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3 Very Large Objects In Space Flying To Earth (and 'the truth') - Eddie - 12-09-2010
No independent confirmation of this yet, but I thought I'd post a link to the article in case anyone is interested. Source is The Examiner. Predicts arrival in mid-December 2012.
3 Very Large Objects in Space Flying to Earth
RE: 3 Very Large Objects In Space Flying To Earth - Ashim - 12-09-2010
I would call this report a gross understatement of the truth. Only 3 objects?
Love & Light
RE: 3 Very Large Objects In Space Flying To Earth - JoshC - 12-09-2010
How credible is this source? It says Andrew Wozny is a computer professional...? To be honest this isn't very convincing... Just my opinion!
Edit: Yea, ahktu, that'd be really cool if they actually were real and did land! I'm all for it, wouldn't mind a complete shift in consciousness on the planet tbh
:idea:
RE: 3 Very Large Objects In Space Flying To Earth - Brittany - 12-09-2010
I agree with JoshC that it isn't entirely convincing...even the photos looked a little wonky. Still, I hope it IS legit. I wish they'd go ahead and land NOW. Wouldn't that be awesome?
RE: 3 Very Large Objects In Space Flying To Earth - Ali Quadir - 12-09-2010
Legit or not. (And I agree we should be wary) The way things are going we'll probably see something along these lines happen in our lifetime.
It'll be awesome.
RE: 3 Very Large Objects In Space Flying To Earth - zenmaster - 12-09-2010
(12-09-2010, 05:37 PM)Ashim Wrote: I would call this report a gross understatement of the truth. Only 3 objects?OK, what is "the truth"?
RE: 3 Very Large Objects In Space Flying To Earth - Ashim - 12-10-2010
(12-09-2010, 10:56 PM)zenmaster Wrote:If you would like to start a thread on this topic please do so, I would be happy to participate in the discussion. When the coming events are understood there will be less fear as to their consequences for the population and thus pave the way for the smoothest of transitions into the new energies. It will be a truly Golden Age of your peoples.(12-09-2010, 05:37 PM)Ashim Wrote: I would call this report a gross understatement of the truth. Only 3 objects?OK, what is "the truth"?
What is "the truth" ? - zenmaster - 12-10-2010
Moderator note: Title of thread changed to remove member name
(12-10-2010, 05:23 AM)Ashim Wrote:Please state the the truth as you see it, with regards to the prior thread.(12-09-2010, 10:56 PM)zenmaster Wrote:If you would like to start a thread on this topic please do so, I would be happy to participate in the discussion. When the coming events are understood there will be less fear as to their consequences for the population and thus pave the way for the smoothest of transitions into the new energies. It will be a truly Golden Age of your peoples.(12-09-2010, 05:37 PM)Ashim Wrote: I would call this report a gross understatement of the truth. Only 3 objects?OK, what is "the truth"?
RE: Ashim and "the truth" - Ashim - 12-10-2010
(12-10-2010, 09:48 AM)zenmaster Wrote:(12-10-2010, 05:23 AM)Ashim Wrote:Please state the the truth as you see it, with regards to the prior thread.(12-09-2010, 10:56 PM)zenmaster Wrote:If you would like to start a thread on this topic please do so, I would be happy to participate in the discussion. When the coming events are understood there will be less fear as to their consequences for the population and thus pave the way for the smoothest of transitions into the new energies. It will be a truly Golden Age of your peoples.(12-09-2010, 05:37 PM)Ashim Wrote: I would call this report a gross understatement of the truth. Only 3 objects?OK, what is "the truth"?
Thanks for starting the thread..
I am here with you in the vibration of Love. Please recognise that my intent is to aid understanding in order for all to reach a greater level of consciousness if they so desire.
To title the thread 'Ashim's truth' does not quite reflect the nature of the proposed discussion. This should be an open discussion to see if we can come together as ONE and gain awareness of the Creation through the green ray or heart center.
The idea of following 'Ashims dogma' was exactly what lead to the disaster at the end of the last cycle. I was there, can remember a good part of the experience and most certainly do not wish to repeat the mistakes of the 'past' if I can help it.
No one is asking anybody to believe ANYTHING here on Bring4th. This has been shown time and time again. So much love gathered in one place is usually refered to as a temple. Again please keep this in mind if wishing to take part in the discourse surrounding Harvest.
If you feel that your brother is worthy of answering any questions then please feel free.
