Quote:6.23 Questioner: The photographs of the bell-shaped craft and reports of contact from Venus [exist from] less than thirty years ago. Do you have any knowledge of these reports?
Ra: I am Ra. We have knowledge of Oneness with these forays of your time/space present. We are no longer of Venus. However, there are thought-forms created among your peoples from our time of walking among you. The memory and thought-forms created therefrom are a part of your society-memory complex. This mass consciousness, as you may call it, creates the experience once more for those who request such experience. The present Venus population is no longer sixth-density.

(05-13-2021, 02:11 PM)flofrog Wrote: There is this passage Anders,

Quote:6.23 Questioner: The photographs of the bell-shaped craft and reports of contact from Venus [exist from] less than thirty years ago. Do you have any knowledge of these reports?
Ra: I am Ra. We have knowledge of Oneness with these forays of your time/space present. We are no longer of Venus. However, there are thought-forms created among your peoples from our time of walking among you. The memory and thought-forms created therefrom are a part of your society-memory complex. This mass consciousness, as you may call it, creates the experience once more for those who request such experience. The present Venus population is no longer sixth-density.

So Anders, there is the enigma of the present density of Venus now... in space/time of course... lol

Quote:6.6 Questioner: Then you… Would it be possible to take one of the people at that time from our planet and place him on Venus? Would he survive? Were conditions much [inaudible]?

Ra: The third-density conditions are not hospitable to the life-forms of your peoples. The fifth and sixth dimensions of that planetary sphere are quite conducive to growing/learning/teaching.

Quote:23.6 Questioner: I see. Then at this time you did not contact them. Can you tell me the same— answer the same questions I just asked with respect to your next attempt to contact the Egyptians?

Ra: I am Ra. The next attempt was prolonged. It occurred over a period of time. The nexus, or center, of our efforts was a decision upon our parts that there was a sufficient calling to attempt to walk among your peoples as brothers.

We laid this plan before the Council of Saturn, offering ourselves as service-oriented Wanderers of the type which land directly upon the inner planes without incarnative processes. Thus we emerged, or materialized, in physical-chemical complexes representing as closely as possible our natures, this effort being to appear as brothers and spend a limited amount of time as teachers of the Law of One, for there was an ever-stronger interest in the sun body, and this vibrates in concordance with our particular distortions.

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Quote:41.4 Questioner: In trying to build an understanding from the start, you might say, starting with intelligent infinity and getting to our present condition of being, I am having some difficulty, but I think I should go back and investigate our sun since it is the sub-Logos that creates all that we experience in this particular planetary system.

Will you give me a description of the sun, of our sun?

Ra: I am Ra. This is a query which is not easily answered in your language, for the sun has various aspects in relation to intelligent infinity, to intelligent energy, and to each density of each planet, as you call these spheres. Moreover, these differences extend into the metaphysical or time/space part of your creation.

In relationship to intelligent infinity, the sun body is, equally with all parts of the infinite creation, part of that infinity.

In relation to the potentiated intelligent infinity which makes use of intelligent energy, it is the offspring, shall we say, of the Logos for a much larger number of sub-Logoi. The relationship is hierarchical in that the sub-Logos uses the intelligent energy in ways set forth by the Logos and uses its free will to co-create the, shall we say, full nuances of your densities as you experience them.

In relationship to the densities, the sun body may physically, as you would say, be seen to be a large body of gaseous elements undergoing the processes of fusion and radiating heat and light.

Metaphysically, the sun achieves a meaning to fourth through seventh density according to the growing abilities of entities in these densities to grasp the living creation and co-entity, or other-self, nature of this sun body. Thus by the sixth density the sun may be visited and inhabited by those dwelling in time/space and may even be partially created from moment to moment by the processes of sixth-density entities in their evolution.

Quote:41.5 Questioner: In your last statement did you mean that the sixth-density entities are actually creating the manifestation of the sun in their density? Could you explain what you meant by that?

Ra: I am Ra. In this density some entities whose means of reproduction is fusion may choose to perform this portion of experience as part of the beingness of the sun body. Thus you may think of portions of the light that you receive as offspring of the generative expression of sixth-density love.

(05-13-2021, 08:07 AM)Anders Wrote:

(05-13-2021, 07:51 AM)jafar Wrote: I actually do not see Akashic records and/or logos in 'hierarchical' manner.
It's more of 'entangled multi layered' graph network.

