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Are we mind? - AnthroHeart - 01-25-2022

I saw a Jesus channeling that said we are mind not a body. And that we are in a dream.

Does any of the Ra Material corroborate this?


RE: Are we mind? - Patrick - 01-25-2022

The body is a manifestation of the mind and I think that since each steps away from Oneness is less "real", then the Spirit is more real than the mind and the mind is more real than the body. Ra mostly says that we are within an illusion, but I would surmise that the meaning is the same as the channeling you are referring to where it says we are in a dream.

Quote:17.38 Questioner: Well, does each… does… this is difficult. Our physical plane: Are there seven sub-planes to what we call our physical plane here?

Ra: I am Ra. You are correct. This is difficult to understand. There are an infinite number of planes. In your particular space/time continuum distortion there are seven sub-planes of mind/body/spirit complexes. You will discover the vibrational nature of these seven planes as you pass through your experiential distortions, meeting other-selves of the various levels which correspond to the energy influx centers of the physical vehicle.

The invisible, or inner, third-density planes are inhabited by those who are not of body complex natures such as yours; that is, they do not collect about their spirit/mind complexes a chemical body. Nevertheless these entities are divided in what you may call an artificial dream within a dream into various levels. In the upper levels, desire to communicate knowledge back down to the outer planes of existence becomes less, due to the intensive learn/teaching which occurs upon these levels.

Quote:86.7 Questioner: You stated that dreaming, if made available to the conscious mind, will aid greatly in polarization. Would you define dreaming or tell us what it is and how it aids in polarization?

Ra: I am Ra. Dreaming is an activity of communication through the veil of the unconscious mind and the conscious mind. The nature of this activity is wholly dependent upon the situation regarding the energy center blockages, activations, and crystallizations of a given mind/body/spirit complex.

In one who is blocked at two of the three lower energy centers dreaming will be of value in the polarization process in that there will be a repetition of those portions of recent catalyst as well as deeper-held blockages, thereby giving the waking mind clues as to the nature of these blockages and hints as to possible changes in perception which may lead to the unblocking.

This type of dreaming or communication through the veiled portions of the mind occurs also with those mind/body/spirit complexes which are functioning with far less blockage and enjoying the green-ray activation or higher activation at those times at which the mind/body/spirit complex experiences catalyst, momentarily reblocking or baffling or otherwise distorting the flow of energy influx. Therefore, in all cases it is useful to a mind/body/spirit complex to ponder the content and emotive resonance of dreams.

For those whose green-ray energy centers have been activated as well as for those whose green-ray energy centers are offered an unusual unblockage due to extreme catalyst, such as what is termed the physical death of the self or one which is beloved occurring in what you may call your near future, dreaming takes on another activity. This is what may loosely be termed precognition or a knowing which is prior to that which shall occur in physical manifestation in your yellow-ray third-density space/time. This property of the mind depends upon its placement, to a great extent, in time/space so that the terms of present and future and past have no meaning. This will, if made proper use of by the mind/body/spirit complex, enable this entity to enter more fully into the all-compassionate love of each and every circumstance including those circumstances against which an entity may have a strong distortion towards what you may call unhappiness.

As a mind/body/spirit complex consciously chooses the path of the adept and, with each energy center balanced to a minimal degree, begins to open the indigo-ray energy center, the so-called dreaming becomes the most efficient tool for polarization, for, if it is known by the adept that work may be done in consciousness while the so-called conscious mind rests, this adept may call upon those which guide it, those presences which surround it, and, most of all, the magical personality which is the higher self in space/time analog as it moves into the sleeping mode of consciousness. With these affirmations attended to, the activity of dreaming reaches that potential of learn/teaching which is most helpful to increasing the distortions of the adept towards its chosen polarity.

There are other possibilities of the dreaming not so closely aligned with the increase in polarity which we do not cover at this particular space/time.



RE: Are we mind? - dreamoftheiris - 01-25-2022

Hermes wrote in The Divine Pyramander


Quote:“The union of the Word and the Mind produces that mystery which is called Life.”


1 into 3 produces the 7.  Before there is the physical, there is the mind, which informs the physical.  


Hermes also writes, 

"That which in you sees and hears is not of the earth, but is the Word of God incarnate."

The Word refers to that which is behind and that which informs the letter.  Thus, you are the Word which informs the letter - i.e. the Spirit which informs the Mind which in turn informs the Body.


RE: Are we mind? - Spaced - 01-26-2022

"Let us for a moment consider thought. What is it, my friends, to take thought? Took you then thought today? What thoughts did you think today? What thoughts were part of the original thought today? In how many of your thoughts did the creation abide? Was love contained? And was service freely given? You are not part of a material universe. You are part of a thought. You are dancing in a ballroom in which there is no material. You are dancing thoughts. You move your body, your mind, and your spirit in somewhat eccentric patterns for you have not completely grasped the concept that you are part of the original thought."


RE: Are we mind? - jafar - 01-26-2022

All is one, and that one is love/light, light/love, the infinite Creator.
all things are one,
that there is no polarity,
no right or wrong,
no disharmony,
but only identity.

As thus, it implies:
You are every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation.
You are unity.
You are infinity.
You are love/light, light/love.
You are.
This is the Law of One.

Body is a form of identity, any type of body, it's a form of energy and it's temporal.
As it's the nature of energy to continuously changing, thus no 'body' or 'identity' is static or eternal.

You will lose your current body and perhaps gained another one, perhaps in different form.
Through 'body' an infinite can become 'finite'.
The 'body' helped to create a virtual border between 'me' and 'others'.
Thus multiple identities / many-ness can be experienced by the infinite.

So tie it back to the original statement, you are not (only) your current body, you are actually everything which temporarily experiencing many-ness through the illusion of separation.


RE: Are we mind? - Loki - 01-27-2022

(01-25-2022, 06:43 PM)AnthroHeart Wrote: I saw a Jesus channeling that said we are mind not a body. And that we are in a dream.

Does any of the Ra Material corroborate this?
In April 1 2006 channelling session there is an interesting Q/A.

We have one more from P who would like to know, “When does the seed of thought begin?”


We are those of Q’uo, and would like to say that this shall be the final query of this session. We thank the one known as P for this question, it is an interesting one.
The seed of any thought is thought itself. The Logos is the original Thought. All thoughts spring form the Logos. Unconditional love is the essence of the Logos. Therefore the seed of every thought is love.

Based on this important clarification I have created an oversimplified concept of the creation:

There is a tri-layer creation structure:                                                 Infinite Intelligence (Creator)              -          Logos                 -                 Creation
Entities are composed of three ingredients one from each layer:                Consciousness                           -           Love                  -                   Light
Entities interfaces with each layer of the creation structure:                               Spirit                                  -            Mind                  -                  Body
Self has three aspects in each octave:                                              mind/body/spirit Complex Totality       -        Higher Self             -       mind/body/spirit complex


RE: Are we mind? - Quincunx - 01-27-2022

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RE: Are we mind? - tadeus - 01-29-2022

(01-25-2022, 06:43 PM)AnthroHeart Wrote: I saw a Jesus channeling that said we are mind not a body. And that we are in a dream.

Does any of the Ra Material corroborate this?

This is the first hermetic principle:

Quote:1. The principle of mentalism
"The All is Mind; the Universe is Mental."