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Demonstrating love in action; Understanding seperation - Nomadic Mike - 09-21-2021
As the title said, how best to demonstrate this through the barrier that separates us from other-selves.
In my story, it's been an uphill hill battle creating a better reality for those who are against change. Most are against anything that doesn't make one "financially" rich, to include those that run local governance. I'm working in my travels to make other-selves who want to see better, do better, in order to create better for their region and people. Earnings versus profits seems to confuse most people, yet explaining such is rather difficult.
As a physical wanderer, perhaps a spiritual one, it's as if playing leapfrog with unicorns at times.
How correct this?
Pretend an Angel Investor came into your dying region - most are - what do?
Seeking guidance,
Nomadic Mike
RE: Demonstrating love in action; Understanding seperation - Sacred Fool - 09-21-2021
Can you please clarify this, Mike? What are the spiritual principles involved?
RE: Demonstrating love in action; Understanding seperation - tadeus - 09-22-2021
(09-21-2021, 09:01 PM)Nomadic Mike Wrote: In my story, it's been an uphill hill battle creating a better reality for those who are against change.
Most are against anything that doesn't make one "financially" rich, to include those that run local governance.
How correct this?
Pretend an Angel Investor came into your dying region - most are - what do?
Seeking guidance,
Nomadic Mike
Why you want to create a better reality for those who are against change?
It is their free will to keep in the sinkhole of indifference.
You can only ask for their sense of live and if they are really happy with this.
RE: Demonstrating love in action; Understanding seperation - Nikki - 09-23-2021
Nomadic Mike, you speak of the beliefs, the desire, the ignorance of brothers and sisters in the illusion of a belief in physical reality. In all spiritual teachings, it always points to the self. Teach by example, love like the Creator. Physical riches are worthless. Change is constant even if we do not recognize it. Spiritual gifts are the ones we should chase and desire. There is no separation between you and other selves, that is an illusion and impossible. One important teachings of the Confederation is we cannot serve those that do not want to be served., we cannot interfere with free will. Live what you feel is right for you in love and joy and others will follow. Hope this in some way serves in love.
RE: Demonstrating love in action; Understanding seperation - tadeus - 09-24-2021
Nikki - that's a good point - we should always remember the social memory complex.
Here is a nice channeling corresponding to it:
https://llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/2016/2016_1203.aspx Wrote:We would suggest to you that in this silent core it is not so much the darkness of chaos that reigns, but a light which shines inwardly, and gathers itself to clarity of purpose, to fullness of intent, slowly, slowly, slowly, unseen, unsuspected at first, but capable of emerging into such a glorious flowering that it can be an experience of great awe to witness; to witness the silent stirrings of intent to heal, to give to others, and to glorify the One Creator. These are the seeds that will allow your hope to blossom into a new reality that beckons.
We will not say that the birth will be easy. It is sufficiently clear now that it will not. There will be dark times, there will be confusion, there will be many opportunities to turn away your eyes in despair as you gaze upon the deeds of your fellow human beings. Know, however, that you are an unquenchable source of love. That is the gift that you bring to the party, so to speak. And when you join with another, your gift is redoubled, and redoubled again with the addition of each new soul that joins with you.
So you begin your song silently, perhaps it bubbles up within your heart, and makes its way to your very lips, whereupon it becomes a melody which inspires a memory, another to sing along with you, and when the song becomes a chorus, and when it begins to fill the ears and the minds and the hearts of one more whose memory resonates with this song, that energy complex will begin to vibrate differently, will begin to vibrate as a social memory complex, and then, at that point, you will be well on your way towards entering a new dawn of experience.
It is the dawn that awaits you, it is the dawn that lies on the other side of this darkness. The darkness can be seen as impediment, or the darkness can be seen as prelude to this dawn. As we have suggested, the choice is yours. You are creatures of free will, you are creatures each of infinite worth, and it is our hope for you, and it is our confidence in you, that you will find your way.
