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The Money Trap - Ashim - 08-13-2021
The Money Trap and how to escape it.
Fundamental to understanding the methodology of the money trap is the individuals willingness to momentarily suspend belief in an existing paradigm and entertain new possibilities.
Often this enlightenment is achieved by an individual experiencing the extremes of the financial system, either poverty or great wealth. This situation provokes a great seeking.
Let us take a look at an ingenious way to harvest and direct the energy of an entire planet.
Create the monetary system.
The goal of the system is to transfer all wealth to the top of the pyramid. This is achieved primarily by understanding the connection between the energy sciences of mathematics, electronics and economics.
Yes, economics is an exact science that follows the very same laws as it’s counterparts, including the terminology.
It is the science of social energy.
Firstly define the human individual life as an atom. Each atom has a potential value in dollars. Many individuals create a field, or insocial terms, a population. Currency is what is created by the movement of value. In electronics that’s the current.
This motion requires a charge. That’s why the cashier charges you.
You’re likely to be influenced to spend currency due to an economic amplifier, or what is known as advertising.
As you might imagine this knowledge could be utilised to rig the system from behind the curtain so to say.
This is the key to creating a financial system that by design transfers the total wealth of the planet into the hands of the very few.
Realising the potential of social energy and with clever manipulation of the science it is possible to enslave an entire population and be the benefactor of its social energy.
The prime manipulation is induction, or inducing an individual or nation state into debt. This ensures the flow of current, or currency (dollars)towards the bankers.
Once trapped within the debt system it is difficult to escape.
RE: The Money Trap - Patrick - 08-13-2021
(08-13-2021, 03:31 PM)Ashim Wrote: ...with clever manipulation of the science it is possible to enslave an entire population...
With their freewill consent even...
RE: The Money Trap - Ashim - 08-13-2021
The individual or population fails to realise its potential.
We are truly much more powerful than we can imagine.
Liberation from the system can be achieved when one becomes aware of the prison walls. That’s the reason for the current situation in the world. People are giving their liberties away in the hope that the may be saved by some external benevolent force. They are willing slaves to the system.
RE: The Money Trap - Patrick - 08-13-2021
It's always the same age old tactics. It works so no need to invent anything new.
RE: The Money Trap - Ming the Merciful - 08-13-2021
(08-13-2021, 03:59 PM)Patrick Wrote: It's always the same age old tactics. It works so no need to invent anything new.
Avoid "Bitcoin", it is rigged.
RE: The Money Trap - Anders - 08-13-2021
(08-13-2021, 03:31 PM)Ashim Wrote: The goal of the system is to transfer all wealth to the top of the pyramid.
Yes, I learned that money is created as debt. And there is never enough money to repay both the debt plus the interest. And who owns all this debt? Debt to who? It's curious how virtually all nations can have a national debt. It means that there are international bankers at the top of the money pyramid to whom the money is being sucked.
And the vast majority of money is created by commercial banks, not by governments. I think this will change with the introduction of central bank digital currencies (CBDCs). And with automation increasing rapidly there will be the need for a universal basic income (UBI). A UBI I see as a necessary solution that should only be temporary.
I first thought that Bill Gates' idea of a robot tax was good. Then I realized that with a robot tax there will still be only a wealthy elite who owns the means of production while more and more people will have to rely on a UBI. Not good. So what needs to happen in the long run, and will happen according to Ray Kurzweil, is that technology becomes extremely advanced and also dirt cheap, which fortunately is an inexorable trend throughout history. This means that in the future the need for obligatory money can, and I think will be, removed. And soon historically speaking, within just a few decades from today.
RE: The Money Trap - jafar - 08-13-2021
(08-13-2021, 03:31 PM)Ashim Wrote: The prime manipulation is induction, or inducing an individual or nation state into debt.
This ensures the flow of current, or currency (dollars) towards the bankers.
Once trapped within the debt system it is difficult to escape.
Money trap is a 'mental state', it's when one sees 'money' or to be more precise 'specific currency' as the most important thing to collect/hoard in his/her life experience. It is in a way, a form of 'attachment', a form of 'addiction'.
