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Is Non-Polarity a Choice for 6th-Density Wanderer? - Vanguardian - 01-06-2022 Basically, is non-polarity an option? Why isn't it the target of 6th density wanderers?
I might have missed something ofc, so if Ra covered this and I just can't remember then please point me in the right direction! I basically want to know about how 6th density wanderers (who aspire for 7th) should be handling themselves here. Maybe these things are addressed in Carla's book, which I haven't got to yet. In any case, your collective thoughts on this topic are valued! Thanks! ![]() RE: Is Non-Polarity a Choice for 6th-Density Wanderer? - MonadicSpectrum - 01-06-2022 Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us. I hope these responses can aid you on your journey; please take what resonates and leave the rest. ![]() I think it is most helpful to view sixth density as fully polarized positive where one becomes the most humble servant of all. The positive path is the direct path to this goal while the negative path is attempting to fully polarize negative until the folly in this pursuit is realized, and then negative beings switch polarities to continue in evolution in the sixth density. But they are already so advanced in wisdom that integrating compassion is relatively fast. In mid-sixth density, beings in sixth density become the higher self of beings in lower densities to speed up their journey's which is a service-to-other pursuit. And then, it is my belief (not shared directly in the Ra material), that seventh density cannot be achieved until all beings achieve it together at once. "The first shall be last, and the last shall be first" because at some point the first and the last become the same. When all has been united once again, then we enter the Law of Foreverness where we can proceed to harvest what we like from this octave, create the plan for the next octave of experience, and then split ourselves once more into first density from seventh density to continue our infinite journey. Here are some Ra quotes for consideration: Quote:I am Ra. The heart of the discipline of the personality is threefold. One, know yourself. Two, accept yourself. Three, become the Creator. https://www.lawofone.info/s/74#11 Quote:The sixth-density negative entity is extremely wise. It observes the spiritual entropy occurring due to the lack of ability to express the unity of sixth density. Thus, loving the Creator and realizing at some point that the Creator is not only self but other-self as self, this entity consciously chooses an instantaneous energy reorientation so that it may continue its evolution. https://www.lawofone.info/s/36#15 Quote:You are existing at all levels simultaneously. It is specifically correct that your higher self is you in mid-sixth density and, in your way of measuring what you know of as time, your higher self is your self in your future. https://www.lawofone.info/s/70#9 Quote:The Higher Self does not manipulate its past selves. It protects when possible and guides when asked, but the force of free will is paramount. The seeming contradictions of determinism and free will melt when it is accepted that there is such a thing as true simultaneity. The Higher Self is the end result of all the development experienced by the mind/body/spirit complex to that point. https://www.lawofone.info/s/70#11 Quote:In the first case only the one individual, purified of all flaws, could move a mountain. In the case of mass understanding of unity, each individual may contain an acceptable amount of distortion and yet the mass mind could move mountains. The progress is normally from the understanding which you now seek [third density] to a dimension of understanding which is governed by the laws of love [fourth density], and which seeks the laws of light [fifth density]. Those who are vibrating with the Law of Light seek the Law of One [sixth density]. Those who vibrate with the Law of One seek the Law of Foreverness [seventh density]. https://www.lawofone.info/s/3#10 Quote:I am Ra. This is due to a distortion of the Law of One which indicates that the gateway to intelligent infinity be a gateway at the end of a strait* and narrow path as you may call it. To attain fifty-one percent dedication to the welfare of other-selves is as difficult as attaining a grade of five percent dedication to other-selves. The, shall we say, sinkhole of indifference is between those two. https://www.lawofone.info/s/17#33 Quote:This is correct and further is of a major or principal importance in understanding, shall we say, the principle of balance. Balance is not indifference but rather the observer not blinded by any feelings of separation but rather fully imbued with love. https://www.lawofone.info/s/42#5 RE: Is Non-Polarity a Choice for 