Love & Light
RE: Ashim and "the truth" - Ali Quadir - 12-10-2010
What do you mean by ashim's dogma? Are you somehow under the impression that you're personally responsible for major disasters that led much of humanity into having to enter the third cycle?
If so dude, lighten up, no single individual was responsible.
RE: Ashim and "the truth" - Ashim - 12-10-2010
There is the Law of Responsibility and we are all bound by the Universal laws.
No, I do not claim to be the only reason for the demise of our 'lost civilization' but I was involved and karmically bound for this cycle. We share a group responsibility for our actions. Mistakes were made but have been healed. Just in time I may add.
Ali, my brother I am already very light. Come and join us.
RE: 3 Very Large Objects In Space Flying To Earth - Lavazza - 12-10-2010
(12-09-2010, 09:26 PM)Ali Quadir Wrote: Legit or not. (And I agree we should be wary) The way things are going we'll probably see something along these lines happen in our lifetime.
It'll be awesome.
Interesting Ali, what other things are you seeing that lead you to believe so?
~L
RE: Ashim and "the truth" - Ali Quadir - 12-10-2010
Forgive me. I don't know what to say to that Ashim. I don't think I have the option to join you.
I respect your mythology blindly, but I do not necessarily accept it as my own, or as objective truth.
Just to clarify, you are referring to Atlantis?
RE: 3 Very Large Objects In Space Flying To Earth - Ali Quadir - 12-10-2010
Well, there is movement towards disclosure from various insider groups. And there is clearly acts of disclosure by various governments around the world. The various predictions and prophecies of public arrivals of E.T.s are mostly around exactly now even if they were made hundreds of years apart and on different sides of the globe. Humans on a global level seem to be much more eager to accept this as fact, and seem to actually long for it. While the link Eddie posted may not be fully reliable. It's clearly a response to this increasing inner pressure. We're seeing in the global consciousness the analogy of the young man growing up. He wants to leave his home town, not only does it mean he's eager to find his own way, he's also open towards outsiders coming in.
There is no single source I can give you that clearly states, it's happening and it's happening now. But there's many little things that somehow seem to indicate this is about to happen.
RE: 3 Very Large Objects In Space Flying To Earth - Lavazza - 12-10-2010
Fantastic
Yes, I agree with you completely. It sounded like there was something specific from how I read your previous post- but really it seems to be just about everywhere, and nowhere at the same time. It's definitely a very interesting time to be alive!
RE: Ashim and "the truth" - Ashim - 12-10-2010
Just to clarify I did not start this thread.
If you have taken part in some earlier threads you will know that I claim to recall past life experiences and that I am also grateful for the chance to find a community of friends where discussion of non accepted topics is welcomed. Thus, given the limited oppertunity to express myself within the current confines of my 'life' I choose to offer words of love and hope to my Brothers and Sisters on this internet platform.
RE: Ashim and "the truth" - unity100 - 12-10-2010
Really now,
in the earlier thread about 3 objects closing on earth, you said
(12-09-2010, 05:37 PM)Ashim Wrote: I would call this report a gross understatement of the truth. Only 3 objects?
Love & Light
this was the reason he opened this thread i remember.
so, what is the understatement here, and what is the truth about objects approaching earth ?
RE: What is "the truth" ? - Ashim - 12-10-2010
Which objects? Are we refering to the 'starships' that may or may not have been reported or to other celestial bodies?
Please retain from asking such wide and overly general questions. This only causes more confusion where it is love, clarity and some degree of understanding that we seek, or not?
I said I 'would call' the report a gross understatement, but hope not to have implied that I am in any way privvy to all truths.
If you do not wish discuss objects in the heavens but insist on a 'fast answer' then I am in no position to be of any help.
Love & Light
RE: Ashim and "the truth" - Ali Quadir - 12-10-2010
@Ashim, I know. I also have no trouble believing your past life recall. That's your personal mythology. And it's not something I can judge. Not even if I wanted to. I'd be stupid to, I remember stuff that isn't from this life, so why would you not? I think most here have those kind of memories. Your invitation for me to join you just felt impossible, even if I don't think I understood exactly what it meant. I also have personal difficulty just with "joining" so factor that into your understanding of my inability to respond.
In a way we're at crossroads. Just because we spend time together now does not mean our histories are linked, nor does it mean our futures are linked. We will carry the memory of this moment we shared into our futures. And maybe in years or maybe in aeons we'll meet again. Water that is put together will never truly be separated again.
