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Main Topic Deleted - Quincunx - 12-11-2021 ------- RE: Observational Clues - IndigoSalvia - 12-11-2021 Interesting thought exercise to look at one's body complex, notice unique features, and explore how those could serve oneself spiritually. I empathize with the last. I have always been small (short and thin). People have treated me as if I were younger than I am my whole life. It bothered me when I was a younger (because people talked down to me), but I don't have much reaction to it any longer. People make assumptions based on appearances (and I do as well). It leads to communication, and greater understanding. I have manageable hyperacusis which, in times of stress, flares up. The experiences are unsettling, but to me, it's a warning sign for which I am very grateful. It signals to me that my MBS is overwhelmed and I need to take care. Nowadays, my wonderful body, which has served me so well, is showing the beginning signs of aging. I am interacting with that process and watching/experiencing what arises. RE: Observational Clues - Quincunx - 12-11-2021 ------- RE: Observational Clues - flofrog - 12-11-2021 Whoa those two posts are very interesting, thank you both Quincunx and IndigoSalvia... Hmmm you do know that Q'uo definitely ( and I think even Ra ) mentioned that Allergic Persons are most often wanderers through sometimes difficult adaptation to the lower vibes of 3D. I am not sure Quincunx, that each of your allergies should be directed to necessarily negative traits ![]() For my part few things like that, which makes me highly doubt I could be a wanderer, lol. The one thing I do have is an extra sensitive nose, lol. I can smell smoke like three miles away so I have a feeling that in a past incarnation, fire must have been a large challenge/catalyst. I remember as a child, I lived in Paris at the time, and one summer evening I was watching the sky from a large opened window with my brother and sister who were much older. There was a fire in a really far away district in Paris that night, I could smell it and I remember getting completely emotional, so much that I got a high fever that night ![]() One other thing but not negative is that I have no fear of height, I use to to do rock climbing with my uncle, who was a mountain guide, I can have my feet over the skinniest ridge with an abyss behind me of two thousand feet, it doesn't worry me one bit lol !! On the more negative clues I used to be so shy that sitting at a dinner table I couldn't open my mouth with my mental in a complete lock down... Thank goodness I worked on that and now I can talk to any stranger I meet which sometimes even has my very friendly kids aghast. RE: Observational Clues - Quincunx - 12-11-2021 ------- RE: Observational Clues - Quincunx - 12-13-2021 ------- RE: Observational Clues - Vestige - 01-20-2022 (01-19-2022, 06:31 PM)Quincunx Wrote:(01-19-2022, 05:32 PM)Vestige Wrote: Thank you for inviting me to your thread, Quincunx. ![]() Yes, I have noticed several things about myself which seem especially 'other' compared to our other-selves, to the degree that I occasionally find myself surprised whenever my thought processes or preferences or other characteristics line up (neatly) with those around me. That said, I also have not felt, at least lately, that I am profoundly estranged from others. I generally enjoy the company of others, especially conversation, and I have been able to discover many, many things which I have in common with others, or, at least, can appreciate easily in another. I realize this appraisal may sound paradoxical ... So, let me also say - my surprise comes at the kinds of differences between myself and others. Where I might assume commonality there tends to be difference, and vice-versa. Now, also, I am sure that one could find many that are quite like me if drawing from the world population. My surprise also comes at how there are peculiar differences even between myself and my family. I'll have to revisit this writing at some point to ensure thoroughness, if you would find it helpful. Small examples:
I also observe differences of the less-transient kind in my personal pragmatism and philosophies. Notably, I tend to be a little iconoclastic: ... in all of my occupational work, I have found some way to innovate the processes or instruments used so that the whole effort is more efficient, more resilient, and more clear, in close (but not always complete) agreement with my coworkers and supervisor ... ... I find it easy to discard (properly) any material or digital possessions, though I prefer to avoid waste and spoilage otherwise ... ... I find the current (U.S.) tax system (and, really, most of its legal system and government) to be illogical, brash, and rude ... ... and so on. Much in our shared society appears, to me, to be superfluous at best. I am usually baffled by the assumption that we "have to" perpetuate certain inefficiencies, though, also, I would prefer non-cooperation over revolt or resistance to such systems (having integrated this belief after many years of struggling with the seeming need to, instead, indeed, resist). And, as you read, I was born with a rare and severe adrenal dysfunction, which my sibling does not share though our chances of acquiring the illness were, by a geneticist's estimation, equal. This seems to have predisposed me in turn to certain mental dis-ease, though I feel fortunate now that I have long stretches where I cannot imagine feeling uncomfortable or afraid or upset at all. I also have a peculiar air of luck that follows me, which I had only ever found in common with a good friend of mine, though others often were swept up into whatever circumstances contrived