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RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-01-2021

@Sena I found it interesting that Blavatsky described the solar logos, similar to Ra in the Law of One.

Quote:"In discussing the Gnostic view that the God Ildabaoth is said to be inferior to Anthropos and the Son of Anthropos, Blavatsky states that “This is a good proof that there were three Logoi (besides the Seven born of the First), one of these being the Solar Logos” (SD I:449)." -

RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-01-2021

Not only is concern about money a form of love of money, it's also service-to-self! Because if I'm concerned about having enough money as a separate individual it's a form of struggle against the wholeness of life, and it will also inevitably lead to conflict and friction between me and other people who also are concerned about securing their money, and it becomes a service-to-self struggle to get enough money.

Jesus talked about how we cannot serve both God and money. Then what happens if we don't care about money? Isn't that irresponsible and will lead to our own and in many cases even other people's poverty? Well, amazingly, Jesus has an answer about that too:

Quote:"Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothes? Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? Can any one of you by worrying add a single hour to your life?

And why do you worry about clothes? See how the flowers of the field grow. They do not labor or spin. Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you—you of little faith? So do not worry, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well." - Matthew 6:25-33

To seek the kingdom of God (which is within us [Luke 17]) I take as meaning being aligned with the wholeness of life, to recognize the Infinite Creator in action in everything. And "pagans" I interpret as the beast stream.

RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-01-2021

The green-ray activation needed for an STO SMC also affects the body:

Quote:"Ra: I am Ra. ... The green-ray body is that body which may be seen in séance when what you call ectoplasm is furnished. This is a lighter body packed more densely with life. You may call this the astral body following some other teachings. Others have called this same body the etheric body. However, this is not correct in the sense that the etheric body is that body of gateway wherein intelligent energy is able to mold the mind/body/spirit complex." - Law of One 47.8

What the heck is an astral body? Although I have heard the term I have no clue yet what it is. I found this video by Gigi Young that may explain it:

RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-01-2021

Oh, my, Gigi's information about the astral body was a bit too complicated for me. Interestingly though she said that the astral body is related to pure cosmic information and needs a pure heart chakra. That's very similar to Ra calling it the green-ray body! (The green-ray center can be compared to the heart chakra.)

I also found this Rudolf Steiner video about the astral body:

RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-01-2021

I now came up with a simplified explanation of the astral body. The human nervous system deals with dualities, and is even divided into a left and a right side. The heart and the cardiovascular system is a unity. And the heart chakra is the energy center for the heart and unity.

In the beast stream we experience our physical human body as a separate object. Yet even mainstream science admits that there are no actual isolated systems in reality. A more correct view is therefore that the physical human body is a part of, and one with, the entire solar system (and ultimately with the whole universe and beyond).

The solar stream, then, is the experience of the human body as a part of the entire solar system, not separate from it. That's what I now call the astral body. And the name "astral" is appropriate since it means star and our sun is our star. Green-ray activation is therefore as I see it the shift into experiencing the body as one with the solar system, both mentally and also through an actual heart feeling/consciousness.

RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-01-2021

Rudolf Steiner has a lot of information about the astral body. I even found this video directly related to the heart connection:

That sounds like something useful for understanding more about the green-ray activation. And I will call it the solar body instead of astral body to avoid clashing with different definitions. The solar body is simply the entire solar system experienced in consciousness. And each person has his or her own unique view of the one and same solar system. This includes both the material reality, such as one's own physical body and the outside world, and all the subtler realms that may exist.

RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-01-2021

To simplify it, my current guess is that the separation we experience in the beast stream is because of fear in the heart. Ra has a related explanation:

Quote:"Ra: I am Ra. ... the green-ray activation is always vulnerable to ... Fear of possession, desire for possession, fear of being possessed, desire to be possessed: these are the distortions which will cause the deactivation of green-ray energy transfer." - Law of One 32.14

All that fear Ra described can I believe be combined into a fear in the heart center. And what is the root cause of that fear? Is it fear of death? Well, my idea is that it's BOTH fear of death AND fear of living forever. And that produces total confusion and total panic. Usually subconscious and with a disconnected heart, so that the total panic-confusion is hidden from our conscious awareness.

