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In everything, do to others what you would have them do to you. Thoughts? - Serveou - 10-22-2021

The teaching or life advice that can be found in many major religions as the basic teaching for a better life for all. And even though it is so basic it seems to be hard or even impossible to follow for majority of the poeple. Why is this so? I know I've had trouble with it. I remember when I was on the fourth grade in school and we had this teaching written on paper and hung around the school. I read it, I think I understood it and I still didn't follow it.

I wanted to make this thread because I have contemplated to meaning of this teaching a lot and the massive difference it would make in our lives on this sphere if everyone would take it to their heart. If we could just see every situation from our other selves perspective then the world would be a much better place. For example if I would hurt someone. Would I like for this person that I am hurting to hurt me instead. Probably not. So why do it? If we are all one with the Creator and one with each other then causing pain of any kind to others is just a self inflicted wound. Of course we cannot follow this teaching perfectly in every situation. Someone might ask you to do something that you just can't help with. We all have freewill to decide what kind of service we want to perform. I just think that if everyone would really contemplate the meaning of this teaching then the world would be a totally different place. What do you think?


RE: In everything, do to others what you would have them do to you. Thoughts? - Patrick - 10-22-2021

It is a very complex subject in my opinion.

I think giving all the space to people to be who they are is the best anyone can do. But then what happens when someone wishes to diminish your space in order to be who they are themselves (STS)?

The real issue is that this illusion we are in is purposefully built in a way that it forces each of us to affect other people's space in one way or another. It is basically built in a way that ensures conflicts so that we can have opportunities to work at resolving them and try to prevent them from reoccurring.

So the whole thing is not fixable because it does not want to be fixed, it would defeat its purpose. Yet we come here to learn to muster the desire to fix it nonetheless. This is the best we can do. If you have the desire to make things better, then you already succeeded in your endeavor. The wish and the attempt was the goal. Succeeding in fixing things would just mean that 3d is over and 4d has started in my opinion.


RE: In everything, do to others what you would have them do to you. Thoughts? - Sacred Fool - 10-22-2021

(10-22-2021, 09:13 AM)Patrick Wrote: Succeeding in fixing things would just mean that 3d is over and 4d has started in my opinion.

Or...one could say that success in this would bring us up to par with 3D dolphins.

In one sense, the matter is not so complex, viz., humans have developed habits of over-exploring every cavity and crevice of the lower chakras so as to delay a normal progression to exploring more fully the heart chakra.  That's my view, that we've simply come to prefer the one pathway over the other.

For one thing, there are so few examples left to us (because we've exterminated most f them) of societies which favour the common good over the supremacy of the few.

We're just taking the long path around rather than traveling the direct route to understanding the beauties of the heart along with its pleasures such as that mentioned in the title of this thread.


RE: In everything, do to others what you would have them do to you. Thoughts? - Dtris - 10-22-2021

The main purpose of the that teaching is to bring about empathy. I personally think that empathy is a STO trait that is developed thru polarization, while sociopathy or the lack of empathy, is developed thru STS polarization.

This teaching is meant to bring ones awareness to what other people feel or experience as a result of your actions, and then guide you to take actions which are beneficial for both.


RE: In everything, do to others what you would have them do to you. Thoughts? - jafar - 10-23-2021

DO TO OTHERS WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO TO YOU.

Because "others" is actually "you" and "you" is actually includes others.

And as a facility to learn, a set of lessons has been prepared and imposed through the "Law Of Action".
What you do to others will certainly comes around back to you.


RE: In everything, do to others what you would have them do to you. Thoughts? - Serveou - 10-23-2021

Thank you all for your enlightened thoughts on the subject. 
I have just been pondering the fact that because there is so much trauma today in our third density that we would see the error of our ways and realise that the only way to end all suffering is to love and work together. We are all of course individuals when it comes to waking up from all of this madness but it is just sad to me that we are now facing this transition and yet almost none of us are ready for it. It was apparently easy for Ra. How do you think they did it?


RE: In everything, do to others what you would have them do to you. Thoughts? - Patrick - 10-23-2021

Ra had no monetary system and everything was naturally shared...


RE: In everything, do to others what you would have them do to you. Thoughts? - Serveou - 10-23-2021

(10-23-2021, 11:57 AM)Patrick Wrote: Ra had no monetary system and everything was naturally shared...

Hmm, was that mentioned in the Ra material? I don't recall. But it makes sense. Monetary system promotes inequality.


RE: In everything, do to others what you would have them do to you. Thoughts? - Sacred Fool - 10-23-2021

(10-23-2021, 02:13 AM)Serveou Wrote: Thank you all for your enlightened thoughts on the subject. 
I have just been pondering the fact that because there is so much trauma today in our third density that we would see the error of our ways and realise that the only way to end all suffering is to love and work together. We are all of course individuals when it comes to waking up from all of this madness but it is just sad to me that we are now facing this transition and yet almost none of us are ready for it. It was apparently easy for Ra. How do you think they did it?