I asked if it was Atlantis, because a friend of mine remembered dying there in the chaos that followed the disaster, it was on the steps outside the main "something" either a library, a temple or government building but it was a major building and very crowded. Another one remembers that she could not help him and was swept with the crowds and panic to some boats, she believes she survived. These two people too felt responsible for what happened.
I don't know what happened precisely. But I'm pretty sure I was not around, if part of me was on this planet it was probably among the many "barbarians". I do not seem to have memories of Atlantis.
@Unity, It's clear if we read the Law of One there are many events, and interstellar maybe even intergalactic objects approaching this earth. Whether this url is any indication that humans have actually spotted them approaching remains to be seen but we should remember the underlying ideas are based on many things and not just the article.
RE: What is "the truth" ? - unity100 - 12-10-2010
it isnt general or anything.
http://bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=1933
it is your first post in that thread. (the second post of that thread from the top).
after eddie said
Quote:No independent confirmation of this yet, but I thought I'd post a link to the article in case anyone is interested. Source is The Examiner. Predicts arrival in mid-December 2012."
you said
Quote:I would call this report a gross understatement of the truth. Only 3 objects?
then zenmaster inquired what you meant by understatement of truth, and you told him to open a new thread. he opened this thread.
i dont want to discuss objects in the heavens. i, like zenmaster and some others that inquired, want to know what you mean by 'gross understatement of truth' in regard to those objects.
i dont think it can be any clearer than that.
RE: What is "the truth" ? - Ali Quadir - 12-10-2010
@Unity, It's clear if we read the Law of One there are many events, and interstellar maybe even intergalactic objects approaching this earth. Whether this url is any indication that humans have actually spotted them approaching remains to be seen but we should remember the underlying ideas are based on many things and not just the article.
RE: Ashim and "the truth" - zenmaster - 12-10-2010
(12-10-2010, 01:43 PM)unity100 Wrote: Really now,yes, this is the specific reason for the new thread. I titled it "ashim's truth", rather than "The truth", becaused of his own claim, which presumably is supported by priviledged or esoteric knowledge (not known by 'our peoples'). With the information I have, I personally believe the objects in question are merely camera artifacts.
in the earlier thread about 3 objects closing on earth, you said
(12-09-2010, 05:37 PM)Ashim Wrote: I would call this report a gross understatement of the truth. Only 3 objects?this was the reason he opened this thread i remember.
Love & Light
so, what is the understatement here, and what is the truth about objects approaching earth ?
RE: What is "the truth" ? - Ali Quadir - 12-10-2010
Now @Zenmaster, It's clear if we read the Law of One there are many events, and interstellar maybe even intergalactic objects approaching this earth. Whether this url is any indication that humans have actually spotted them approaching remains to be seen but we should remember the underlying ideas are based on many things and not just the article.
I know I already posted the same text twice, it doesn't matter how often you repeat yourself. When a train is intent on derailing... It goes...
But I am making a valid point. Regardless of the article, we know indeed from esoteric information not even very particular information, just about every other place you visit reports the same, including the Law of One, that we have entered into a time where stellar and interstellar ships are going to be approaching this earth in large numbers.
How many did Ra state were active inside the quarantine field back in the 80s? Seven? So that means clearly there must be more now, and even more approaching.
No we won't likely see them on telescopes. Not even the ones specifically looking for them. But their approach is truth according to Ra, Bashar, Nostradamus, The hopi prophecies. None of these is something Ashim alone is privy too. I'm a little surprised at your bewilderment.
Who wants to argue with me that one line of text in a forum message is indeed enough to know everything a person meant by it? We can at least offer each other the benefit of the doubt. And maybe attempt to be more clear in our communications in the future.
RE: What is "the truth" ? - turtledude23 - 12-10-2010
Truth is only relevant when you have a system of interpretting and conveying ideas, be it through logic or emotion, verbally or physically - and these are all imperfect, distorted means of communication. With that being said: I think truth is hierarchical, you have a core absolute truth that is true no matter who, what, why, where, when, how you are in existence such as "all is one". Then you have truths that only hold relevance to a certain portion of existence, and in a more distorted way, such as "democracy is a good thing".
