(05-10-2021, 10:52 AM)sillypumpkins Wrote: as I was making breakfast this morning i was reflecting on a moment i experienced last year wherein i began to see very clearly that there was nothing to "get", that i was (and am) already complete, and that i am exactly where i need to be.

it is a strange one, as someone who identifies as a seeker, to realize that there really isn't anything to get or grasp about anything. realizing that was a bit of a weight off the shoulders, though, for sure!

(05-10-2021, 10:52 AM)sillypumpkins Wrote: as I was making breakfast this morning i was reflecting on a moment i experienced last year wherein i began to see very clearly that there was nothing to "get", that i was (and am) already complete, and that i am exactly where i need to be.

it is a strange one, as someone who identifies as a seeker, to realize that there really isn't anything to get or grasp about anything. realizing that was a bit of a weight off the shoulders, though, for sure!

(05-10-2021, 12:05 PM)Doomchief Wrote: The Creation is still in a sense like a Japanese rock garden where there's always something out of your sight. So the knowing of oneself is infinite.
If we're "complete" in space/time I suppose it would be natural to manifest purest love for our fellow humans which is a challenge even in the spiritually oriented community.
Is the veil fully lifted? Can the conscious mind see probability vortexes in the time/space? Does the conscious mind have access to every experience on the Earth plane? Is the travel by thought avalabe yet? For some entities the answer may be yes.
It's like performing on the highest level in sport overnight. You're likely to advance through practice to achieve that. So we becoming more of what we're looking for. Understanding that one is the Creator is a great step on a long journey to the One Who is All.
Life has always something to surprise with. There are relatively hard thoughts, hard choices to test our understanding. Are there mistakes? No. But we have to deal with the consequences of our free will.

(05-10-2021, 12:27 PM)Ming the Merciful Wrote: [The point is, live in the moment AS IT IS. It is complete.

(05-10-2021, 12:27 PM)Ming the Merciful Wrote: Then the question arises? If we are the manifestation of our own Reality, and we can change our Reality, (at will). In theory, if all "Lightworkers" worked on that level of thinking, collectively creating the "Brave New World"? There are other theories circulating on YouTube that we manifest our illusionary life. We are what we think, and our "Reality" reflects our thoughts. For example. For months I have ignored news on all TV channels and the Internet. I know nothing about the outside world. Last week on YouTube a topic arose about "Chemtrails". What Chemtrails, I have seen none for years, (or at least within my Reality). Are other people still experiencing Chemtrails in their Realities, while in my Reality, I am not. Have I completely removed Chemtrails from my Reality? The same applies to the pandemic. As far as I am concerned, the pandemic does not exist. That is a delusion purported by other people.The point is, live in the moment AS IT IS. It is complete.

(05-10-2021, 01:44 PM)Doomchief Wrote:

(05-10-2021, 12:27 PM)Ming the Merciful Wrote: Then the question arises? If we are the manifestation of our own Reality, and we can change our Reality, (at will). In theory, if all "Lightworkers" worked on that level of thinking, collectively creating the "Brave New World"? There are other theories circulating on YouTube that we manifest our illusionary life. We are what we think, and our "Reality" reflects our thoughts. For example. For months I have ignored news on all TV channels and the Internet. I know nothing about the outside world. Last week on YouTube a topic arose about "Chemtrails". What Chemtrails, I have seen none for years, (or at least within my Reality). Are other people still experiencing Chemtrails in their Realities, while in my Reality, I am not. Have I completely removed Chemtrails from my Reality? The same applies to the pandemic. As far as I am concerned, the pandemic does not exist. That is a delusion purported by other people.The point is, live in the moment AS IT IS. It is complete.

I think personal "reality" is like a bubble. Of thoughts, opinions, biases. And I'd like to withhold judgement of the relative quality of thoughts that occupy fellow humans now. Because the bubble can be popped from the inside. And each incarnation has opportunities for such an action carefully placed.
Once this is done the greater picture may be observed in which every moment contains everything that there is. The Infinite Love that has no boundaries. From this present moment we may manifest any experience.
If viewed for this position the consensus "reality" of planet Earth may change any moment. The possibility is ever present. The requirement, in my eyes, is raising the awareness of the Creation without the infringement upon the free will.
Being the example of such a change is a choice to make.