themselves around us, usually favorably. I can always find the right data or sign to inspire me, if I really need it ... Often this extends to more concrete support, when I am really in a bind ... And, as both an inner and outer gift, I tend to see or experience a particular flavor of humor in my life. I used to call it, "wry," but I found the word has a bit of a negative or indignant connotation. I usually just find myself admiring how clever it all was, not regretting it, even if it edged to the absurd or surreal. From my reading, reflection, and meditation, I feel some resonance with the possibility that I have a dual-activated body, but I am willing to admit this might also be wishful thinking. What might you say? I understand none can learn for the other, but do you see any kind of pattern in me? RE: Observational Clues - Vestige - 01-20-2022 Looking once more through your posts here, I find that you and I appear to share much in common! ![]()
RE: Observational Clues - Quincunx - 01-20-2022 ------- RE: Observational Clues - Vestige - 01-20-2022 Apologies for the row of posts - I feel it is better to split up the content, but I can mesh my posts together if that would be preferred. Edit: Written piecemeal and posted after your most recent post, Quincunx, thus no longer part of a row, but not yet acknowledging your newest words. Forgive me the delay, please! Edit #2: Quincunx, I respect and appreciate your decision to limit what you say in regards to my situation. I am quite intrigued at what you have supposed - in fact, I have, previously, wondered if I might be a fifth-density Wanderer. Further in this post, I had written that I now suspect I am a dual-activated person. I will have to examine myself further, as you have counseled. Thank you. By dream dictionary, do you mean one attained literally through dreams and dream journaling? I began a new dream journal only a few days ago! How synchronistic this might turn out to be! Would you share your insights on the Song of Solomon thus far? I look forward to your thesis! -------- As for the Confederation's insights, I remembered reading this earlier: Quote:May 7, 2006 Indeed, my adrenal 'setting' was detected in prenatal screening. Thus, it was not programming I acquired during this incarnation, rather, it was preincarnative. That said, I have been told that my birth chart was appraised and a consensus formed in that group of scholars that I was "a spirit trying to decide if he really WANTED to stay here." This has been a source of both great anguish and inspiration for me. On the one hand, my adrenal programming could be an 'easy out' from the incarnation borne of my metaphysical cold feet - but I have been advised and accepted that this is quite unlikely. The adrenal programming could instead be a reminder or, less charitably, a consequence of my alleged hesitation. Or, maybe I, still in time/space, eagerly selected this programming, and then was struck with doubt when faced with the reality of living out the whole plan of my incarnation. I am confident only that the adrenal programming is an opportunity; for what, I can only guess at this juncture. Carla, as Ra explicitly mentions, too, would be a great 'character study' on the topic of physical distortion programming and healing. To delve a bit more into the May 7, 2006 transcript: Quote:Q'uo I mentioned that I feel I have outgrown my asthma. My early birth compromised my respiratory functions, but I believe that was acquired during that earliest period of my incarnation. First, it was a physical artifact only, I think, then it remained latent until it could serve as a more 'sophisticated' catalyst: When I started running cross-country as part of my middle school team, my asthma resurfaced and was severe. I remember, during a particular away-meet which had been scheduled just as a hard winter fell, the physical exertion overcame me halfway through the race, and it became nearly impossible for me to breathe unless I walked at a very slow pace. Several of the host team, having already finished the race, jogged beside me and implored me to keep trying, to run again, to finish strongly the race. I felt great shame. I had not the capable physical conditioning of my peers at that time, and I knew that the cold air amplified the strain on my lungs, but I felt it was wrong of me to have those realities about me and that I should run because my peers wanted me to run. I tried to tell them I could not breathe, but I could barely eke out a whole word. My adaptation then was to sort of 'mime' running (in the races that followed; I walked the whole way to the finish line that wintry day and, later that evening, was hospitalized for pneumonia) so that I would no longer be implored to run when I felt incapable. Later, I transferred schools and again joined the cross country running team. I was still in poor condition. However, one of the experienced runners invested their time to accompany me during the first practice runs of the season, and he guided me in building up my endurance and power so that I became able to run without interruption one mile, then two, then three, and so on. I became a beloved member of the team and found most of my friends within, or convinced others to join. I still set no records, but I persevered and became a solid mid-performance runner. My coach gave me the honor and responsibility of (co-)captaining the team in my junior and senior years. Well, in my junior year, they called me 'lieutenant.' Anyways, I still, sometimes, doubted myself. The old catalyst resurfaced. I walked many of my competitive miles. Yet, I never lost the support of my coach, my team, and my friends. I had still grown in my physical capability. I felt healthy. I simply