RE: Demonstrating love in action; Understanding seperation - tadeus - 09-24-2021
Im moved my post to this thread, because it make more sense there.
RE: Demonstrating love in action; Understanding seperation - jafar - 10-08-2021
(09-21-2021, 09:01 PM)Nomadic Mike Wrote: As the title said, how best to demonstrate this through the barrier that separates us from other-selves.
In my story, it's been an uphill hill battle creating a better reality for those who are against change. Most are against anything that doesn't make one "financially" rich, to include those that run local governance. I'm working in my travels to make other-selves who want to see better, do better, in order to create better for their region and people. Earnings versus profits seems to confuse most people, yet explaining such is rather difficult.
As a physical wanderer, perhaps a spiritual one, it's as if playing leapfrog with unicorns at times.
How correct this?
If one wishes is to be 'financially' rich then that is their will to wish it so.
"Better" or "Richer" is a subjective word, it depends on perspective.
Why then you want to change them?
Or in your word "Correct" them as if they are "wrong" and you are "right".
The reason why the one infinite creator fractalized into separated finite entities is to gain multiple perspective where each entity will have unique experience. Thus no two entities will exactly share the same wishes, opinion or view.
It's the "gathered data/memory" that make each entity evolved uniquely.
Thus "separation" is actually created through "segregation of access to data / memory".
The way to objectively observe this is through observing people with "Multiple Personality" or "Dissociative Identity", where many personalities can be found inside 1 physical body. And each felt separated because each have their own distinctive / segregated access to data / memory.
A channel created by a "MP"/"DI" person discussing the matter in depth: https://www.youtube.com/c/DissociaDID
Or even on how computer/smart phone works, an "application" is distinctive because each have it's own "memory space", when the memory is merged then it will become one application. That's among the reason why Ra named it "Social Memory Complex" in the first place, the results of merging/unification of many, once separated, entities.
Quote:Pretend an Angel Investor came into your dying region - most are - what do?
If an "angel investor" came into my region, the first question I have will be "what do you want / what is your expectation"?
As "Investor" usually refer to a person who will demand a "Return of Investment".
While the word "Angel" is bias.
If it's truly the "positive type", they will not demand anything in return, they give freely and they give only when asked.
As there are many types of "angel" and some of those might actually ask for a favor or even demand for things, through applying force / fear / threat if necessary.
RE: Demonstrating love in action; Understanding seperation - pat19989 - 10-09-2021
(09-21-2021, 09:01 PM)Nomadic Mike Wrote: As the title said, how best to demonstrate this through the barrier that separates us from other-selves.
In my story, it's been an uphill hill battle creating a better reality for those who are against change. Most are against anything that doesn't make one "financially" rich, to include those that run local governance. I'm working in my travels to make other-selves who want to see better, do better, in order to create better for their region and people. Earnings versus profits seems to confuse most people, yet explaining such is rather difficult.
As a physical wanderer, perhaps a spiritual one, it's as if playing leapfrog with unicorns at times.
How correct this?
Pretend an Angel Investor came into your dying region - most are - what do?
Seeking guidance,
Nomadic Mike
Hi Mike.
To love is to see that the barrier which separates from other-selves is not real. To love is to join, in joy, pain, frustration, heartbreak, trauma. Those who are against change must overcome that barrier within themselves. Like someone on this forum has told me in a time of frustration with my inability to "show the light" to someone (see links below), we are here to learn to love each other just as each other are. We can plant seeds, dropping hints of what we perceive as spiritual "wisdom," but it is up to those we love to feed and water those seeds, to discover for themselves what beautiful creation can grow from love, surrender, and unity of mind.
This response serves as a reminder for me, as much as it is "advice" for you. Let's just keep loving these crazy sonsab****es
Love
RE: Demonstrating love in action; Understanding seperation - pat19989 - 10-09-2021
https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=19367
This thread helped me a lot with this concept, specifically Patrick's contributions
https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=19281&pid=300644#pid300644
And another gem from Margan
https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=19281&pid=300551#pid300551
And this was the last one I had in mind.
Love