So instead of this:
https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S003132031630200X-gr3.jpg
It's more of like this:
https://miro.medium.com/max/628/1*KGngJpwr96caSQM9rEbQqw.png
...
Which actually makes me also wonder, where is Ra's physical body now?
They initially evolved on Venus and has a glimpse of physical experience on Earth as well.

I was thinking of each Archaic record as being within each logos, but it might be a huge interconnected network of records as you wrote.

(05-13-2021, 02:11 PM)flofrog Wrote: There is this passage Anders,

Quote:6.23 Questioner: The photographs of the bell-shaped craft and reports of contact from Venus [exist from] less than thirty years ago. Do you have any knowledge of these reports?
Ra: I am Ra. We have knowledge of Oneness with these forays of your time/space present. We are no longer of Venus. However, there are thought-forms created among your peoples from our time of walking among you. The memory and thought-forms created therefrom are a part of your society-memory complex. This mass consciousness, as you may call it, creates the experience once more for those who request such experience. The present Venus population is no longer sixth-density.

So Anders, there is the enigma of the present density of Venus now... in space/time of course... lol

(05-13-2021, 03:14 PM)Black Dragon Wrote: Stars are definitely inhabitable by 6d beings. Obviously the gases, heat, and all that jazz are all on 3d. Not a problem for time/space astral bodies, and not a problem for space/time higher density bodies.

Quote:30.14 [...]

The planet known as Saturn has a great affinity for the infinite intelligence and thus it has been dwelled upon in its magnetic fields of time/space by those who wish to protect your system.
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(05-13-2021, 02:11 PM)flofrog Wrote: There is this passage Anders,

(05-13-2021, 03:11 PM)jafar Wrote: Start with any question and one shall find an answer. The answer will give birth to plethora of new questions... and the process will be iterative... an answer to a question will only give birth to additional new questions. The uncovering of a vertex by following any edge will only uncover additional edges to undiscovered vertices.

(05-13-2021, 03:40 PM)Anders Wrote:

(05-13-2021, 03:11 PM)jafar Wrote: Start with any question and one shall find an answer. The answer will give birth to plethora of new questions... and the process will be iterative... an answer to a question will only give birth to additional new questions. The uncovering of a vertex by following any edge will only uncover additional edges to undiscovered vertices.

That's a neat trick. So one can jump to one Akashic record, get some information, and based on that find a jumping connection to another Akashic record. And then repeat from the next Akashic record to a third and so on, and they can be located anywhere in the whole Akashic network. And there may be multiple jump paths for a particular information. For example if I want to find some particular information about Ra I can first access a piece of information from earth's Akashic record and then jump to Venus' based on that information, but there may also be a path to Mars' Akashic record, other solar systems and even in other galaxies.

I don't know if that's how it works but it seems doable.

(05-13-2021, 03:18 PM)Spaced Wrote:

(05-13-2021, 03:14 PM)Black Dragon Wrote: Stars are definitely inhabitable by 6d beings. Obviously the gases, heat, and all that jazz are all on 3d. Not a problem for time/space astral bodies, and not a problem for space/time higher density bodies.

Yeah definitely, Ra talks about how the magnetic fields of Saturn are where the council/guardians live and the Sun has way strong magnetic fields.

Quote:30.14 [...]

The planet known as Saturn has a great affinity for the infinite intelligence and thus it has been dwelled upon in its magnetic fields of time/space by those who wish to protect your system.
[...]

This idea of magnetic fields being related to higher densities appeals to me.

(05-13-2021, 03:11 PM)jafar Wrote: Yes that's my understanding, the consciousness of Ra and friends initially evolved in planet Venus, but not anymore.
And they have a 'manifestation' / experience of physical body / incarnation walking upon planet earth as well.
Thus he has experienced manifestation of (at least) 2 'logos', earth and venus.

Quote:90.17 Questioner: Is Ra familiar with the archetypical mind of some other Logos that is not the same as the one we experience?

Ra: I am Ra. There are entities of Ra which have served as far Wanderers to those of another Logos. The experience has been one which staggers the intellectual and intuitive capacities, for each Logos sets up an experiment enough at variance from all others that the subtleties of the archetypical mind of another Logos are most murky to the resonating mind, body, and spirit complexes of this Logos.

