while about this or that particular energy, then we would sit or lie down for maybe and hour, take a break and then receive more energy.

One time I chanced to meet and chat with a woman for a bit before the first session.  She was a friend of another attendee, was married and was moving in a few weeks to another state.  I found her pleasant, but was not notably attracted to her.  And yet....during that first session, I swear we had sex on an astral level.  It was nice, as well as very unexpected and confusing.  I don't recall the duration, but it could have been 10 or 15 mins., and that was it.  It didn't change my life, and she and I waived to each other afterwards, but never spoke at length again.  I asked a psychic about it one time, just to be sure it really happened and was told, yes, it happened...and that was that.

So, I'm thinking, Suzanna (if you're still reading these posts), that there must be different levels of these experiences, maybe from novelty to profound.  I'm wondering how you would differentiate the experiences of your dreams from vaginal orgasm from casual arousal from shared experiences.  Basically, how would you describe the range from, say, least memorable to most memorable?  What are the distinguishing characteristics?

Also, if spirit is the translatrix (as Gary might say)--or translator--or flexible connector between the upsurging will to seek and to serve with the downpouring of Intelligent Energy, then how would describe this role being played as these erotic energies "lubricate" this connection between the conscious self and other universal intelligent energies?  (Gosh, I hope this question is not an anti-climax!)

Thanks.
  

(05-05-2021, 02:25 PM)Bliss Wrote: I'm afraid I've read your last question several times and I can't seem to penetrate it (ha ha).  I suspect I'd need you to rephrase.  It might be that my answer to Diana somewhat speaks to that?

Quote:Carla: I’d like to know your views on the transformations from the sexual on a simple red-ray basis to sacramental sex, with any comments you may have on that subject.

I am L/Leema, and, my sister, we must apologize for our hesitancy and seeming lack of words, but the field of study which you have queried about is one which is large. Many volumes could not contain its scope. The manner of seeking the one Creator by the use of the transformational potentials within the sexual energy exchange is a study which requires the discipline and intent and purity that any study concerning one’s evolutionary path would require. The basic concept is that through the sexual energy exchange, a levering factor may be utilized to propel the consciousness of an entity or entities through the routes of mind that the shuttle of the spirit may be activated and allow the fully experienced presence of the one infinite Creator.

The means by which this transformation of red-ray sexual energy into the indigo-ray energy center and out the crown chakra is quite beyond simple description and must remain hidden except by the careful experience and analysis of the seeker who travels this path. Then there are avenues of information that are available.

May we answer further, my sister?

Carla: Well, yes, just on one specific thing. The reason that I thought of it was that you said earlier that the despair of the body was a reflection of the despair of the mind, and I have read before in the Ra material that the body in general is a reflection of the mind. In the seeking of sacramental sex, it seems that the body is informing the mind, rather than vice versa, and I thought that was kind of interesting. If you can comment at all on that, I’d appreciate it.

I am L/Leema, and we will attempt comment that does not overly confuse. The body, in its function of providing the physical orgasm, serves as a trigger for the levering effect which we mentioned previously. The trigger, then being pulled, will allow further work according to the degree of success of the seeker in previous use of mental catalyst and physical catalyst in the process of its own inner balancing or accepting of lessons presented in the daily round of activities. Thus, prepared by such disciplined meditative balancing, the mind and body may rest in their accepted distortions and the greater work of wind and fire may then proceed through the purified intentions of the entities so utilizing the sexual energy transfer.

May we answer further, my sister?

Carla: Well, just to clarify whether that would mean that sex itself then partakes, without transformation, that is, in red ray of earth and water—those being the other two elements?

I am L/Leema. This is basically correct, my sister, for within the illusion that is yours, experience is drawn, magnetically speaking, through the female nature of earth and water, that desires and lessons through desires may be manifested into your physical reality, be then mentally perceived and processed as catalyst. This work having been accomplished to a sufficient degree, the mind and body in their female functions draw the processed catalyst through the lower energy centers and out through the crown chakra in a reaching or yearning for the light of the wind and fire qualities of the spirit.