While 'the money', 'the currency' itself is blameless and neutral.
In similar manner as any other things that one can become attached to, or addicted to is neutral.
From cocaine, cannabis, tobaccos, alcohol, sex, places, power, family, countries, ethnicity, races, religion, football club, identity etc...
One way that can help to get away from this 'currency mental trap', is to understand how the unit of currency was created in the first place. In summary it was created from purely 'thin air', majority through the practices called "Fractional Reserve Banking".
So the more loan that one took, and the more deposit that one put to the bank, it will produce more currency.
Not only the bankers, remember that the non-banker parties / bank's customer is an active participant of this currency creation process. Is it bad/evil? Not necessarily...
When one understood that currency is supposed to be spent, give, circulated, just like water or air, one will not see this as 'bad' or 'evil'.
Next is about 'debt trap', how to relieve debt trap?
It's easy... when the debtor cannot pay the debt, then just relieve the debt.
That is including towards the bankers, when you put a deposit of $100 into the bank, the bank is in debt to you for $100.
As mentioned above, currency is merely one thing that one can be attached or addicted to.
There are many others..
RE: The Money Trap - Ashim - 08-14-2021
(08-13-2021, 09:57 PM)jafar Wrote:(08-13-2021, 03:31 PM)Ashim Wrote: The prime manipulation is induction, or inducing an individual or nation state into debt.
This ensures the flow of current, or currency (dollars) towards the bankers.
Once trapped within the debt system it is difficult to escape.
While 'the money', 'the currency' itself is blameless and neutral.
So the more loan that one took, and the more deposit that one put to the bank, it will produce more currency.
Not only the bankers, remember that the non-banker parties / bank's customer is an active participant of this currency creation process. Is it bad/evil? Not necessarily...
When one understood that currency is supposed to be spent, give, circulated, just like water or air, one will not see this as 'bad' or 'evil'.
Next is about 'debt trap', how to relieve debt trap?
It's easy... when the debtor cannot pay the debt, then just relieve the debt.
As mentioned above, currency is merely one thing that one can be attached or addicted to.
There are many others..
You have not fully understood the implications of the true system.When governments continually borrow more than their GDP currency becomes debt, not a store of value. In scientific terms it takes the negative polarity.
Remember we are applying the same laws of electricity to the science of economics.
When the flow of current threatens to slow this in turn has an effect on the field (population). It must shrink in order to maintain the flow. Debt relief is only possible by the destruction of the debtor.
You are overlooking the fact that human life is measured by the system in $$.
If the debtor can’t pay the debt then kill the debtor. In fact the debtor is actually creditor because he was induced into exchanging social energy for the promise of a future greater return.
RE: The Money Trap - Ashim - 08-14-2021
(08-13-2021, 05:51 PM)Ming the Merciful Wrote:(08-13-2021, 03:59 PM)Patrick Wrote: It's always the same age old tactics. It works so no need to invent anything new.
Avoid "Bitcoin", it is rigged.
Perhaps you could explain how you derived at this conclusion.
RE: The Money Trap - jafar - 08-14-2021
(08-14-2021, 01:59 AM)Ashim Wrote: When governments continually borrow more than their GDP currency becomes debt, not a store of value.
Please examine the explanation video above, which has been designed to be easily followed by anyone.
Even those without any financial background.
New Currency unit are issued OUT OF THIN AIR THROUGH DEBT!
They often use many words for it, Bond, Securities, Mortgage, Credit, Loan but in essence it's the same it is DEBT.
By "Currency Unit" here are state sponsored currency such as USD, GBP, Euro etc..
New crypto currency unit (such as bitcoin) are issued through different mechanism.
However the "Fractional Reserves Banking practices" as explained in the video is applicable for any currency, including crypto currency.
Currency has no real value!
It has 'value' just because the people believe that currency has value.
The currency has real value only when it is being exchange by either goods or services. When the currency is spent!
It's the goods or services that has value, not the currency.
Quote:If the debtor can’t pay the debt then kill the debtor.
If the debtor can't pay the debt then just relieve the debt! Write off the debt! Forgive the debt!
Of course one can also kill the debtor (or the creditor) but it will not relieve the debt.