The solar body removes that root fear since it's a wholeness. The fear of possession Ra talked about is removed, for possession depends on the experience of separation. No separation, no possession. The law is One.

RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-01-2021

Since the solar body is the whole solar system it includes the other planets, including Venus which Ra comes from. My guess is that there is still a civilization living on Venus! And actually, what needs to happen to fully form the solar body is a merging of our civilization with the one on Venus. That I believe is what Jesus meant by (paraphrasing): "I will integrate the STO social memory complex on earth (the victorious one) with the STO SMC on Venus (the morning star)" [Revelation 2]

So, then, will the Venusians land on the White House lawn in spaceships? No, the Venusians as I understand it already have human avatars living on earth. So they will simply "incarnate/resurrect" from Venus into the human avatars on earth.

RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-01-2021

People still living on Venus? Yes, even Ra hinted at that it seems to me:

Quote:"Questioner: Then you… Would it be possible to take one of the people at that time from our planet and place him on Venus? Would he survive? Were conditions much [inaudible]?

Ra: The third-density conditions are not hospitable to the life-forms of your peoples. The fifth and sixth dimensions of that planetary sphere are quite conducive to growing/learning/teaching." - Law of One 6.6

Then what about Venusian avatars walking around on earth? Ra confirms that too I believe:

Quote:"Questioner: The photographs of the bell-shaped craft and reports of contact from Venus [exist from] less than thirty years ago. Do you have any knowledge of these reports?

Ra: I am Ra. We have knowledge of Oneness with these forays of your time/space present. We are no longer of Venus. However, there are thought-forms created among your peoples from our time of walking among you. The memory and thought-forms created therefrom are a part of your society-memory complex. This mass consciousness, as you may call it, creates the experience once more for those who request such experience. The present Venus population is no longer sixth-density." - Law of One 6.23

RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-03-2021

I disagree with Aaron Abke about time (I see time as the eternal present moment always moving forward), but I basically agree with his view of service-to-others in this video. STO is the path of oneness, Aaron said. Regarding the question about angels I think of it as in the Bible that we will become LIKE angels, but not that we will become angels. Regarding our higher self essentially being our future self as Aaron said, that is correct according to Ra as I understand it.

Quote:"Jesus replied, “You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven." - Matthew 22:29-30

Another thing Aaron mentioned that I think is correct is that infringement of free will means breaching of personal integrity. Aaron said in this other video that a very advanced consciousness can see at what level a person is at and give information based on that. To give too much information prematurely can stunt the person's spiritual growth, and Ra is very aware of that, Aaron said. So free will can be extremely important at one stage of development, and then in higher stages new perspectives emerge. This is how I for example make the Law of One compatible with nonduality (and Aaron teaches both nonduality and the Law of One).

RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-03-2021

I noticed something peculiar which is that fear seems to have its source in the heart center. There can be worry in the guts and things like that but fear I noticed recently, only comes from the heart center! I'm not entirely sure yet and will examine it some more and just wanted to document my finding here for further investigation.

RE: Developing a social memory complex - Patrick - 06-03-2021

(06-03-2021, 02:34 AM)Anders Wrote: I noticed something peculiar which is that fear seems to have its source in the heart center. There can be worry in the guts and things like that but fear I noticed recently, only comes from the heart center! I'm not entirely sure yet and will examine it some more and just wanted to document my finding here for further investigation.

Fear contracts the heart chakra. That is how I experience it as well. But nowadays I mostly witness this effect instead of truly being "affected" by it. This way the heart expands once more and much faster. The fear is basically accepted and filled with light/love while in the heart.

RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-03-2021

I'm still unsure about what the astral body is. What I call the solar body seems to be more than the astral body. The solar body is the entire solar system! Including physical matter and energy. And including subtler bodies such as the astral body and the five koshas in Vedantic philosophy.

And it's even simpler than that. According to Ra reality is a thought-form produced by logoi. So the solar body is our sun's logos manifested in consciousness. The advantage with this simple view is that it shows the oneness of reality, including the oneness of our own self.

Fear is then a result of a mistaken view of separation. The almost funny thing is that fear is reality being afraid of itself. Haha. And third density is an experience of separation including lots of fear. An STO social memory complex reduces or even removes the fear by being a more whole and unified state.

RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-03-2021

Ra called our reality an illusion. My new radical idea is that the solar body is less of an illusion. Instead of experiencing oneself as a separate human body, when the solar body is recognized then we become the whole solar system! Still with a physical human body, yet the human body is then experienced as a part of the solar body, not as something separate from it.

So what's so radical about that? Take death for example. How can you die when you are the solar body? You can't! Not only that, with a solar body your home is not planet Earth or even the solar system, for you the ARE the entire solar system. Your new home is then the Milky Way galaxy. And then in higher densities (fifth density I think) we become a galactic body, in our case the whole Milky Way galaxy.

RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-03-2021

Actually Ra has already described what I call the solar body. And maybe it even was this that gave me the idea in the first place:

Quote:"Questioner: Then we deal with an entity that has not yet formed a social memory but is yet an entity just as one of us can be called a single entity. Can we continue this observation of the, shall I say, conglomerate entity through the galactic entity, or shall I say, small planetary system type of— Let me try to phrase it this way. Could I look at a single sun in its planetary system as an entity and then look at a major galaxy with its billions of stars as an entity? Can I continue this extrapolation in this way?

Ra: I am Ra. You can but not within the framework of third-density space/time.

Let us attempt to speak upon this interesting subject. In your space/time you and your peoples are the parents of that which is in the womb. The Earth, as you call it, is ready to be born and the delivery is not going smoothly. When this entity has become born it will be instinct with the social memory complex of its parents which have become fourth-density positive. In this density there is a broader view.

You may begin to see your relationship to the Logos or sun with which you are most intimately associated. This is not the relationship of parent to child but of Creator, that is Logos, to Creator that is the mind/body/spirit complex, as Logos. When this realization occurs you may then widen the field of “eyeshot,” if you will, infinitely recognizing parts of the Logos throughout the one infinite creation and feeling, with the roots of Mind informing the intuition, the parents aiding their planets in evolution in reaches vast and unknown in the creation, for this process occurs many, many times in the evolution of the creation as an whole." - Law of One 65.17

Densities are a fundamental concept in the Law of One and so are logoi. And to overlook the connection between logoi and densities may be a form of spiritual bypassing. For example, thinking of densities as some form of separate astral realms I suspect is an error. Instead I think of physical and spiritual reality as one unity and it's just that our material world is limited at the moment by a third density veil.

RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-04-2021

I believe Gigi Young has correct information about a lot of the things I'm posting about here. And she said in this recent video that planet Venus steps down and turns the energy from the sun into a spectrum that we on earth can use. So instead of getting information directly from the sun it may be necessary for us here on earth, at least at this stage of third density, to connect with Venus. I'm not sure yet how to connect with Venus and will listen to this this presentation again to get more clues:

RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-04-2021

I have changed my mind. Instead of us humans trying to develop a third density STO SMC it now seems to me that the Venusians need to be involved from the very beginning. The Venusians as I understand it from Gigi are those who can bring down the higher vibrations from the sun down to earth.

Then what if Gigi is wrong about that? Well, I trust her information about it more than my own speculations at the moment. And Ra gives only scant information about third density SMCs. So I will have to take a leap of trust/faith and examine if there are any concrete results coming from that. Or to see if I can find confirmations in the Q'uo material etc.

RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-04-2021

Gigi mentioned the need for awakening the kundalini energy and how Venus is related to the north pole on earth. Ra also mentioned the north pole in relation to the kundalini!

Quote:Questioner: What process would be the recommended process for correctly awakening, as they say, the kundalini and of what value would that be?

Ra: I am Ra. The metaphor of the coiled serpent being called upwards is vastly appropriate for consideration by your peoples. This is what you are attempting when you seek. There are, as we have stated, great misapprehensions concerning this metaphor and the nature of pursuing its goal. We must generalize and ask that you grasp the fact that this in effect renders far less useful that which we share. However, as each entity is unique, generalities are our lot when communicating for your possible edification.

We have two types of energy. We are attempting then, as entities in any true color of this octave, to move the meeting place of inner and outer natures further and further along or upward along the energy centers. The two methods of approaching this with sensible method are first, the seating within one’s self of those experiences which are attracted to the entity through the south pole. Each experience will need to be observed, experienced, balanced, accepted, and seated within the individual. As the entity grows in self-acceptance and awareness of catalyst the location of the comfortable seating of these experiences will rise to the new true-color entity. The experience, whatever it may be, will be seated in red ray and considered as to its survival content and so forth.

Each experience will be sequentially understood by the growing and seeking mind/body/spirit complex in terms of survival, then in terms of personal identity, then in terms of social relations, then in terms of universal love, then in terms of how the experience may beget free communication, then in terms of how the experience may be linked to universal energies, and finally in terms of the sacramental nature of each experience.

Meanwhile the Creator lies within. In the north pole the crown is already upon the head and the entity is potentially a god. This energy is brought into being by the humble and trusting acceptance of this energy through meditation and contemplation of the self and of the Creator.

Where these energies meet is where the serpent will have achieved its height. When this uncoiled energy approaches universal love and radiant being the entity is in a state whereby the harvestability of the entity comes nigh." - Law of One 49.6

My interpretation is that Venusians can guide us humans on earth towards rising our kundalini. And in addition to green-ray activation there also needs to be a pull of kundalini energy from our lower chakras and up into the higher chakras. And Ra saying that the crown is already on the north pole means as I interpret it that the pull needed already exists on earth (the planet itself is already in fourth density).

RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-04-2021

I recently learned about the term "spiritual bypassing" which basically means escaping the material world through spiritual fantasies. After listening a bit to Rudolf Steiner lectures I came to think of the opposite of that: material bypassing! Steiner said that humanity today is still in the mineral kingdom, not even having reached the plant kingdom yet. He explained it by saying that scientists today believe that lifeforms are the same as minerals, that by simply arranging atoms in a certain way scientists believe they can create lifeforms.

Material bypassing, then, is the clinging onto the belief that everything is material. That certainly explains why Ra called our reality an illusion. Because if the true reality includes spirituality, and even Intelligent Infinity, then the mainstream view in society today is a shallow surface experience of reality as being only made of non-intelligent clunky physical matter and energy.

RE: Developing a social memory complex - flofrog - 06-04-2021

Rudolph Steiner made many interesting philosophical pathways, but he passed away in 1925. It would be curious to see his take on humanity today.

RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-04-2021

(06-04-2021, 03:08 PM)flofrog Wrote: Rudolph Steiner made many interesting philosophical pathways,  but he passed away in 1925. It would be curious to see his take on humanity today.

Ra in the Law of One is similar to Steiner's teachings (although I have only listened to a few of his lectures so I don't know his full teaching). And Gigi Young uses a lot of Steiner's teachings and she has modernized it! So I guess Gigi has like a contemporary Steiner perspective.

RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-04-2021

Esoteric information is often veiled and Rudolf Steiner said that it was on purpose, sometimes with one term meaning different things in different places, so that only those initiated could understand it. Even Ra gave an example somewhere of veiled knowledge. And of course the term Law of Confusion is a lot about such veiling process I believe.