6th-Density Wanderer? - aWanderer91 - 01-06-2022 A great post and fantastic response from MonadicSpectrum, I can only add that just for extreme clarity's sake and a slight airbrush, Ra does mention that 6th density harvest is strictly of a social memory complex ![]() RE: Is Non-Polarity a Choice for 6th-Density Wanderer? - Patrick - 01-06-2022 If one tries to act in a non-polarizing way, they'll find themselves walking the positive path. That is because remaining neutral is just another way of saying that you accept all things just as they are. That is exactly what the positive path is all about. RE: Is Non-Polarity a Choice for 6th-Density Wanderer? - flofrog - 01-06-2022 Whoa Patrick, that was also my view, but.... much better expressed by you, lol Although, you know, action of choosing may be tempting at times, lol Great question, Vanguardian, thank you and welcome here... RE: Is Non-Polarity a Choice for 6th-Density Wanderer? - MonadicSpectrum - 01-06-2022 (01-06-2022, 07:28 PM)aWanderer91 Wrote: A great post and fantastic response from MonadicSpectrum, I can only add that just for extreme clarity's sake and a slight airbrush, Ra does mention that 6th density harvest is strictly of a social memory complex Thank you for sharing. Do you know where Ra states this? Perhaps the mind/body/spirit complex totality becomes equivalent to a social memory complex that encompasses all beings? Some other relevant quotes. Quote:I am Ra. There are no [negative]* beings which have attained the Oversoul manifestation, which is the honor/duty of the mind/body/spirit complex totality of late sixth density, as you would term it in your time measurements. These negatively oriented mind/body/spirit complexes have a difficulty which to our knowledge has never been overcome, for after fifth-density graduation wisdom is available but must be matched with an equal amount of love. This love/light is very, very difficult to achieve in unity when following the negative path and during the earlier part of the sixth density, society complexes of the negative orientation will choose to release the potential and leap into the sixth-density positive. https://www.lawofone.info/s/36#12 Quote:There is a dimension in which time does not have sway. In this dimension, the mind/body/spirit in its eternal dance of the present may be seen in totality, and before the mind/body/spirit complex which then becomes a part of the social memory complex is willingly absorbed into the allness of the One Creator, the entity knows itself in its totality. https://www.lawofone.info/s/36#1 RE: Is Non-Polarity a Choice for 6th-Density Wanderer? - aWanderer91 - 01-06-2022 My apologies, you were talking in regards to 7th density, Ra only states that harvest into 6th density is strictly of a social memory complex. 43.15 Questioner: Then is sixth-density harvest strictly of social memory complex because again we have compassion blended back using wisdom? Ra: I am Ra. This is quite correct. Your former words are probably correct Monadicspectrum and an intriguing thought too! RE: Is Non-Polarity a Choice for 6th-Density Wanderer? - Quincunx - 01-06-2022 ------- RE: Is Non-Polarity a Choice for 6th-Density Wanderer? - MonadicSpectrum - 01-06-2022 Got it, thanks aWanderer91. It is confusing language to have the word harvest with only one density attached to it. Perhaps it is a best practice to have two densities labeled in a harvest - the old one and the new one, or at least words like "into" or "from." It is possible/probable that the question you mentioned is about sixth to seventh density as well since it mentions compassion blended with wisdom in the past tense, and the previous question appears to indicate that they can graduate into sixth density without a social memory complex. Quote:43.14... This is correct although in fifth density entities may choose to learn as a social memory complex or as mind/body/spirit complexes and may graduate to sixth density under these conditions, for the wisdom density is an extremely free density whereas the lessons of compassion leading to wisdom necessarily have to do with other-selves. https://www.lawofone.info/s/43#14 Although, this is all very complex for us to understand from a third/fourth density mindset and also represent with human language. It just makes sense to me that the reason the higher self looks backward to help their past selves is because they cannot progress until the past selves progress. It may also provide some understanding of why the veil was created and why the speeding up of evolution was an important goal. But it is just a guess yet to be revealed in the distant future. At least the concept of serving past selves and seeking to become the mind/body/spirit complex totality gives us some insight into the polarity of sixth density and what is