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RE: Developing a social memory complex - Patrick - 05-10-2021
(05-10-2021, 11:33 AM)Anders Wrote: Something that spooked me out is that Ra first called our solar system a galaxy! I was thinking that Ra hardly makes mistakes like that. And Ra repeated later that they call the solar system a galaxy. So is there some kind of fractal shift that will happen?
Oh, wait a minute! Maybe Ra is hinting that their teaching is meant to be taken at a fractal step down. And that the sun beings that Gigi Young talked about, that's Ra! So Ra is then a step closer to earth than it appears at first.
I think of our sun as the larger logos for the earth sphere and the Venus sphere Gigi talked about. When the earth sphere and the Venus sphere merge they will be aligned with the sun logos. Something like that.
This has always meant to me that solar systems and galaxies are not what we think.
The picture our modern consensus has made of these things are not really showing what these things actually are.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Black Dragon - 05-10-2021
(05-10-2021, 10:55 AM)Anders Wrote:(05-10-2021, 10:26 AM)Ymarsakar Wrote: Orion is actually much "lower" on the ranking totem pole,
I think Orion is a Law of Confusion term, but yes there can be different levels of the Antichrist stream. The more fear the more spiritual entropy. I heard a banker describing how during his career he had so much fear that he felt like being inside a nuclear bomb bunker. And he had enormous hatred for humanity. And he rose in the ranks until one day he was invited to a ceremony with child sacrifice and he couldn't take it anymore.
Still, all of our ordinary society is the Antrichrist stream, our fallen world. So it's useful to recognize that oneself is trapped in the Antichrist timeline. The Christ stream is that of peace, love and power through resonance, not power-over (that's the Antichrist stream).
Orion is a law of confusion term indeed. What the material is explaining is crusader pirates that are not of a very high level. They are in a minority within the Orion constellation. The dirty secret is there is no big, dark, successful empire in the Orion region anymore. Not for a long time. We used to have an infestation of high level bads controlling everything like this solar system does. Used to
. Well, to be more accurate about the Sol system I'd say the bads no longer have the control they used to, and are hanging on by a thread and thrashing violently.So the material introduces the high level Venusian allies, and the low level Orion thugs. It does not explain the high level Orion Allies aiding Earth's liberation and ascension, nor does it explain the high level Venusian thugs that oppress the Sol system here. Maybe simply because nobody bothered to ask. Or maybe classified, time sensitive, or for our own free will to find the answers.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Black Dragon - 05-10-2021
Here's another law of confusion in the material I'll make easy for anyone curious about Yeshua/Jesus. It is easy to read the Confederation material and come to the conclusion that this being is simply an exceptionally competent 5d STO wanderer. In some ways, in what we'd call linear present timestream, that is where his avatar is at in what we perceive as the octave relative to us. Almost another beggar's robe glamour from a non-linear perspective. So it's easy to relegate him and his teachings to second-class status when one has the LOO and other confederation material. Even easier if you find out in this same "linear" standpoint you are 6d(albeit in a 3d avatar). I'd recommend taking a second look. It's immeasurably worth it.
He is a big part of the only reason we have a chance of things not ending horrible this time, where other historical Earth civs guided by 6d star beings failed. Every trustworthy source of et contact material I've read, and the feeling I get from my SMC, is that he is known and revered by many star races all the way from 3-6d. Not just the Christ energy, there is that, but also Yeshua the Earth Christ. His story is legend.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 05-10-2021
Is the Christ stream in combat with the Antichrist stream? I realized that, no, the law is One. This means that there actually is only one stream. So instead it must be the Veil that makes it appear as if they are two separate streams.
And this means that there must also be only one stream within oneself. So I will change my practice of separating body-mind tensions from heart awareness into a single stream practice. I will try surrender! The ego hates surrender, haha. The ego surrendering is also a false division since the ego is also a part of the one stream. There is however a division experienced by the ego, so surrendering that division is to surrender an illusion.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Black Dragon - 05-10-2021
(05-10-2021, 12:49 PM)Anders Wrote: Is the Christ stream in combat with the Antichrist stream? I realized that, no, the law is One. This means that there actually is only one stream. So instead it must be the Veil that makes it appear as if they are two separate streams.