May we answer further, my sister?

Carla: Are wind and fire, then, male? And earth and water, female? Or does each element have both aspects?

I am L/Leema, and we find your former assumption to be more nearly correct.

Ra from 6.1 Wrote:The third area is the spiritual complex which embodies the fields of force and consciousness which are the least distorted of your mind/body/spirit complex. The exploration and balancing of the spirit complex is indeed the longest and most subtle part of your learn/teaching. We have considered the mind as a tree. The mind controls the body. With the mind single-pointed, balanced, and aware, the body comfortable in whatever biases and distortions make it appropriately balanced for that instrument, the instrument is then ready to proceed with the great work.


That is the work of wind and fire. The spiritual body energy field is a pathway, or channel. When body and mind are receptive and open, then the spirit can become a functioning shuttle or communicator from the entity’s individual energy of will upwards, and from the streamings of the creative fire and wind downwards.

Quote:13.16 Questioner: Could you tell me about this first density of planetary entities?

Ra: I am Ra. Each step recapitulates intelligent infinity in its discovery of awareness. In a planetary environment all begins in what you would call chaos, energy undirected and random in its infinity. Slowly, in your terms of understanding, there forms a focus of self-awareness. Thus the Logos moves. Light comes to form the darkness, according to the co-Creator’s patterns and vibratory rhythms, so constructing a certain type of experience. This begins with first density which is the density of consciousness, the mineral and water life upon the planet learning from fire and wind the awareness of being. This is the first density.

Quote:Carla: Yes, there was something that you said that I’ve always meant ask you. It has been my feeling for as long as I can remember that the physical act of making love is kind of a thanksgiving or Eucharist, a sacrament, and is as holy as the passion of the spirit and the passion of the open heart or service-oriented passions are. Does this idea show some distortion, and if so, in what way? What is the clear perception?

I am Q’uo, and am aware of your query, my sister. It is, to our best knowledge, true that the sexual energy exchanges offer the potential for the most sacred of worship as the two entities become one in seeking, one in experience, and one in expression of that which is sought and that which is experienced. However, for most entities, as is the case for most opportunities for such worship and serving, there is only the beginning movement into that which is truly sacred and that which gives the heartfelt praise and thanksgiving that is possible to give within [this] type of energy exchange, and expression of this exchange. Thus, again, we have the intention, the purity of intention, being the primary factor in determining whether such an experience, or any experience, shall provide the sincere and sacred joy and praise to the one Creator.

Q`uo Wrote:The other way that you can open this energy center is by coming to grips with the sexuality with which this physical vehicle was supplied. Gaze at experience and come into ever closer awareness of the sacramental nature of this energy. That which is called sexuality is only the surface expression of that driving force which has created the densities. It is as though each of you had within the self a port upon the ocean of eternity, for through the physical vehicle of woman flows the ocean of life and to its shores come each male energy to enter and know infinite love, infinite energy and the miracle of birth from the forever into the now. And to the male has been given that driving enthusiasm that is manifested in that seed which is fertile and which takes hold and offers life within the ocean.

And male and female, energy and energy, come together and flow into each other and create all the polarities, all the densities, all that you can think of. All polarity has its first expression in red ray, so whether you express this energy or are celibate, it does not matter, for if you know and respect the goodness of that basic energy it will well up within as the never-failing spring, always life giving, always life enhancing.

Q`uo Wrote:It was intended by the Creator that sexuality had the potential of offering to third-density entities an experience of the steady state of the Creator, which would be described by third density entities as orgasm. This is the steady state of the universe. This is the power of unconditional love. This is the engine that drives creation. This is the sunlight that falls upon you. It too, is the fusion of the priest and the priestess expressing unconditional love in a steady state.

As a priest and priestess who are mated become more experienced, each with the other, there begin to be refinements on the art of touching, on the nuances of intimacy, so that each can bring the other very close to the point of orgasm and then remain there, playing with that energy, fueling it, playing again, and fueling again, and not feeling the need to move to orgasm.
We believe this is what the one known as Jim had in mind when he spoke of prolonging foreplay, and this is certainly the major part of being able to move up in orders of magnitude, in terms of the brilliance and the power of the energy exchange involved.