required to graduate to seventh. RE: Is Non-Polarity a Choice for 6th-Density Wanderer? - Sacred Fool - 01-06-2022 (01-06-2022, 06:52 PM)Vanguardian Wrote: I basically want to know about how 6th density wanderers (who aspire for 7th) should be handling themselves here. So, you ask this question and then someone on the internet feeds you some answers, how do you know if you should believe them? Through what means would any person be qualified to answer that question for themself or for you? I view the question as wonderful, but the means of asking not so impressive. It's like going to the hardware store and ordering a spaghetti dinner, isn't it? I would suggest that the way to explore this question is to first know your mind and your emotions and the subtle substrate from which these slippery things are crafted. I would suggest you put yourself under your own microscope until the harp strings of transformation begin to play the song of your soul for you to melt into. At that point the salient resonance of your queries might begin to open before you. In other words, if one is really serious about such things, one must condition the self to be able to live life at a level commensurate with such knowledge. Or so it would seem. RE: Is Non-Polarity a Choice for 6th-Density Wanderer? - IndigoSalvia - 01-06-2022 This is a yummy topic, and one I have considered (and stumbled around with) myself: if all energies/beings are indeed One, why would I view them as separate and choose? Also, I have a "question authority" quality within me. During my meditations, sometimes the discrete lines between STO and STS become fluid. Walking through daily life, however, the line separating STO and STS seem much more discrete. I have settled on: regardless of my spiritual origins, I am a 3D creature here in this 3D-to-4D space/time. And, when in Rome ... Also, I have appeased my own "question authority" quality because I have read and pondered extensively, and under every rock, I discover that choosing clearly resonates with me. (Since my earliest memories, my bias has been clear.) It's repeatedly presented in Law of One/Confederation material that choosing is a necessity; this is the 3D of choice. And, our choice sets the tone for our 4D through mid-6D experiences. Quo also discusses the necessity of choosing. I'm studying Gaia's transition to 4D, so below quotes are from this context. Overall, my understanding is that my choice (and my continual choosing moment by moment) has the capacity to help Gaia, and all of us inhabitants, start welcoming 4D energies. The lighthouse effect. https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/2006/0101 Quote:... it is that separation of entities into those who are moving forward and those who are caught in fear. Neither those who are graduating service to self nor those who are graduating service to others are caught in fear. The entities that are caught in fear are those who have not yet chosen how to polarize; that are simply, shall we say, resting in the cultural milieu. A little heavy-handed, but I thought: I'm ready to get off of this 3D roller coaster, and saddle up for a 4D ride. ![]() https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/2005/1015 Quote:The point is to make a choice. If you do not make a choice, then you shall, along with your culture, take one step forward and then one step back. [You will] do a service-to-others act and then be selfish. You will never gain power until you begin to make, not only that first choice, but then to hold to the determination to live in such a way that your subsequent choices build on that first choice. With every choice that you make which is consistent, you are building polarity. You are strengthening your ability to do work in consciousness, and you are becoming a magical, powerful being; the being that you were meant to be; the being that you hoped to be when you took the bold and unimaginably brave step of casting away the memory of who you are in order to enter into the world of illusion that is third density so that you could, by faith alone, choose the manner of your expression. What about you: do you notice any particular resonance in you re a choice? When you reflect back on your life, or in recent, significant experiences? RE: Is Non-Polarity a Choice for 6th-Density Wanderer? - unity100 - 01-08-2022 Polarity is rather meaningless from 6d and on, since whatever you do, you do to yourself as well as everyone else. You have to work together with the entire universe from that point on. Balance is the name of the game until you learn while graduating to 7d that temporary imbalances are also a necessary part of existence... RE: Is Non-Polarity a Choice for 6th-Density Wanderer? - Vanguardian - 01-09-2022 (01-06-2022, 09:17 PM)MonadicSpectrum Wrote: Got it, thanks aWanderer91. It is confusing language to have the word harvest with only one density attached to it. Perhaps it is a best practice to have two densities labeled in a harvest - the old one and the new one, or at least words like "into" or "from." It is possible/probable that the question you mentioned is about sixth to seventh density as well since it mentions compassion blended with wisdom in the past tense, and the previous question appears to indicate that they can graduate into sixth density without a social memory complex.Hey MonadicSpectrum, thx for the in-depth reply. Some notes:
RE: Is Non-Polarity a Choice for 6th-Density Wanderer? - Vanguardian - 01-09-2022 (01-06-2022, 11:19 PM)IndigoSalvia Wrote: This is a yummy topic, and one I have considered (and stumbled around with) myself: if all energies/beings are indeed One, why would I view them as separate and choose? Also, I have a "question authority" quality within me.Great response. Sounds like I should make a choice lol. Also, new here, I didn't even know there was such a gold mine of non-ra channeling available to speak to this topic, so pardon my late response--been busy reading! How lucky are we to have access to this information in this incarnation ![]() To your latter question, prior to like a week ago haha I'd been living under the "actively neutral" approach. It's had pretty mixed results, most notably a lot of arguably undesirable...catalysts lol. This decision was informed by a cursory reading of the Ra contact a few yrs ago and resonating extremely strongly with the 6th density lesson of balance of wisdom and compassion. I'd be happy to share more regarding my life reflections/experiences if it's of interest, but I can definitely say if there's a choice to be made in this current 3D iteration of experience ("regardless of my spiritual origins") then yea it's a no-brainer ![]() "I'm ready to get off of this 3D roller coaster, and saddle up for a 4D ride." hahahah love it, the ANTHEM RE: Is Non-Polarity a Choice for 6th-Density Wanderer? - Quincunx - 01-09-2022 ------- RE: Is Non-Polarity a Choice for 6th-Density Wanderer? - Patrick - 01-09-2022 "What else is there to do?" Ask yourself this when you feel tired of 3d. RE: Is Non-Polarity a Choice for 6th-Density Wanderer? - Dtris - 01-09-2022 The fundamental error is when we think of STO and STS as being opposite polarities we assume that once polarity is moved past or reconciled in 6th to 7th density, that polarity becomes neutral. This is belied by the Ra material which makes clear that before STS was conceptualized, the goal was to polarize as STO. In essence you had a monopole instead of a dipole. So 6th and 7th density is not neutral, it is STO because that is ultimately the current only path to the creator that Ra and Co. know of. When Wisdom and Compassion are blended the result can often look neutral. An example would be the parent who knows that something may cause a minor injury to their child, yet letting the child experience that injury to learn the lesson of danger first hand, and being there to make sure the child understands what happened and to help the child heal afterwards. Over compassion protects the child from every minor injury, stunting the growth, and over wisdom would throw the child to the proverbial wolves, to sink or swim. The STS entity would not teach the child for the child's own good, but would teach the child in such a manner for the STS entities own good. Another misconception is that the Choice is a one time thing. It is an ongoing choice. We have many small and some major choices in life that determine the cumulative effort we have made to polarize, whether consciously or not. A great example is in part three of the original Star Wars Trilogy. At the very end Vader makes a STO choice that saves Luke. This does not change his polarity by itself, but it shows that we always have choices we can make and each one is important. RE: Is Non-Polarity a Choice for 6th-Density Wanderer? - IndigoSalvia - 01-09-2022 (01-09-2022, 01:37 PM)Quincunx Wrote:(01-09-2022, 12:24 PM)Vanguardian Wrote: "I'm ready to get off of this 3D roller coaster, and saddle up for a 4D ride." Oh, I do enjoy 3D too. I feel "both/and": I both enjoy 3D, and am looking forward to 4D. The texture of this planet is so rich in every imaginable manifestation (including chocolate, dear Quincunx). ![]() I've been studying Gaia's transition to 4D, and have contemplated SMC formation here (which I believe is in its infancy already ... another discussion). Initially, like you, I thought: Oh no, I don't want to share my closet with everyone, nor do I want to see into their closets. Thanks, but no thanks. As I sat with it, I began to see the cup as half full. If I truly understood others' energies and motivations - what's deep in their head and hearts - how much understanding could arise from that! I believe understanding, acceptance and love will flourish in a 4D SMC. We will see that we are all made of the same stuff: fear, love, jealousy, patience, etc. We express it differently; or, we have different resonances. Once we see into one another's true hearts, we see our kinship. 