(1) When one is beyond the trauma, one may have perspective, but at this time so many of us are so deep into it that this is all we can see.  Ergo, any realisations are some distance off.

(2) As they report it, 3D Ra had a social structure that did not create and perpetuate trauma anything like the ways our social structures do.  IMO, this accounts for much of what you ask.  On the other hand (specifically, the left hand), we've become much more savvy to the ways of contrivance, manipulation, greed and so on.

And I heartily agree with your sense that this current state of affairs is very sad.  The best we can do, some would say, is to learn to heal ourselves, then apply that healing to those around us, and into the very planet.


RE: In everything, do to others what you would have them do to you. Thoughts? - IndigoSalvia - 10-23-2021

I have had similar contemplations, with the ultimate intent of ameliorating our planetary situation. 

What happens when my definition of how I wish to treat/be treated is different than others? And, in this infinite creation, there are no doubt infinite definitions of the golden rule. In practice, it's not so universal.

I also recognized, in my own self, that when I attempted to apply the golden rule in practice, I have expectations of others. This distortion comes close to me infringing upon the free will of all beings to manifest self.

All of our unique self-expressions - our own paths of service - is, of course, a sum total reflection of Us: the One/Infinite Creation. And here there is beauty in infinite diversity. 

Recent space/time is uncomfortable for many entities on our planet right now. When other-selves manifest/express/behave in a manner that doesn't resonate with me, after fumbling and stumbling, I keep coming back to Ra's (deceptively simple) advice: send Love and Light, bid them well, etc. Sometimes I do this at a distance (spiritually); other times I do this close-up and personal. 

Thank you for bringing up this interesting topic to consider.


RE: In everything, do to others what you would have them do to you. Thoughts? - Sacred Fool - 10-23-2021

(10-23-2021, 03:51 PM)IndigoSalvia Wrote: What happens when my definition of how I wish to treat/be treated is different than others? And, in this infinite creation, there are no doubt infinite definitions of the golden rule. In practice, it's not so universal.
                             
In the spontaneous response in the present moment, you likely won't have a lot of leeway to theorise about it.  Mine own observation is that the way many, many creatures prefer to be treated is simply and spontaneously through the heart.  This means not through the busy mind nor through the self-protective lower energy centers, but simply with open hearted caring.  Have you noticed this, yourself?


RE: In everything, do to others what you would have them do to you. Thoughts? - IndigoSalvia - 10-23-2021

(10-23-2021, 04:31 PM)Sacred Fool Wrote:
(10-23-2021, 03:51 PM)IndigoSalvia Wrote: What happens when my definition of how I wish to treat/be treated is different than others? And, in this infinite creation, there are no doubt infinite definitions of the golden rule. In practice, it's not so universal.
                  
In the spontaneous response in the present moment, you likely won't have a lot of leeway to theorise about it.  Mine own observation is that the way many, many creatures prefer to be treated is simply and spontaneously through the heart.  This means not through the busy mind nor through the self-protective lower energy centers, but simply with open hearted caring.  Have you noticed this, yourself?

Yes, absolutely. I see your point, Sacred Fool. Through my fumbling and stumbling in the present moment, I return to Ra's advice (send L/L), which aligns with your words: treat others with an open-hearted caring. 

Having said that, what I (want to) send to others, may simply not be wanted/received. Quo said: A negative entity will be sickened by true love. My own personal experience concurs. 

Nonetheless, it is my nature to send L/L (if I can do so through my own distortions), but how I send L/L depends upon the circumstances.


RE: In everything, do to others what you would have them do to you. Thoughts? - Sacred Fool - 10-24-2021

(10-23-2021, 07:13 PM)IndigoSalvia Wrote: Having said that, what I (want to) send to others, may simply not be wanted/received. Quo said: A negative entity will be sickened by true love. My own personal experience concurs. 

Nonetheless, it is my nature to send L/L (if I can do so through my own distortions), but how I send L/L depends upon the circumstances.

I know what you mean, and yet, maybe its simpler than that?  What is it you really send when you think you send love?  Are  you sending some abstract material substance?  Are you sending, as you say, your nature filtered by your your own ability to open to love?  Can you really control this by sending more this and less that?  We might think so, but do we really know what actually goes on?  Probably not.

So, maybe the best thing is to stand in our deepest possible openness to pure love and ask our higher self or guides and helpers to direct this activity for the best and highest good?  This approach is less satisfying in that we feel less in control of the process, however, the service rendered might be purer in nature.


RE: In everything, do to others what you would have them do to you. Thoughts? - flofrog - 10-26-2021

This is something I read recently like some weeks ago, perhaps two months.
Not sure I read it here though. It was about someone who had led a serious life in service to others but along the way, through difficulties, that person had harbored a sense of being mistreated, feeling her service not recognized, thinking and rethinking her life all along. It appeared that in fact one of her most loving actions had been to bend over a weed, feeling compassion for the difficulty of that fragile weed to survive.
This might support a lot the simpleness of love that Sacred Fool was mentioning earlier. Wink


RE: In everything, do to others what you would have them do to you. Thoughts? - Malajube - 11-22-2021

Ah, I love this subject. This honestly is how I define love. It has become the bedrock of my moral foundation/aspiration and that from which I draw the meaning of my existence.