One clear example I noticed is that Steiner was very quiet about Venus, while Gigi talks a lot about Venus. Is that a contradiction? No, I don't think so. Instead it was probably that in Steiner's days people weren't ready yet to learn about Venus' connection to earth, while today we are ready to learn more about it.

RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-05-2021

There is a tendency in society to think of spirituality as childish fantasies, and of the mainstream material world as serious and important. It's true that some spiritual teachings can appear childish, but there are two (at least) things that the mainstream atheists overlook: 1) their own material bypassing and 2) the fact that spiritual teachings are often esoteric and need to be interpreted correctly to reveal the true meaning.

By material bypassing I mean what I mentioned in a previous post, that mainstream society clings to a shallow material surface and non-intelligent view of reality. I myself had that view pretty much previously. Now it occurred to me that it's the mainstream view that is childish and cartoonish! What is needed is to start looking at spiritual teachings such the Ra material and reconnect with the spiritual in life. Religions can be useful too but there is a danger of getting stuck in lukewarm versions of the main religions which have become very much stuck in material bypassing themselves.

RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-05-2021

There is also another reson for why to make spiritual teachings look childish, inconsistent and as fantasies. It makes them able to fly under the mainstream radar. If the mainstream society would take it seriously, the spiritual teachings would become a huge threat to the material power structures of the world.

RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-05-2021

Oh! It's actually the materialistic worldview that is vulnerable and fragile. The spiritual view, when aligned with truth, is the robust and invulnerable foundation.

This almost funnily means that one needs to treat the mainstream view with care instead of trying to fight it. Our material progress is equally important as spiritual progress. It's just that when we become stuck in only a materialistic view it becomes problematic.

RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-05-2021

Ra said that when the green-ray is activated then the blue-ray immediately becomes available. In a service-to-others social memory complex we will interact with each other without fear (because it's one single collective organism). And this includes the blue-ray which is about communication. Ra said:

Quote:"Ra: I am Ra. ... The blue-ray energy transfer is somewhat rare among your people at this time but is of great aid due to energy transfers involved in becoming able to express the self without reservation or fear." - Law of One 26.38

That's a useful "litmus test" for determining how close to an STO SMC one is. I myself still feel a lot of fear including when interacting with others, so I'm then according to this litmus test not ready yet for an STO SMC. Being aware of the fear in oneself can be used for aligning one's "compass" towards love.

RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-05-2021

THE STAND 121 has very advanced esoteric teachings, a bit over my head, but I have learned new knowledge from that channel. They sometimes mention the Law of One. And in this video Carrie talks about "We Are" instead of "I Am" and about disorder. Sounds like social memory complex and spiritual entropy.

RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-05-2021

I discovered that I serve money subconsciously. That produces enormous amounts of spiritual entropy. And I realized that everybody in the beast stream serve money subconsciously.

Leo Gura has talked about content vs structure. That's a useful distinction. For example my personal memories are content, while structure in this case is human memory. This means that the structure of serving money subconsciously is the same for everybody! And that it's a shared tension caused by an artificial separation.

RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-06-2021

Now I finally found Rudolf Steiner talking about Venus. In this video about the moon! And with extremely cryptic explanations. Including a lot of references to the human body. The movement of the blood has some spiritual significance. I haven't figured out what purpose the blood has yet.

RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 06-06-2021

I didn't find much about blood from Ra or Q'uo when I did a quick search. Steiner said that blood is the most flexible material in the body, and it's through the blood spirit informs matter and Lucifer has confused our blood in our fallen state (third density). Something like that.

That made me think that Holy Blood, sangreal, "royal blood" and the Holy Grail represent a restoration of our blood into unity with spirit. What I find interesting is that it makes it possible that it's spirit that creates the shape of matter. Jesus talked about being born again through water and Spirit. Could mean that the water in the blood becomes infused with spirit.