(05-13-2021, 06:13 PM)jafar Wrote: Thus in that dimension you and your other avatars will form a 'social memory complex', actually it has formed a 'social memory complex', given time dimension is 'virtual' in nature. Thus Past/Present/Future grammatical rules is becoming irrelevant.

Just like in Google / Bing / DDG search result, there are some links which due to some reason, yet out of your own free will, you decided not to click or traverse into. Then those are the vertices which is not yet within your "Social Memory Complex". But when you've traversed into it, then those vertices will be a part of your "Social Memory Complex".

(05-13-2021, 06:43 PM)Anders Wrote: That's a good point. Only a service-to-self social memory complex is a fixed and rigid structure. A STO SMC is more dynamic, and yes probably even fluid such as the temporary formation of sub-SMCs that form out of the individuals' intents, drawing information from past, present and future.

(05-13-2021, 11:32 PM)jafar Wrote: Thus can it be categorized as "Social Memory Complex"?
When not every memory / knowledge is openly shared?

Session 47
for when a group of mind/body/spirits becomes able to form a social memory complex, all experience of each entity is available to the whole of the complex.

(05-14-2021, 12:10 AM)Anders Wrote:

(05-13-2021, 11:32 PM)jafar Wrote: Thus can it be categorized as "Social Memory Complex"?
When not every memory / knowledge is openly shared?

Session 47
for when a group of mind/body/spirits becomes able to form a social memory complex, all experience of each entity is available to the whole of the complex.

My idea is that in an STO SMC there is a natural preservation of personal integrity. So members naturally refrain from accessing information that needs to be kept private even if they directly can access it. NOT out of fear but as a functioning of creation.

In an STS SMC the situation I imagine is totally different. There private information is protected from other members who would likely breach personal integrity if they had access to it.

If an SMC is one being, then why would a service-to-others SMC need privacy of information? My explanation is that even we in third density as separate individuals need to have knowledge known only to our higher self because if we would know it prematurely it would hinder our own progress.

(05-14-2021, 01:59 AM)jafar Wrote: I tend to have the same view as Mr Ra above, within an SMC there is no 'secret'.
In the same manner as jafar knew all the password of any other avatars in other realms.
Then it's merely a choice of the consciousness to use which 'personality' / 'avatar' within the complex to come 'forward'.

"For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open."
-- Luke 8:17

It's questionable whether STS Social Memory Complex exist.
When we define Social Memory Complex as all experience of each entity is available to the whole of the complex.

(05-14-2021, 01:59 AM)jafar Wrote: It's questionable whether STS Social Memory Complex exist.
When we define Social Memory Complex as all experience of each entity is available to the whole of the complex.

(05-14-2021, 02:34 AM)Anders Wrote:

(05-14-2021, 01:59 AM)jafar Wrote: It's questionable whether STS Social Memory Complex exist.
When we define Social Memory Complex as all experience of each entity is available to the whole of the complex.

An STS SMC is then for example people with brain interfaces plugged into a collective computer cloud. And since the heart chakra connection is still missing no matter how advanced the computer system gets, individuals will still be trapped in ego consciousness, hence service-to-self.

(05-14-2021, 10:10 AM)jafar Wrote: 1. Why the heck those two 5th density STO entities decided to switch polarity to STS?
2. For that they need to experience 3rd density again?
3. And they choose a majority STO planet to incarnate? (Ra's planet / Venus)

(05-14-2021, 10:10 AM)jafar Wrote: Traversing through this edge, it does give birth to a plethora of new questions for me.
1. Why the heck those two 5th density STO entities decided to switch polarity to STS?
2. For that they need to experience 3rd density again?
3. And they choose a majority STO planet to incarnate? (Ra's planet / Venus)

(05-14-2021, 12:58 PM)Anders Wrote: Aha! Aaron Abke gave a great explanation of service to others, which is that it's service without expecting something in return. It's not service in the form of a business deal or you-scratch-my-back strategies. That's service-to self.

His comparison of the Jedi and Sith in Star Wars I found a bit lacking. The Sith are selfish, they care only about themselves, while the Jedi are selfless, they care only about others. Aaron even showed the great scene from one of the Star Wars movies where this was explained. So what's the problem? The problem is that neither the Sith nor the Jedi have the balance of the Force. To only care about others misses the fact that oneself is also a part of the One.