And this means that there must also be only one stream within oneself. So I will change my practice of separating body-mind tensions from heart awareness into a single stream practice. I will try surrender! The ego hates surrender, haha. The ego surrendering is also a false division since the ego is also a part of the one stream. There is however a division experienced by the ego, so surrendering that division is to surrender an illusion.
Interesting. Seems to indicate high level alchemical integration. Not sure proponents of the Anitchrist Stream want to picture that at all....which makes it a pretty effective visualization.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Ymarsakar - 05-10-2021
"Is the Christ stream in combat with the Antichrist stream? "
4d neg is in combat with 4d positive. One is organic, the other is like the Borg, cyborg nano machine "boosted", immortality via machine neural implants and uploading your consciousness to the "cloud" controlled by Tech Tyrants.
At the higher level, Iamraw, Heyl-el,Michael, yeshua are buddies playing an rpg game. Somebody has to be the antagonist. Someone has to be the Dungeon Master, and set up obstacles for the player's avatar. Every one below them, thinks it is more serious, although from a certain C of Saturn pov, it is serious.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Ymarsakar - 05-10-2021
(05-10-2021, 12:49 PM)Anders Wrote: Is the Christ stream in combat with the Antichrist stream? I realized that, no, the law is One. This means that there actually is only one stream. So instead it must be the Veil that makes it appear as if they are two separate streams.
And this means that there must also be only one stream within oneself. So I will change my practice of separating body-mind tensions from heart awareness into a single stream practice. I will try surrender! The ego hates surrender, haha. The ego surrendering is also a false division since the ego is also a part of the one stream. There is however a division experienced by the ego, so surrendering that division is to surrender an illusion.
See, now that's channeled/semi automatic writing info.
I Like the Chosen tv series. Which can be viewed for free here. https://watch.angelstudios.com/thechosen/watch?ap=true\
It gives a much truer vision of Yeshua or Yehoshua or YH Shin VH than the ancient translated texts edited by humans have.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Doomchief - 05-10-2021
Funny enough I think "Black Jesus" is pretty spot on in terms of unconditional love.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Patrick - 05-10-2021
(05-10-2021, 12:03 PM)Black Dragon Wrote: Here's another law of confusion in the material I'll make easy for anyone curious about Yeshua/Jesus. It is easy to read the Confederation material and come to the conclusion that this being is simply an exceptionally competent 5d STO wanderer. In some ways, in what we'd call linear present timestream, that is where his avatar is at in what we perceive as the octave relative to us. Almost another beggar's robe glamour from a non-linear perspective. So it's easy to relegate him and his teachings to second-class status when one has the LOO and other confederation material. Even easier if you find out in this same "linear" standpoint you are 6d(albeit in a 3d avatar). I'd recommend taking a second look. It's immeasurably worth it.
He is a big part of the only reason we have a chance of things not ending horrible this time, where other historical Earth civs guided by 6d star beings failed. Every trustworthy source of et contact material I've read, and the feeling I get from my SMC, is that he is known and revered by many star races all the way from 3-6d. Not just the Christ energy, there is that, but also Yeshua the Earth Christ. His story is legend.
https://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/1986/1986_1214.aspx
Quote:...In the end, Jesus the man became so able to bear both joy and agony that this entity stopped experiencing the Creator and for long periods of time became the Creator experiencing third density. Such is the perfect channeling of love. The achievement of the perfect channeling was the mystery of union between Creator and illusion...
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Louisabell - 05-10-2021
Awesome quote Patrick... "the perfect channelling of love ... the mystery of union between Creator and the illusion..." Love it
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Patrick - 05-10-2021
(05-10-2021, 08:12 PM)Louisabell Wrote: Awesome quote Patrick... "the perfect channelling of love ... the mystery of union between Creator and the illusion..." Love it
The sort of story/inspiration that can spawn a whole religion !