This is true for both; currency debt or non currency debt (such as karma debt)
RE: The Money Trap - Ashim - 08-18-2021
Whilst what you state describes some of the mechanisms of the system it fails to illuminate the point being made.
The Money Trap represents the bridge between physics and mathematics, where the energy source is a field. This field is the source and harnesses the social energy of the population.
It allows the bookkeeper to rig the game in its favour.
RE: The Money Trap - Ashim - 08-18-2021
How’s it done?
Gematria. The knowledge of letters and numbers.
It’s a code.
RE: The Money Trap - tadeus - 08-19-2021
The abolition of cash is one of the last steps to complete the slavery.
This can be done now in an elegant way hidden and substantiated with the pandemic enactment.
In the EU this is prepared with the Digital Euro.
Here has been a nice article how this will be enforced:
Quote:If we want to abolish cash, the introduction of the e-euro as legal tender means that we are legally set for the time being. Now we need to ignite the second stage and work even more actively to weaken cash:
1) The state calls for contactless payment. Cash is gradually gaining the image of harboring the risk of disease transmission and is being shunned.
2) While the advantages of digital payment are communicated, it is incessantly repeated that cash should be abolished, is unaffordably expensive, is harmful to the environment, is an anachronism, is the mother's milk of crime, and is a health hazard to boot.
3) Giral money is subsidized by the financial industry and made maximally cheap by means of government assistance.
4) Banks dismantle more and more ATMs; access to cash becomes more difficult.
5) Cash ceilings are introduced and fall to ever lower amounts above which the use of cash for payment purposes is prohibited.
6) To cut costs, transport operators are dismantling ticket vending machines, and more and more citizens' offices are closing their ticket offices. A free society is not worth anyone's investment. Payment should take place digitally, that would be cheaper.
7) Modern FinTech banks are springing up. Cash, like much else, is falling victim to the streamlining of operations at them. As a result, these credit institutions are able to offer very low-cost checking accounts. Traditional branch banks, on the other hand, have to look for ways to compete with the cheap prices. This prompts them to pass on the entire financial cost of cash transactions to the customer by means of fees.
8 ) Thanks to the coin testing ordinance, even the smaller cent coins have to be checked for authenticity by the banks. The horrendous costs of this are a burden on retailers in particular. They have to bear the fees and increasingly doubt the usefulness of cash.
All these measures ensure that fewer and fewer people are resorting to cash. This has two immediate consequences:
* Retailers are beginning to reject cash. Prof. Malte Krüger made the prediction before the Bundestag's Committee on Technology Assessment that the point will come very quickly when stores will close and abolish cash in rows for business reasons.
* The costs of cash deposits and withdrawals will be spread over fewer and fewer people. As a result, banks will charge ever higher fees to individuals and businesses at the counter and at the ATM.
In practice, these two consequences of the decline in cash mean that its abolition will gather pace and banknotes and coins will once again disappear more rapidly from the life of society.
Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
RE: The Money Trap - Patrick - 08-19-2021
Ashim, what do you think of this type of initiative to replace the concept of money?
https://eosprojects.com/the-technate-social-sustainability-and-equality.html
Quote:TL;DR Summary
- Energy units are representing production capacity, not capital value derived from markets.
- It is physically impossible to use energy after it already has been converted to work.
- Expecting energy units to operate like money is unrealistic.
- Energy units are issued for a limited period and are thus susceptible to being deleted and replaced by new energy units issued for a second period.
- This will eliminate the concept of trans-period savings.
- When used, energy units will cease to exist.
- This will eliminate transactional trading.
- The intent of these design features are not to eliminate savings and transactions, but to allow energy units to correctly measure production capacity.
- If we would say that Energy Accounting was to be introduced, it would have to be introduced gradually – as it is so alien and different from the concepts of economics and human life we have come to expect as natural.
RE: The Money Trap - tadeus - 08-19-2021
What's about the concepts of a swap meet for goods and working time?
Additional there are this every time used precious metals as exchangeable value ...
Whatever that can be manipulated will be manipulated.
RE: The Money Trap - jafar - 08-20-2021
The death of a 'currency' is nothing new.