(05-10-2021, 02:30 PM)Doomchief Wrote: I'm not exactly sure that I AM is just an illusion. I feel the illusion is within the spirit and not the other way. So there's a sacred aspect to the nature of ones being.

(05-10-2021, 03:29 PM)flofrog Wrote: Lol Ming,in a way it’s the paradox of speaking about the “No Mind” in our 3D language

(05-10-2021, 04:42 PM)flofrog Wrote: Ming, I think the Ultimate Mystery is my blissful surge...

(05-10-2021, 05:11 PM)Ming the Merciful Wrote: The "Ultimate Bliss". Have you ever been in Still Mind Meditation, (and the total letting go), and you enter Bliss? There is a point where nothing exists, (within itself), and you are AT-ONE with everything and nothing? That is also the loss of the I AM, because your "Self" becomes unimportant, as you have entered Universal Consciousness.

(05-10-2021, 05:16 PM)jafar Wrote: Yes there is nothing to find, nothing incomplete and nothing missing.
But there are so much to experience.

The similitude is (again) like playing games.
There is actually nothing to find, nothing incomplete and nothing missing in the game.
What will one missed if he/she didn't play COD games? Nothing..

But there are so much to experience in the game.
The seeking, the completion of mission, the progression of the game are created as something to be experienced in the game by the player. But the game itself is already complete, nothing is unknown.

Knowing and experiencing are totally 2 different things.

A male gynecologist might know everything about pregnancy and giving birth, but he never experienced it himself.
Well at least in his lifetime, thanks to the veil of forgetting.
Even the 'veil of forgetting' is being created to make the experience more immersive.

Ra 1.7 Wrote:...the mind/body/spirit complex which you amuse yourself by distorting in various ways at this time. This distortion is not in any case necessary. It is chosen by each of you as an alternative to understanding the complete unity of thought which binds all things...

(05-10-2021, 05:51 PM)flofrog Wrote:

(05-10-2021, 05:11 PM)Ming the Merciful Wrote: The "Ultimate Bliss". Have you ever been in Still Mind Meditation, (and the total letting go), and you enter Bliss? There is a point where nothing exists, (within itself), and you are AT-ONE with everything and nothing? That is also the loss of the I AM, because your "Self" becomes unimportant, as you have entered Universal Consciousness.

Ming I had a strange experience about ten years ago. Sorry if anyone already read this, as I think I posted it at least once...

So I was driving on a nearly empty freeway it was a beautiful sunny day and I was like sending love to the palm trees along the freeway as there was a breeze. At one moment, because there was no traffic on the freeway I was on and four lanes so a wide one, I turned around because I knew that behind me I could see downtown framed by two small hills in the foreground.
Not only could I see downtown profiled, but way beyond downtown, way beyond,  quite clear I could see all the way to the ocean in the way back background and it was like scintillating.
As I turned  back  around I suddenly found myself at one with everything, the lamp post, the palm tree trunk, the iron boarder of the freeway,  the black tar stain on the white cement of the freeway. I remember bursting out of laughter and feeling, 'it's all so simple and we make it so complex"  that feeling of like walking on clouds,  bliss,  stayed with me for something like for four days and then it slowly vanished. So it was not while meditating,  just driving, lol of all things,  but I can feel again this huge laughter I had, that feeling of incredible lightness, of something so simple not even described with words.  lol  I remember thinking if I can see that, anyone can.

(05-10-2021, 09:28 AM)Ming the Merciful Wrote: Over recent days I have been led, (by the Void), to unchartered territory. The concept of Non-Duality. The Pinnacle on the top of the Pyramid and opening of new doors. The basic concept of Non-Duality, is there is no need to be a "Seeker", in search of the Ultimate Truth. The Ultimate truth lies within, and there is nothing to find, or search for.  Everything is complete and nothing is lost. There is nothing to be found, because nothing is missing. The outside world is an illusion and we are complete. For further information I recommend downloading the free PDF, (below). On YouTube I have discovered other like-minded people.

Ra Wrote:One of the primal distortions of the Law of One is that of healing. Healing occurs when a mind/body/spirit complex realizes, deep within itself, the Law of One; that is, that there is no disharmony, no imperfection; that all is complete and whole and perfect. Thus, the intelligent infinity within this mind/body/spirit complex re-forms the illusion of body, mind, or spirit to a form congruent with the Law of One. The healer acts as energizer or catalyst for this completely individual process.