But this also means that the experience of the Creator experiencing third density is actually available in our Akashic records. That is not a small thing in my opinion.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Louisabell - 05-10-2021
(05-10-2021, 08:49 PM)Patrick Wrote: But this also means that the experience of the Creator experiencing third density is actually available in our Akashic records. That is not a small thing in my opinion.
Oooh! Nice point. I didn't think of it that way. We are truly blessed here, being us (bozo) humans. Man, I am looking forward to gaining access to Earth's social memory! Maybe not in this life... or the next ... or the next ... but one day, yes definitely one day.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 05-11-2021
Why did Jesus tell us to turn the other cheek if someone slaps us? I think it's a message about being peaceful. This is tricky, because in a violent world being peaceful can easily mean being destroyed. A service-to-others social memory complex is obviously peaceful within its own being. And interacting with violent people must be done in a way that preserves peace. So the SMC will either avoid interacting with the ordinary third density world, or have other means to prevent conflict.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - flofrog - 05-11-2021
Definitely about being peaceful Anders, buddhist non violence represents a similar attitude when they speak about the respect and sacred pace of each being. But you never know if it will lead to being destroyed as the peaceful attitude of one may bring miraculous change,
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 05-11-2021
Aha, Gigi Young confirmed that we can connect with Venus through the heart chakra. Scientists fairly recently discovered that Venus was once like earth, with inhabitable continents and oceans. I believe Venus is still like earth! And that it's cloaked to avoid interference and premature disclose for the third density population on earth.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 05-12-2021
Gigi Young said that earth is influenced by both Mars and Venus. Both are needed and will become integrated. Mars provides structure and Venus provides the wholeness connection. Too much Mars influence leads to things like transhumanism and too much Venus influence leads to a disconnect from structure like in Mu.
That made me think of how the tensions in the body-mind are actually structure, a Mars influence. And Venus is our heart awareness. What we have now in third density is too much structure and too little heart awareness. The balance then is to reduce the tensions and awaken the heart. So the tensions are actually useful! It's just that the tensions have become domanating due to lack of heart connection.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 05-12-2021
Gigi also said that willpower is important. And the risk with too much Venus influence is a denial of the material world and becoming too spiritual. So surrender then I take it should be the surrendering of excess tensions within oneself, and a balanced willpower needs to be preserved. And the surrender of excess tensions allows the heart to open up I theorize (speculate haha).
Maybe I should post the main source for this which is this video:
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 05-12-2021
And yet another thing Gigi said is that forcing people into communities before they are ready and have found their individuality and to lose themselves is the toxic and dark side of Venus influence. And it makes sense and explains why STO social memory complexes respect the individual without interfering. And Ra in the Law of One is very careful about preserving the individual aspect.
An STO SMC will then develop through ourselves becoming integrated (Mars-Venus balance) and then spiritual gravity will start to pull the SMC together.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 05-12-2021
When one peaceful consciousness joins with another peaceful consciousness, the combined result is peace. But when there is inner conflict in one person joining with the inner conflict of another person, there is agitation. If then billions of people join with agitation in their heart, how great is that agony?
So therefore, there needs to be peace within oneself for the ability of a united consciousness in the form of a service-to-others social memory complex to ignite.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Patrick - 05-12-2021
(05-12-2021, 08:28 AM)Anders Wrote: When one peaceful consciousness joins with another peaceful consciousness, the combined result is peace. But when there is inner conflict in one person joining with the inner conflict of another person, there is agitation. If then billions of people join with agitation in their heart, how great is that agony?
So therefore, there needs to be peace within oneself for the ability of a united consciousness in the form of a service-to-others social memory complex to ignite.
You're reaching higher than ever my friend !