Many currencies has been born and died throughout history.
Roman currencies, Chinese currencies, or even Pre Columbian Meso American currency which uses bird's feather as it's token instead of gold, paper or 'digital form'.
Study the lifecycle of currencies and one can gain better understanding of 'what it is' and 'how and why' it will die.
Or even study the 'death' of Venezuelan currency (bolivars) which just happened in recent years.
And definitely one day, US Dollar, Great Britain Pound or Euro will also meet it's similar fate.
One will arrived at a conclusion that currency (in any form) is actually neutral (not good or bad) and has no value.
It's the people who 'believed in the value', the believe is based on trust that other people also believe that it has value.
Let's take an example:
Imagine you're in Altay, a small city in the far flung region in Xinjiang, China.
You have $100 bill in your wallet and you saw an ice cream seller and want to buy an ice cream.
The ice cream seller will not give away his ice cream to you in exchange for your $100.
The reason being the seller do not believe that your $100 has value, and so does many other people in Altay.
You might also persuade him to accept your bitcoin, you offered him 1 bitcoin in exchange for the ice cream.
And definitely the seller will reject your bitcoin too.
You then asked the seller what is the price of his ice cream?
In which he answered with 5 RMB.
You might then try to explain that your $100 can be exchanged with RMB and it's 'worth' far higher than 5 RMB and so does your 1 bitcoin.
But the seller won't budge, as he doesn't believe in the value of USD or bitcoin, he only believe in the value of RMB.
So you went and try to find a money changer, and exchange your $100 with RMB.
You then went back to the ice cream seller and exchange your RMB with his ice cream.
Kaching... value is created, you now can enjoy the ice cream.
Kaching.... another value is created, as the ice cream seller is now happy that he managed to sell his ice cream.
And since you love the ice cream very much you gave him a tip, you give him 10 RMB instead of the 5 RMB that he asked for.
Kaching... another value is created, as the ice cream seller is now more happy with you because you give him more than what he has expected.
It's not how much money / currency that you have which matters, it's how you earn it and how you spent it that matters. The value of the currency happened if and only if it was being exchanged with something that provide real value, and every parties involved in the exchange felt happy with it.
Just realize this.. and one will be able to 'escape' from the money chasing / hoarding mentality trap.
Money / currency is neither good or bad, it's how you earn and use it that will makes it either good or bad.
RE: The Money Trap - flofrog - 08-20-2021
That's wonderful Jafar.
We were having a similar conversation at CSC about the forums. Aion posted a wonderful thing, he said, ' In themselves the forums do not exist, it's just people together."
RE: The Money Trap - unity100 - 08-22-2021
(08-13-2021, 09:31 PM)Anders Wrote:(08-13-2021, 03:31 PM)Ashim Wrote: The goal of the system is to transfer all wealth to the top of the pyramid.
Yes, I learned that money is created as debt.
Money is just a medium of exchange and that doesnt change anything - in times and societies in history where unequal economic systems like capitalism were used, same kind of wealth/income inequality that sucked the wealth from the majority and funneled it to a minority happened. Every single time. The system shapes the society.
RE: The Money Trap - tadeus - 08-22-2021
(08-13-2021, 09:31 PM)Anders Wrote: Yes, I learned that money is created as debt. And there is never enough money to repay both the debt plus the interest. And who owns all this debt? Debt to who? It's curious how virtually all nations can have a national debt. It means that there are international bankers at the top of the money pyramid to whom the money is being sucked.
And the vast majority of money is created by commercial banks, not by governments. I think this will change with the introduction of central bank digital currencies (CBDCs). And with automation increasing rapidly there will be the need for a universal basic income (UBI). A UBI I see as a necessary solution that should only be temporary.
I first thought that Bill Gates' idea of a robot tax was good. Then I realized that with a robot tax there will still be only a wealthy elite who owns the means of production while more and more people will have to rely on a UBI. Not good. So what needs to happen in the long run, and will happen according to Ray Kurzweil, is that technology becomes extremely advanced and also dirt cheap, which fortunately is an inexorable trend throughout history. This means that in the future the need for obligatory money can, and I think will be, removed. And soon historically speaking, within just a few decades from today.