It was a major, arguably “The”, teaching of Jesus. From which I had the first deep engagement on the subject, and I have not encountered others that delve deeper into its intricacies. The Ra material certainly alludes to it strongly, though I feel indirectly.

Matthew 22:35-40

35 ... an expert in the law, asked a question to test Him: 36 “Teacher, which command in the law is the greatest?”[l]

37 He said to him, “Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.[m] 38 This is the greatest and most important[n] command. 39 The second is like it: Love your neighbor as yourself.[o] 40 All the Law and the Prophets depend[p] on these two commands.”

Also rendered again in Matthew 7:12

“Therefore, whatever you want others to do for you, do also the same for them—this is the Law and the Prophets”

I have been far from acting out such a beautifully simple instruction, but I’ve truly connected with God through it. By God, I mean wholly to our creator, or source as often referred to here. It is hard to take all of the Bible in, but the philosophy outlined in Jesus’ teachings on the kingdom of heaven I’ve personally have had gloriously confirmed as the desire God has for us to commune with Him. That is a long tale, but to surmise what lead to my experience with God was to put those two commandments first as the meaning of life. An act that I did in faith, and I am unsure if there is another way to live that out truly as such.


My favorite part about it is how it is very recursive and calls for much reflection of your conscious knowledge of the self. To act this out, you must consider everything that has ever been done to you, all the things that you truly did appreciate, that lit your very soul, also those things that were merely benign, or that were troublesome, annoying, or hurtful. You must also consider all of the things that you have wanted, the gaps in your life that your mind/soul set to filling as unmet desires. Consider all of that to create an image of what it truly is that you want done to yourself, and that image is what you should put the effort of your hands toward doing to others. Truly, as it was said, with all of your heart, soul, and mind, that you should put yourself to this task. That is how you worship God.

This beauty only compounds when you consider the parables of the sower of the seeds. To plant this in People’s hearts, and while some may not have it take root, and some may have the lofty idea plucked away by the doubters of the world, but some will take it to heart, and then the plant will bear much fruit, nourishing fruit that in turn provides more seeds! Haha!

And again, to me it compounds again with truths such as “God is Love” and “We are made in God’s image” It is truly love all around.

Anyways, that my 2 cents on the topic. I hope it was meaningful to someone Smile


RE: In everything, do to others what you would have them do to you. Thoughts? - Patrick - 11-22-2021

(10-23-2021, 12:06 PM)Serveou Wrote:
(10-23-2021, 11:57 AM)Patrick Wrote: Ra had no monetary system and everything was naturally shared...

Hmm, was that mentioned in the Ra material? I don't recall. But it makes sense. Monetary system promotes inequality.

Sorry I just saw your question. There you go. Smile

https://www.lawofone.info/s/60#16 Ra Wrote:...in third density we had not developed the interrelationships of your barter or money system and power. We were, in fact, a more philosophical third-density planet than your own and our choices of polarity were much more centered about the, shall we say, understanding of sexual energy transfers and the appropriate relationships between self and other-self...



RE: In everything, do to others what you would have them do to you. Thoughts? - Serveou - 11-25-2021

(11-22-2021, 07:50 AM)Patrick Wrote:
(10-23-2021, 12:06 PM)Serveou Wrote:
(10-23-2021, 11:57 AM)Patrick Wrote: Ra had no monetary system and everything was naturally shared...

Hmm, was that mentioned in the Ra material? I don't recall. But it makes sense. Monetary system promotes inequality.

Sorry I just saw your question. There you go. Smile

https://www.lawofone.info/s/60#16 Ra Wrote:...in third density we had not developed the interrelationships of your barter or money system and power. We were, in fact, a more philosophical third-density planet than your own and our choices of polarity were much more centered about the, shall we say, understanding of sexual energy transfers and the appropriate relationships between self and other-self...
Thank you Patrick for posting this segment. I had forgotten about this part. This might be self-evident but maybe this is one of the reasons why Venus is usually associated with love. Just a self-revelation.


RE: In everything, do to others what you would have them do to you. Thoughts? - unity100 - 11-27-2021

What if someone enjoys people dressing up as shrimps and surprising him while sleeping...

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Just joking. To to other as you would want others to do to you is a good idea, but it shouldn't be that generalized and applied to everything.


RE: In everything, do to others what you would have them do to you. Thoughts? - Serveou - 11-28-2021

(11-27-2021, 05:32 PM)unity100 Wrote: What if someone enjoys people dressing up as shrimps and surprising him while sleeping...

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Just joking. To to other as you would want others to do to you is a good idea, but it shouldn't be that generalized and applied to everything.

True, it is pretty generalized and easily misunderstood but I think that it is an excellent and even necessary life advice for all true seekers wishing to polarize positively. I think it would be beneficial for all people to contemplate the meaning of it before applying it though.