3D offers a rich venue for exploring our uniqueness. 4D offers a rich venue for exploring our sameness. Imagine someone who we feel has wronged us. Then, imagine peering into their head and heart. There we might find fear which led them to act in a certain way (that we found undesirable). Then we see fear in our own heart as well. Understanding sprouts from this common ground. As we open up to 4D, and the veil dissolves, I understand that the honesty and transparency will be freeing and opening. There will be nothing we can deny/hide from ourselves, most importantly, and others. Both uniqueness and sameness exists within us simultaneously. Seems to me that 3D's gaze is on uniqueness and expressions thereof, and 4D's gaze is on sameness ... both in their own way bringing us closer to Oneness. This is my understanding today, and it may well evolve tomorrow. ![]() RE: Is Non-Polarity a Choice for 6th-Density Wanderer? - IndigoSalvia - 01-09-2022 (01-09-2022, 08:02 PM)Dtris Wrote: The fundamental error is when we think of STO and STS as being opposite polarities we assume that once polarity is moved past or reconciled in 6th to 7th density, that polarity becomes neutral. This is really interesting. I wanted STO and STS to be two separate, nice and neat categories with no overlap, but they are not for me. I can see fine nuances of both STO (unity) and STS (separation) every day in my choices. And, it prompts introspection. I can ponder a simple choice I made, and see both STO and STS perspectives in the same choice. ![]() It helps me somewhat to think of choices in terms of whether I am honoring our unity (Oneness), or our separateness. This is all happening in my intellectual and rational brain which can't quite get its hands around it. My instinct and intuition, though, is much more clear about its resonance. I feel on-balance or off-balance, for lack of better words. Then, my brain tries to catch up. ![]() RE: Is Non-Polarity a Choice for 6th-Density Wanderer? - flofrog - 01-10-2022 Chocolate is such a good point, quincunx. ![]() RE: Is Non-Polarity a Choice for 6th-Density Wanderer? - Diana - 01-10-2022 Choice of polarity is the basis for 3D, according to Ra: Quote:77.16 ▶ Questioner: What I am really attempting to understand, since all of these twenty-one philosophical bases result in the twenty-second which is The Choice, is why this choice is so important, why the Logos, it seems, puts so much emphasis on this choice, and what function that choice of polarity is, precisely, in the evolution or the experience of that which is created by the Logos? For further context, the purpose of 2D, according to Ra: Quote:13.21 ▶ Questioner: Then how does the second density progress to the third? So without being harvested, a 3D entity would not get to 4D, 5D, etc. Accepting the choice of STS as an expression of all there is, is not the same as non-polarity. It is simply non-judgment. The STS path in 6D will not be able to move forward at a certain point, according to Ra, as separation will only work so far though it is a legitimate way to get that far. Just as cosmologists and physicists are exploring the idea that everything is literally connected in the subatomic world indicating the wholeness of the entire universe, in addition to the progression from the Newtonian concept of the cosmos which only works up to a point as it does not embrace the larger truth, at some point along the path of consciousness in the play enacted by STS entities they must embrace the truth of existence or stay in a loop of that limited role (and I am not sure Ra talked about this, but I would assume to do so would cause entropy). RE: Is Non-Polarity a Choice for 6th-Density Wanderer? - Loki - 01-10-2022 (01-06-2022, 06:52 PM)Vanguardian Wrote: Basically, is non-polarity an option? Why isn't it the target of 6th density wanderers? There are few things about sixth density which are interesting. First half of sixth there are two polarities negative and positive which still antagonize but only philosophically. Second half of the sixth density there is only one polarity left. But what is that polarity? Is it positive, negative or none? I believe the polarity it is given by the only known limitation of the one infinite Creator which is singularity. The Creator can only manifest plurality (and as result separation) as an illusion and fundamentally he/she is One at every point of its existence. If we consider separation as negative and unity as positive we can see