Correct - money is a bond / a loan note. It is a credit shifting the pay into the future, because nothing can be payed now.
There is no physical value for it like gold or silver in the past. It is only the believe in a value.
You will find out that money are only bills and no bank notes any more.
Every human being is the creditor and his (juridical) person is the debtor for this credit now and in the future.
The birth certificate is the obligation for this credit.
The credit is not payed back - only the interest for it.
It is not in the interest to pay it back because every state is in a reorganisation bankruptcy. This is defined in the House Joint Resolution 192
RE: The Money Trap - flofrog - 08-22-2021
Every country is in debt. Imagine if someone suddenly decided we are all One, erase the debt.
RE: The Money Trap - tadeus - 08-22-2021
(08-22-2021, 09:09 PM)flofrog Wrote: Every country is in debt. Imagine if someone suddenly decided we are all One, erase the debt.
The debt is an illusion - our fictional persons debt us (all) human beings.
Money is just paper - not more.
The real values are always there in form of all that is, but they want that we should not own it and pay for everything that we use.
Including the life in form of paying for CO², because CO² is the product of life.
For all this NESARA / GESARA is planned.
RE: The Money Trap - Ming the Merciful - 08-30-2021
(08-22-2021, 09:09 PM)flofrog Wrote: Every country is in debt. Imagine if someone suddenly decided we are all One, erase the debt.
Imagine a "Debt Holiday" where all debts are written-off and clean spreadsheets. Then the wealthy elite suddenly became humanitarian and shared their wealth among the masses.
Realizing the errors of their ways.
RE: The Money Trap - Patrick - 08-30-2021
It's normal wanting one blanket to sleep at night, maybe even two. But why would one wish to gather one billion blankets just for themselves and store them away until the incarnation is ever? All the while some others don't even have one blanket for themselves.
RE: The Money Trap - tadeus - 08-30-2021
(08-22-2021, 09:09 PM)flofrog Wrote: Every country is in debt. Imagine if someone suddenly decided we are all One, erase the debt.
There is a way to erase every public debt - it is Accept for Value.
But of course it is not wanted by the (private) banks.
RE: The Money Trap - Nomadic Mike - 08-30-2021
(08-30-2021, 07:46 PM)tadeus Wrote:(08-22-2021, 09:09 PM)flofrog Wrote: Every country is in debt. Imagine if someone suddenly decided we are all One, erase the debt.
There is a way to erase every public debt - it is Accept for Value.
But of course it is not wanted by the (private) banks.
Are we allowed to discuss banned books here? The way to erase debt is to overinflate the currency for your purpose, and then to flip currency after purchasing things with the inflated money. It's happened several times in the past hundred years.
Protocol 20.
https://zaidpub.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/the_protocols_of_the_learned_elders_of_zion1.pdf
RE: The Money Trap - tadeus - 08-31-2021
(08-30-2021, 09:49 PM)Nomadic Mike Wrote: Are we allowed to discuss banned books here? The way to erase debt is to overinflate the currency for your purpose, and then to flip currency after purchasing things with the inflated money. It's happened several times in the past hundred years.
Protocol 20.
https://zaidpub.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/the_protocols_of_the_learned_elders_of_zion1.pdf
It seems that nothing can stop the Great Reset now and it will include an financial crash.
At least it is only important that the people understand the current financial system.
I would say here is the wrong place to discuss such things in detail.
Who is interested to understand the fiction can follow the keywords and links that are given as hint.
RE: The Money Trap - Nomadic Mike - 08-31-2021
(08-31-2021, 01:23 PM)tadeus Wrote:(08-30-2021, 09:49 PM)Nomadic Mike Wrote: Are we allowed to discuss banned books here? The way to erase debt is to overinflate the currency for your purpose, and then to flip currency after purchasing things with the inflated money. It's happened several times in the past hundred years.
Protocol 20.
https://zaidpub.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/the_protocols_of_the_learned_elders_of_zion1.pdf
It seems that nothing can stop the Great Reset now and it will include an financial crash.
At least it is only important that the people understand the current financial system.