wasn't a record-setter. As I accepted this middle ground more and more, I found my asthma faded. Now, in a different period of my life, I am not on any sports team. I do no competitive running. Yet, the asthma still has gone, even when I do run for exercise (or fun, or errands). The adrenal dysfunction remains. Is this because one program was preincarnative and the other acquired? Or because the lesson has not yet been integrated sufficiently? Or because the adrenal programming simply offers a lifetime mould for my spirit? Again, I have not yet penetrated to a single, confident conclusion. Yet, the two programs seem distinct to me. Quote:Q'uo The 'difficult quantity' here might be, I believe, our unique frequency of free will with which we are created at the dawn of time, if you will excuse the inaccurate turn of phrase, for we can intellectually assent to the idea that the dawn is an eternal dawn. I will not analyze their comments on the great smelting work of free will here now, except to relay that we are free will forged together with love. And: Quote:If you see the perfect body and wellness itself as a state of love, then you will see that fear is a choice which turns one away from the face of love. Therefore, the choice for healing is a choice to lose fear and choose love. Fortuitously, there is also a discussion of the dual-activated personage, or the active yellow and green ray bodies in one person in third-density, in this same transcript. I mentioned that I resonate with the idea of, maybe, being one of these persons. (Austin, too, has a great thread on dual-activated persons here: <https://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=2544> and there are other informative threads on this also.) The dual-activated body may contribute to the shape of the disease and defenses, both, in the body. Quote:Q'uo Elsewhere, it is mentioned that, like the Wanderers from other spheres and other densities, the dual-activated person must recapitulate the lessons of love in their return incarnation. I have the opinion that such persons might have a 'fresh game,' so to speak, in that they start off without polarity but with a high propensity for regaining whatever it was when they last were harvested. I certainly remember being an angry, obstinate, confused child. I'm a little bit better now, and still working. Quote:In terms of what body will be activated when: they are both activated now, but you are in a third-density physical vehicle. You are living on a third-density planet. You are here for a reason. So, I have my programming because I still have a third-density life, and a third-density vehicle, and that programming will help shape my lessons of love, once again. I want to know the shape. I believe I have caught a few angles and curves on that shape. Above all, I am glad to be shaped, and I look forward to exploring more, feeling more, learning more, being more. (With you!) RE: Observational Clues - Vestige - 01-20-2022 (01-20-2022, 07:50 PM)Quincunx Wrote:(01-20-2022, 06:53 PM)Vestige Wrote: Looking once more through your posts here, I find that you and I appear to share much in common! If you wouldn't mind, I want to delve now into the phenomena and role of allergies. You counsel me to examine my allergies for clues to my purpose on earth. You find allergies to be part of the negative traits. Do you mean in the sense of negative wisdom, specifically, as both Carla and Jim experienced (in, let's say, very different expressions)? Are allergies tied also to the throat chakra, if they cause anaphylaxis? My allergies to tree nuts cause anaphylaxis, while the others have not yet caused this but have this potential. Quote:Ra Material, 98.5, snippets Quote:83.2 Quote:105.2 Quote:105.11 Quote:May 6, 2017 In my experiences with my tree nut allergy, anaphylaxis is probable (though not unavoidable), immediately closing the throat. All of my allergies provide a hot, itching sensation about the forehead, face, mouth, throat, and sometimes feet. The lesser allergies often cover my arms, chest, and torso with hives. So, the attacks may be affecting profoundly the indigo and blue chakras, and less severely the green, yellow, and orange. However, it seems that, at the core, allergies and other sensitivities or intolerances represent a dishonesty in perceiving the relation between self and other-self, a blue ray blockage as you surmised, where 'other-self' can include the environment and situation as well as other persons. Indeed, the last time I had an anaphylactic attack, it was preceded by much dishonesty and discord, largely unspoken, between myself, my then-partner, and her family. Quote:Aaron-Quo Dialogues, Session 26 Quote:Aaron-Quo Dialogues, Session 25 I mentioned that I am somewhat of an iconoclast; I see no reason to cooperate with what I perceive as unskillful governments and customs. Is this consonant with the fourth or the fifth density? I used to believe active resistance was necessary, yet I never engaged in any significant acts representative thereof. I then developed the belief in non-cooperation; so does this represent a recapitulation of some lessons from the wisdom density? Q'uo mentions that each density, not just that of wisdom, is accompanied by a so-called quantum leap of organization and information. I also was much more arrogant and self-centered, assured of the potency of my intellect, when I was a little younger. Currently, I do not believe, as Ra characterizes the fifth-density Wanderer, that my "abilities to express wisdom are great." I like to conversate - that should be obvious to everyone reading this thread! I might even have a small talent with words. But, wisdom? I doubt. RE: Observational Clues - Quincunx - 01-21-2022 ------- |