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What will be with the second density in the transition from third to fourth density? - tadeus - 07-01-2021 First a bigger quotation of the Special Meditation February 26, 2017 i had to think of today, sitting at our river, looking at the nature: Quote:Gary: In 63.24, the questioner asked, “Then, as the fourth-density sphere is activated there is heat energy being generated. I assume this heat energy is generated in the third-density sphere only. Is this correct?” So this planet is already a fourth-density entity and i will assume the meaning is, that this will enclose all the matter of the mineral world (this will be the entity of first density in respect to a similar differentiation by Rudolf Steiner). The channelings i know (like the above one) will treat mainly the question of what is happening with the entities of the third density - and this is of course an important question of our destiny. But what will happen with all the plants and animals of the second density? And what kind of entities are meant "that are working very diligently—both on the third-density level and upon the higher realms within the planetary entity itself"? (Maybe this questions can be adressed at Q'uo in future meditations, if it cannot be answered here?) Well - here are my feelings and thoughts today for discussion: My feelings say that the second density is already a part of the fourth-density too. My thoughts say that most of the plants and animals will not live long enough, that it makes an determining difference if they are already third or fourth density. But when the final movement into fourth density has come, what will happen to the second density? For the third density Q'uo has said that it would move through the death process. What will happen with the entities that "have both the third- and fourth-density bodies activated"? That's not really clear. RE: What will be with the second density in the transition from third to fourth density? - Dtris - 07-02-2021 My personal opinion is that first density is what we commonly think of as inorganic or not alive matter. The second density is everything from bacteria to higher order mammals. Third density is humans in our case but any animal that has evolved abstract though. When humans evolve to fourth density the first and second will remain as they are, and will be the same during 4th density as well. RE: What will be with the second density in the transition from third to fourth density? - tadeus - 07-03-2021 Yes - then the meaning of the activation / transformation of third- and fourth-density body is only relevant for our density entities, that is stepping into the next density. RE: What will be with the second density in the transition from third to fourth density? - tadeus - 07-11-2021 Yesterday i accidentally found this channeling, touching the theme of this thread: Saturday Meditation May 20, 2017 Quote:Gary: Yes, there’s one from A., who writes, “Over this past decade there have been an increasing amount of stories about interspecies relationships. It seems animals don’t have any trouble loving and bonding with other species, given the right circumstances. We also seem to be recognizing and utilizing qualities, abilities, and potentials in animals that were previously overlooked. Does this have anything to do with how the animal kingdom is relating to fourth density, or how fourth density is affecting the evolution of the animal kingdom?” RE: What will be with the second density in transition from third to fourth density? - David_1 - 07-11-2021 My interpretation is that the first density crystals and second density plants and animals will stay in the density they are. But the entire Earth is moving forward. So, the first and second density creatures will likely feel the increased love and harmony. I really enjoy the several squirrels that play in the trees in my back yard. But they always run from me if I try to come close. (Rightly so because their collective experience tells them to avoid possible danger.) Am I correct in assuming that if Earth were farther into 4th density, the squirrels might not be afraid of me? RE: What will be with the second density in the transition from third to fourth density? - Dtris - 07-11-2021 (07-11-2021, 08:11 AM)David_1 Wrote: My interpretation is that the first density crystals and second density plants and animals will stay in the density they are. The squirrels and any other animal are very sensitive to your own intention and vibration. Even without getting further into 4th density it is possible to get animals to not run away, if you are in the right state. You still won't be able to walk up and touch a random wild animal, but they won't view you as a threat. Coming close to an animal that you are not familiar with, to them is about the same as allowing a random 7' tall linebacker to come up and hug you. Even if you know you have nothing to worry about, maybe slow that down and get to know each other first. RE: What will be with the second density in the transition from third to fourth density? - unity100 - 08-07-2021 The selfish, pig-ignorant, stubborn, animalistic response to the covid crisis and needs of other people in their society from certain segments in a decent number of countries, cast doubt over a fast transition. While various countries like US and UK saw it fit