I would say here is the wrong place to discuss such things in detail.
Who is interested can follow the keywords and links that are given as hint.
Those who are in service of self deserve a name, as they name themselves.
To disregard such would be disingenuous, no? It is our currency that is fractured by the IMF.
RE: The Money Trap - jafar - 08-31-2021
(08-30-2021, 06:44 PM)Ming the Merciful Wrote:(08-22-2021, 09:09 PM)flofrog Wrote: Every country is in debt. Imagine if someone suddenly decided we are all One, erase the debt.
Imagine a "Debt Holiday" where all debts are written-off and clean spreadsheets. Then the wealthy elite suddenly became humanitarian and shared their wealth among the masses.
Realizing the errors of their ways.
Everyone with a bank account is a creditor / lender, including those with Checking and Saving account.
When you go to the ATM of a bank and see the account currency balance on the screen.
That is the amount of money that the bank owe you!
You are the creditor / lender of the bank.
Does the bank have all the money that they owe to all of their customer?
Of course not!
The evidence can be seen by reading the bank's financial statement.
Compare the amount of Cash registered under asset and amount of deposit registered under liabilities.
Thus 'medium' (paper, gold/silver, bird's feather) doesn't matter.
Currency / Money is created through debt.
Regardless of the medium used.
With the exception of blockchain based crypto currency.
Moving on...
A 'debt holiday' means that Bank's customer a.k.a Bank's creditor need to also forgive the debt that the bank owe to them. Thus both the banks and it's customer are creditors.. both are 'bankers'.
Can you forgive the amount that you 'have' on your bank's account?
If yes, then it will also be easy for the bank to forgive the debt of it's debtors.
In reality, this never happened.
When something wrong happened in the economy or banking system, everyone will withdraw money from their bank account in a rush. They're asking their debtor (the banks) to pay up their debt NOW!
Mass protest or even mass riot usually happened when the debtors (the banks) cannot pay up their debt.
And the situation will then forced the government to handle the situation as banks are collapsing.
By issuing more money.... through also government debt..
A debt holiday will makes and requires everyone to be humanitarian.
RE: The Money Trap - tadeus - 09-01-2021
(08-31-2021, 01:25 PM)Nomadic Mike Wrote: Those who are in service of self deserve a name, as they name themselves.
To disregard such would be disingenuous, no? It is our currency that is fractured by the IMF.
It was never our currency, except you did live before about 1933, where there were still real banknotes with a value deposited for it.
On a real banknote there is 'banknote' printed on it and it has two signatures.
We only get 'bank bills' at our disposal from private banks and there is to pay an interest for it every time it is used.
(08-31-2021, 08:02 PM)jafar Wrote: Everyone with a bank account is a creditor / lender, including those with Checking and Saving account.
Additional:
Only the juristical person of a human being can open a bank account.
The juristical person is always the debtor that is in insolvency like the state that emitted the person.
An organisation in bankruptcy cannot emitte a solvent obligation.
The creditor is represented by the natural person with the birth certificate as obligation.
You can recognise it by the notation name, vorname.
The human being opens the account in the name of the juristical person that is owned by the state.
So you have always only a secondary right of disposition.
(Only human beings can do anything, because persons are a juridical fiction that is not alive.)
You can be owner of a (physical) 'bank bill', but not of the giral money on an account.
That's the reason why your state can lock the account and impount it every time.
And it's one of the reasons why physical money will vanish.
RE: The Money Trap - jafar - 09-01-2021
Going full circle to initial topic.
Money trap is merely a mindset.
Money / currency in any format or medium does not have any value and definitely it's not wealth.
Thus who actually put a person into a "Money Trap?
The definite answer is none other than the person him/her own self.
Thus it's quite ridiculous to blame money/currency (any currency in any format or medium), banking system, government or any other party than the person who put him / herself into a trap of his / her own making.
Money / currency is neutral, how you view and use it will decide whether it's a curse or a blessing.
Some people kill for money, cheat for money, lies for money, hurt other people/animal/nature for money or even hurt him/her own self for money.
Those are the type of people that fell into a 'money trap' of his/her own making.