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 05-12-2021
A speculative idea I got is that accessing the Akashic records on earth will miss the records of Venus. And accessing the Akashic records of Venus will miss the connection to earth. And the solution is to access the Akashic records of ..... the sun!
The sun unites all planets in our solar system resulting in a unified Akashic records aligned with the solar logos. This should resolve all the conflicts and friction in the Akashic records of the separate planets.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Doomchief - 05-12-2021
(05-12-2021, 09:44 AM)Anders Wrote: A speculative idea I got is that accessing the Akashic records on earth will miss the records of Venus. And accessing the Akashic records of Venus will miss the connection to earth. And the solution is to access the Akashic records of ..... the sun!We can continue this thought and meditate with the Sagittarius A* in the center of the Milky way is speaking in himan terms or with the Logos of our galaxy if speaking metaphysically
The sun unites all planets in our solar system resulting in a unified Akashic records aligned with the solar logos. This should resolve all the conflicts and friction in the Akashic records of the separate planets.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 05-12-2021
(05-12-2021, 10:11 AM)Doomchief Wrote: We can continue this thought and meditate with the Sagittarius A* in the center of the Milky way is speaking in himan terms or with the Logos of our galaxy if speaking metaphysically
Yes, the Milky Way galaxy is our larger logos. I even think of fourth density as solar system consciousness, fifth density as galactic consciousness and so on, although I don't know if Ra described it as that. For developing an STO SMC here on earth my guess is that it's enough to access the sun's Akashic records.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - flofrog - 05-12-2021
WHAT Anders, you want to uncover ALL the mysteries ?
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 05-12-2021
(05-12-2021, 12:47 PM)flofrog Wrote: WHAT Anders, you want to uncover ALL the mysteries ?
Total apocalypse! (Apocalypse means uncovering) Just kidding.
There must be a reason for why much of the esoteric information is obscured. And instead of struggling with trying find out answers I wait until ideas come more easily.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 05-12-2021
Nonduality teacher Ramesh Balsekar explained causality as a double-arrow going both from past and future. Ra has said something similar about how our future self produces causes in our current life, something like that. And then we can take the social memory complex as our future self! And look for hints about how the future SMC causes events in our current life.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 05-12-2021
The tree of the knowledge of good and evil represents spiritual entropy. And the Tree of Life represents the absence of spiritual entropy. This can be connected to the idea that excessive body-mind tensions (including the massive subconscious usually hidden tensions) therefore also are a manifestation of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
The excessive tensions represent evil by causing spiritual entropy, and represent good when they function as a catalyst for spiritual growth. One idea I have is that it's the excessive tensions themselves that are the yellow-ray blockage Ra talked about. Surrendering the excessive amount of tensions removes the spiritual entropy so that we can develop an STO SMC as a part of the Tree of Life. When spiritual entropy remains they prevent such SMC to develop because each individual's entropy is added within the collective.
Quote:"He said to me: “It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To the thirsty I will give water without cost from the spring of the water of life. Those who are victorious will inherit all this, and I will be their God and they will be my children. But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”" - Revelation 21:6-8
The spring of the water of life represents in my view the Tree of Life and absence of spiritual entropy. The fiery lake of burning sulfur represents spiritual entropy and the second death is the death of the STO SMC. This simply means that spiritual entropy prevents the necessary evolutionary leap. This can't happen since there is a spiritual pull into higher densities, so there is no actual second death.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - jafar - 05-13-2021
(05-12-2021, 09:44 AM)Anders Wrote: A speculative idea I got is that accessing the Akashic records on earth will miss the records of Venus. And accessing the Akashic records of Venus will miss the connection to earth. And the solution is to access the Akashic records of ..... the sun!
The sun unites all planets in our solar system resulting in a unified Akashic records aligned with the solar logos. This should resolve all the conflicts and friction in the Akashic records of the separate planets.
I actually do not see Akashic records and/or logos in 'hierarchical' manner.
It's more of 'entangled multi layered' graph network.