that the Creator is always positive (because of its infinite singular nature) except for a brief negative polarity expressed only in the illusion from third to mid sixth density. This is why after the middle of the sixth density the only polarity left is the one of unity which is positive. But wanderers come only from the first part of the sixth density (This is the point where the Higher Self still exists independently from Self) when the two polarities still exist. After the middle of sixth density Self and Higher Self become one and the polarity become positive absolute. Beyond mid sixth density as Ra explains the Self unified with the Higher Self shift focus from Creation to Creator and as result loose the desire of wandering. RE: Is Non-Polarity a Choice for 6th-Density Wanderer? - Patrick - 01-10-2022 Ra called the negative polarity "that which is not". So what is left for the second half of 6D is certainly not STS. RE: Is Non-Polarity a Choice for 6th-Density Wanderer? - Vanguardian - 01-10-2022 (01-10-2022, 02:34 PM)Loki Wrote:(01-06-2022, 06:52 PM)Vanguardian Wrote: Basically, is non-polarity an option? Why isn't it the target of 6th density wanderers? Wowow last paragraph interesting and addresses the crux of my inquiry, ty Loki!! Could you please link me/reference which session/channeling this info (last paragraph) comes from so I can read more -- seems like you found the jackpot I'm looking for. RE: Is Non-Polarity a Choice for 6th-Density Wanderer? - Quincunx - 01-11-2022 ------- RE: Is Non-Polarity a Choice for 6th-Density Wanderer? - MrWho - 02-21-2022 It's an interesting concept and perhaps has some realistic occurence. Let's think logically about wanderers and the reason they have come. In general. So we have few 4th density wanderers. Who come to begin doing 4th density work in the new 4th density atmosphere. If I recall fewer still fifth density wanderers. Who likely come for the purpose to polarize more efficiently in their chosen polarity. Some maybe who come to serve in other ways. Then we have 6th density wanderers who are the majority; who's express purpose is to assist in the transition dangering the possibility of "helping to aid in the destruction". They have not come to polarize. And Ra claims that they themselves as a 6th density being are not of polarity. So if a wanderer is meant to remember to some degree. Certainly they would remember the more general landscape that makes up the 6th density? While it is obvious that there are infinite valid paths and shades of positive negative and indifferent. I think it is more than fair and possibly more accurate that there is, in general a 4th path. A path of Unity. Thank you for the compelling question. Infinite love/light light/love. RE: Is Non-Polarity a Choice for 6th-Density Wanderer? - flofrog - 02-21-2022 Good to see you here, Mr. Who ! ![]() RE: Is Non-Polarity a Choice for 6th-Density Wanderer? - MrWho - 02-21-2022 You too flofrog! Hope you're doing well, I appreciate it RE: Is Non-Polarity a Choice for 6th-Density Wanderer? - unity100 - 03-23-2022 There is always a need for balancing for even entities that are nearing 7d. Be it having to polarize to this side to balance the other side or vice versa. RE: Is Non-Polarity a Choice for 6th-Density Wanderer? - zedro - 03-24-2022 As far as 6d wanderers go, they are already polarized, polarization is in the spiritual level, they don't need to prove it again, they just need to remember (probably only fully when the logos allows). However as Ra warned, you can flip to the negative, especially the closer you get to your true powers, because of the distortions you picked up during a challenging 3d incarnation. In this case you would start over to explore that new polarity, because you essentially seeked it out, thus creating a karmic tie. This is why shadow work is so important IMO, it can be dangerous to wield power and not fully understand your full nature, and it's guaranteed that negative polarized 4d and 5d entities have been doing their best to work on you if there's any chance of turning you or disrupting your service. I think 6d wanderers who understand this are also greatly misunderstood and frequently accused of looking towards the negative by those who aren't subjected to the same pressures. There's a certain fanaticism to looking at and trying to live up to the STO construct, but sometimes that could simply be fully understanding one's nature and predicament without judgement, at least in their current situation. I believe the learning for 6d in this context is the experience to ride this delicate line in extraordinary circumstances. How does a missionary warrior drop into the theater of spiritual war and keep his soul intact, as they get punished for the service they are going to attempt to accomplish in the future? |