to have their people die to protect the 'economy' (read: stock market), countries like China mobilized entire society to protect even their oldest. The oldest, who were seen 'ok to let them die because it does not effect the economy' in certain countries. An example is that Cummings guy, advisor to PM Boris Johnson in UK. Various major prominent think-thanks in US published similar sociopathy as well. And the main problem is that this was ok with a large segment of population in both countries. RE: What will be with the second density in the transition from third to fourth density? - Patrick - 08-07-2021 (08-07-2021, 09:23 PM)unity100 Wrote: ...And the main problem is that this was ok with a large segment of population in both countries. Yeah. It's not really the Elite doing it to us, it is us doing it to ourselves. RE: What will be with the second density in the transition from third to fourth density? - unity100 - 08-07-2021 (08-07-2021, 09:26 PM)Patrick Wrote:(08-07-2021, 09:23 PM)unity100 Wrote: ...And the main problem is that this was ok with a large segment of population in both countries. Even worse than that, a noticeable segment of population isnt even selfish. Or even conscious of what they are doing. If its too uncomfortable for them, they just deny the reality and expect that things will just be how they want. A form of childish or animalistic self-centeredness. Or even, delirium. This is actually doesnt feel so far off from 'end time madness of people' that was described in various religions' mythologies. (generally semitic). However, that the numbers of such people disconnected from reality not being too large or a majority gives hope and reinforces the proposition of timeline having been changed as Ra said. RE: What will be with the second density in the transition from third to fourth density? - MonadicSpectrum - 08-10-2021 (08-07-2021, 09:23 PM)unity100 Wrote: The selfish, pig-ignorant, stubborn, animalistic response to the covid crisis and needs of other people in their society from certain segments in a decent number of countries, cast doubt over a fast transition. I can appreciate that perspective, but personally, I see it as a mischaracterization that the choice was/is between the economy and old people. There are ways of effectively protecting old people while allowing those who aren't at risk of permanent harm from the pathogen to continue living their lives and producing goods/services. There is also good evidence that locking down the world economy pushes hundreds of millions to starvation and poverty (suffering over long periods of time) which is arguably much worse than old people dying and proceeding to their next life (assuming you believe in reincarnation). https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/09/25/pandemic-pushes-hundreds-millions-people-toward-starvation-poverty/ Also, I believe China is one of the best societies in the modern world to represent the service-to-self polarity which values loyalty and obedience to authority (control from the top of the hierarchy) over freedom and acceptance of differences (helpful guidance with respect for free will from the top of the hierarchy) which are the values of the service-to-other polarity. Even now, the service-to-self polarity of humanity is seeking control on mass through censorship and mandated medicine across the world rather than offering love and acceptance to those who choose different paths. Ra Wrote:83.12 Questioner: Then you say that there are no cases where those who are service-to-others oriented are using in any way techniques of enslavement that have grown as a result of the evolution of our social structures? Is this what you mean? RE: What will be with the second density in transition from third to fourth density? - Nikki - 10-02-2021 (07-11-2021, 08:11 AM)David_1 Wrote: My interpretation is that the first density crystals and second density plants and animals will stay in the density they are. The squirrels here are too friendly, they are not afraid of humans if they have not had treats or scared to fear humans. We do not have many here, only a few since we also have foxes. Had one run up and want to sit on my lap, it was just a baby but I quietly stopped it. We have foxes here that are like dogs, will sit and watch you, no fear. Wonder if somewhere within you are frightened of getting bit or some belief or preception since a child, this also reflects our inner deep beliefs that sometimes we do not know that it is our fear we see outside of ourselves. I love the birds, animals around here but they too have a border that we should respect and they will respect y/ours as well. Love them all, they are one and are the Creator in motion. RE: What will be with the second density in transition from third to fourth density? - tadeus - 10-02-2021 (10-02-2021, 09:33 AM)Nikki Wrote: The squirrels here are too friendly, they are not afraid of humans if they have not had treats or scared to fear humans. We do not have many here, only a few since we also have foxes. Had one run up and want to sit on my lap, it was just a baby but I quietly stopped it. A fox instead of a dog sounds like an interesting alternative. Our fox here is shy as expected, but we have a deer with fawn in the garden that is really trustful. The squirrel is romping every morning in front of the window in the walnut tree and grumbling. |