So instead of this:
https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S003132031630200X-gr3.jpg
It's more of like this:
https://miro.medium.com/max/628/1*KGngJpwr96caSQM9rEbQqw.png
There are the so called 'star seed'.
A consciousness initially evolved on another star system, experienced a physical body on another system.
There are also a consciousness initially evolved on another planet, experienced a physical body on another planet, within the same sun (or suns if it's binary or tertiary star system)
There are also a consciousness initially evolved on another galaxy, experienced a physical body on another planet in another galaxy.
Which actually makes me also wonder, where is Ra's physical body now?
They initially evolved on Venus and has a glimpse of physical experience on Earth as well.
And as we've understand now that the 'milky way galaxy' is the results of merging of many galaxies in the past.
As we speak, the milky way galaxy is on it's merging course with Andromeda galaxy.
https://youtu.be/_P1xKh_kZFU
Another easily referenceable metaphor will be a webforum avatar like Anders or jafar.
The shared logos of Anders and jafar is bring4th.org forum.
Yet the consciousness behind jafar and Anders also have many other avatars in many other webforum, thus each other webforum avatar have their own logos. By traversing this connection line between jafar (or Anders or any other webforum avatars here) and the consciousness behind jafar, jafar can find many other webforum avatars experiencing different realm provided by different logos which share the same (human) consciousness.
Bring4th.org is based on mybb forum, thus mybb forum is another logos which are connected to bring4th.org.
Through traversing this connection line, bring4th.org can find another logos which also use mybb forum. Every logos which are based on mybb forum share a great portion of similar characteristic. Although each of them are unique in their own way.
And so on, thus the connection is not strictly hierarchical in nature.
In computer graph network theory, the connection is labeled as "edges" and entity or node are called "vertices".
One can start on any entity / vertices and iteratively traverse through the edges to find the entirety of the graph network.
RE: Developing a social memory complex - Anders - 05-13-2021
(05-13-2021, 07:51 AM)jafar Wrote: I actually do not see Akashic records and/or logos in 'hierarchical' manner.
It's more of 'entangled multi layered' graph network.
So instead of this:
https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S003132031630200X-gr3.jpg
It's more of like this:
https://miro.medium.com/max/628/1*KGngJpwr96caSQM9rEbQqw.png
...
Which actually makes me also wonder, where is Ra's physical body now?
They initially evolved on Venus and has a glimpse of physical experience on Earth as well.
I was thinking of each Archaic record as being within each logos, but it might be a huge interconnected network of records as you wrote.
Regarding Ra I had a speculative idea that it's a social memory complex still existing on Venus. The problem with that is that Ra is 6th density, and Venus I assume is maybe not even 4th density yet because as Gigi Young said the earth consciousness will merge with Venus' consciousness. And that gave me a further speculative idea that Ra is a social memory complex Wanderer! Just like how Wanderers on earth usually are from 6th density, Ra could also be 6th density but still trapped within the Venus "sphere" as Gigi calls it, and here is a curious quote from Ra:
Quote:"I am Ra. I speak for the social memory complex termed Ra. We came among you to aid you. Our efforts in service were perverted. Our desire then is to eliminate as far as possible the distortions caused by those misreading our information and guidance. The general cause of service such as the Confederation offers is that of the primal distortion of the Law of One, which is service. The One Being of the creation is like unto a body, if you will accept this third-density analogy. Would we ignore a pain in the leg? A bruise upon the skin? A cut which is festering? No. There is no ignoring a call. We, the entities of sorrow, choose as our service the attempt to heal the sorrow which we are calling analogous to the pains of a physical body complex distortion." - Law of One 14.18
Ra describes their state as entities of sorrow. That's precisely the same description given to Wanderers on earth!
RE: Developing a social memory complex - flofrog - 05-13-2021
Anders, I think at some point Ra says that they do not live anymore on Venus as it is not inhabitable for the point where his SMC is now.
I shall look it up to see if my memory is ok...lol