However, it is never to be forgotten that all of the energy centers are involved in sacred sexuality. One cannot play in the fields of the Lord if one does not have the lower chakras running well, glad and free and open and accepting of life and all that it offers.

It is indeed so that when both entities, the priest and the priestess, have consciously dedicated their lives to the service of the one infinite Creator, this doubles the power available to each. This is according to the way of doubling or squares. As in many other kinds of energies, when there are two who together seek, the power of that seeking is doubled.

And we would certainly agree with the one known as Jim that when there is a simultaneous orgasm between the priest and the priestess, the energy exchange is at its most brilliant, focused and collected. It is certainly the most lucid way to experience the fusion of self with self and self with Creator.

Yet, at the same time, we would note that it is possible to have a powerful energy exchange without orgasm, simply because of the intention of the mated pair and their dedication of the time of pleasure and feeling good to the service of the one infinite Creator. There are many among your people who have been well mated and who no longer are able to share the sexuality in the way of their youth. This in no way inhibits their ability to exchange sexual energy, to make each other feel good, and to have sacred play.

Sacred sexuality begins with a person’s willingness to become magical. To be able to experience sacred sexuality, a seeker must release those thoughts of himself which limit him. He must find it within himself to accept himself just as he is and to fall in love with himself, casting aside all thought of self-improvement or self judgment. The beginning of the seeker’s transition to the magical personality is his total acceptance of himself as he is.


We believe that this is perhaps the critical difficulty with sacred sexuality and is that limiting factor which keeps many from experiencing the full freedom and beauty of sacred sexuality.


Think of yourself not as you see yourself in the mirror but as you feel yourself when you pray for what you most dearly wish. See yourself not as a physical being but as a dreamer, a hoper, a lover of the light, an idealist. See those energies of intention that have nothing to do with the manifestations of the world. This is the beginning of the magical personality: to perceive yourself more truly than you can with the mirrors of the world.

And finally, we would note the impossibility of creating sacred sexuality without context. Such has often been attempted by those who would like to take a shortcut and who perhaps are unable to sustain a committed personal relationship for the length of time that it takes to establish a safe haven where two can trust that they shall not be harmed. Many are those who have attempted to create sacred sexuality by the use of objects, such as prostitutes, where all of the work of the magician is done by one entity in solitude, using the object in order to express the actual sexual energy. This shall never become true sacred sexuality, for there is no energy exchange.

In higher densities this shall be much clearer, for in higher densities entities exchange the dynamic between them upon meeting and so experience a kind of orgasm simply by shaking hands and saying hello, shall we say. There is nothing hidden or shameful. All energies are accepted as clean and beautiful. So entities dwell in an atmosphere of the exchanging of energies at all times.

You who dwell within the veil do not have that luxury. And so, in order to become able to practice as priest and priestess in sacred sexuality, you must create with another that safe place that enables trust and faith to reign supreme. How precious such a relationship is and how much it has to offer!

(04-30-2021, 12:36 PM)Bliss Wrote: I can pipe in... Suzanna here.

I would be delighted to plumb the depths of the spiritual implications and effects of this experience on my life.  I'm happy to answer any specific questions you may have.  I'm actually trying to process this more as we speak.  It's been a challenge because of my relative isolation with this experience, as well as the challenges of our limited language to express ineffable experiences.  I think a round table discussion almost entirely on the spiritual understanding of something like this is a great idea.

(05-08-2021, 04:15 AM)Sacred Fool Wrote:  


Think of yourself not as you see yourself in the mirror but as you feel yourself when you pray for what you most dearly wish. See yourself not as a physical being but as a dreamer, a hoper, a lover of the light, an idealist. See those energies of intention that have nothing to do with the manifestations of the world. This is the beginning of the magical personality: to perceive yourself more truly than you can with the mirrors of the world.