Truth is a central concept (like space, time, consciousness, etc.) which can't really be defined, only described. If I was holding and apple and someone said "you're holding an apple" then their statement is true, if someone said that I'm not holding an apple when I was then that statement is less true than the first statement but still has some kind of relative truth for that person in that situation (maybe they have bad vision, maybe they're angry at me and that changed their visual perception of me). The truth that is more true to more beings is usually the one that is best to use.
RE: What is "the truth" ? - unity100 - 12-10-2010
(12-10-2010, 03:43 PM)Ali Quadir Wrote: Now @Zenmaster, It's clear if we read the Law of One there are many events, and interstellar maybe even intergalactic objects approaching this earth. Whether this url is any indication that humans have actually spotted them approaching remains to be seen but we should remember the underlying ideas are based on many things and not just the article.
I know I already posted the same text twice, it doesn't matter how often you repeat yourself. When a train is intent on derailing... It goes...
But I am making a valid point. Regardless of the article, we know indeed from esoteric information not even very particular information, just about every other place you visit reports the same, including the Law of One, that we have entered into a time where stellar and interstellar ships are going to be approaching this earth in large numbers.
How many did Ra state were active inside the quarantine field back in the 80s? Seven? So that means clearly there must be more now, and even more approaching.
No we won't likely see them on telescopes. Not even the ones specifically looking for them. But their approach is truth according to Ra, Bashar, Nostradamus, The hopi prophecies. None of these is something Ashim alone is privy too. I'm a little surprised at your bewilderment.
Who wants to argue with me that one line of text in a forum message is indeed enough to know everything a person meant by it? We can at least offer each other the benefit of the doubt. And maybe attempt to be more clear in our communications in the future.
ali,
its great to see you respond in the name of another member as such, however, the particular question was directed to ashim.
he has expressed an opinion implying that he knew something specific in the subject that other people did not know. that specific something involves some objects approaching earth, and their number. not some widely known esoteric information regarding underlying ideas of the possibility of interstellar objects existing, based on many things or quarantine or telescopes.
ashim has made a statement specific. he said, 3 objects approaching earth would be a gross understatement of truth.
and some people, including me, are wondering what this truth is, and what is up with the number of objects approaching earth.
RE: What is "the truth" ? - Ali Quadir - 12-10-2010
Sorry Ashim, I did not mean to steal your thunder, I thought it would all be a bit of an open door.
RE: What is "the truth" ? - zenmaster - 12-10-2010
(12-10-2010, 08:17 PM)Ali Quadir Wrote: @Zenmaster, It's clear if we read the Law of One there are many events, and interstellar maybe even intergalactic objects approaching this earth. Whether this url is any indication that humans have actually spotted them approaching remains to be seen but we should remember the underlying ideas are based on many things and not just the article.I consider myself thoroughly familiar with the Ra material, however any "transitory" info in there I don't necessarily buy or consider important. What I do know is what the Ra material may or may not suggest, with regards to future or past events, is not necessarily relevant at this point. We don't know and can't where this is headed. So I'm honestly not sure why it makes sense to preface what may or may not be his personal knowledge or even how you'd know what his underlying thoughts are?
(12-10-2010, 08:17 PM)Ali Quadir Wrote: Sorry Ashim, I did not mean to steal your thunder, I thought it would all be a bit of an open door.It's an open door, but I'd particularly like to hear the facts he has about the subject in question.
RE: What is "the truth" ? - Ashim - 12-11-2010
Again. my mistake for getting over exited about the subject matter.
The lesson I have learnt, thanks to unity and zenmaster, is that there is a fundemental difference between 'thinking' and awareness.
The 'truths' that the Creator is allowing me to find for myself flow in from Source. The information, I feel is then integrated as far as possible. Thus the 'knowledge' aquired is but a tiny fragment of the 'package' received. I am attempting to find resonance between the set of my existing beliefs (Law of One and all that preceded) along with all my misconceptions and the awareness that has been granted.
So I stand corrected and give thanks for the help.
Of course I would be delighted to explain what I think may happen during Harvest but this would be just an opinion from a fellow forum member. This I think is the way things should be.
Ali, there shall be no thunder just peace and love.
They who search shall find the Truth.
Love & Light
RE: What is "the truth" ? - unity100 - 12-11-2010
i dont understand what's going on here. so what about the 3 or more objects approaching earth ?
RE: What is "the truth" ? - Ashim - 12-11-2010
The Truth is that they come in PEACE.
Love & Light