Ra Wrote:The seeker seeks the One. This One is to be sought, as we have said, by the balanced and self-accepting self, aware both of its apparent distortions and its total perfection. Resting in this balanced awareness, the entity then opens the self to the universe which it is. The light energy of all things may then be attracted by this intense seeking, and wherever the inner seeking meets the attracted cosmic prana, realization of the One takes place.

L/L Research Are You a Wanderer Wrote:“Each of you, each of us within this group, each of those infinite sparks of the Logos, rest in unfathomable perfection drenched in a unity so profound that there is none to behold the light, but only the light. And this is your star being. This is your nature. Each of you has at the heart that fire of suns, that spark of creatorness that contains all that there is. And so, in a very important way, each of you is, beyond all changes, yourself. The you that was created before time and space, the only you that was ever you, the only you that will ever be you, you are unique. And truly are you precious and beloved to the Creator who values every distortion and seeming imperfection that has dented and banged you in the fire of learning and made you who you are. For you vibrate with a certain chord that cannot be duplicated, that is essentially you, that is most beautiful.”

Quote:Questioner: Is the duality of positive and negative another illusion?

I am Q’uo, and am aware of your query, my brother. And we would suggest that all is illusion, except the unity of the one Creator. All creation, all things, all other seeming entities are an illusion or distortion or portion of the one Creator which must be distorted until there is the complete realization and reunification with the one Creator.

(05-10-2021, 09:28 AM)Ming the Merciful Wrote: Over recent days I have been led, (by the Void), to unchartered territory. The concept of Non-Duality. The Pinnacle on the top of the Pyramid and opening of new doors. The basic concept of Non-Duality, is there is no need to be a "Seeker", in search of the Ultimate Truth. The Ultimate truth lies within, and there is nothing to find, or search for.  Everything is complete and nothing is lost. There is nothing to be found, because nothing is missing. The outside world is an illusion and we are complete. 

(05-11-2021, 01:25 PM)Stranger Wrote: The goal therefore is not to escape or avoid the game.  When people want to escape the game, what they really want is to escape the suffering.  And you do that by balancing the character that You had so lovingly and painstakingly created.

(05-11-2021, 01:25 PM)Stranger Wrote:

(05-10-2021, 09:28 AM)Ming the Merciful Wrote: Over recent days I have been led, (by the Void), to unchartered territory. The concept of Non-Duality. The Pinnacle on the top of the Pyramid and opening of new doors. The basic concept of Non-Duality, is there is no need to be a "Seeker", in search of the Ultimate Truth. The Ultimate truth lies within, and there is nothing to find, or search for.  Everything is complete and nothing is lost. There is nothing to be found, because nothing is missing. The outside world is an illusion and we are complete. 

Ming, that is a very accurate description of one side of the coin. 

The other side is this. In addition to the unity and perfection of all that is, there is a game the Creator adores, and finds to be the only activity worth doing: making shapes, animating them with its own consciousness, and seeing what they do.

The Creator made the Father, Logos.  The Father, although knowing full well that He is the One and Perfect, wanted to experience and explore the process of "spiritual evolution", and invested an extraordinary amount of work into creating the corresponding "game board" for him to play through, in disguise as each and every one of us.

So what we have is the Perfect Consciousness of the Creator taking on a Personality - think of it as a video game character defined by all kinds of attributes, ultimately adding up to some degree of "balanced" or "unbalanced."

Therefore, although all is indeed perfect and complete, at the same time there is a lot of work to do in evolving or balancing your character - a process that takes eons and involves all kinds of intense and fascinating detours and side-quests. 

Neither side of the coin negates the other.  They are complementary and both valid and important.
I am concerned that when people say "everything is already perfect" they may conclude that nothing needs to be done.  Nothing could be further from the truth.  The game of Creation is *the* principal activity of the Creator, into which the Creator has poured its infinite being.  It is what matters to the Creator. 

And since the Creator is *your* true identity - who you actually are - it is what matters to You.

The goal therefore is not to escape or avoid the game.  When people want to escape the game, what they really want is to escape the suffering.  And you do that by balancing the character that You had so lovingly and painstakingly created.