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RE: The current Ukraine crisis... - Loki - 03-21-2022

(03-21-2022, 08:14 AM)Patrick Wrote: My understanding of the Great Reset narrative is that the Elites, being fully aware that money is obsolete, are expending a lot of efforts in order to help maintain the status quo. They created a narrative within the conspiration circles that a financial reset is coming where they will end up with all the control. They would like us to fear losing our status quo and fight against a next generation system. But in reality, they already have all the control in our current system while the next generation system will be decentralized and uncontrollable.

Anyway, they can only slow down what is coming. Does anyone here believe we will still be using money in 4d ?

Ra was channelling in 1980s the "de facto" "grand reset" of 3D to 4D. This planet is dying with the status quo, because over-population, over-consumption, pollution and global warming. All we can think of is war. War resolves all the problems according to some and in a way they might be right because we eliminate each-other war by war. It is proven current social economic model is unsustainable but is not the war that will save us.

It is funny because the 4D will be global society without borders and people will be careful with their resources in order to live in harmony with the planet. This seem to be the future the people are afraid of.
Indeed looks scary and if you think the second amendment will be obsolete.... God protect us !!!!!!


RE: The current Ukraine crisis... - aWanderer91 - 03-21-2022

They can only slow down what is coming, extremely delusional on their part (the elite) with their continued efforts, but they can clearly see with mass awakenings and an influx of cosmic energies that something is changing and it's out of their hands how the future will look in the next centuries to come.

I don't believe money will be necessary in 4D, I can't see us using it as once awake and a being can see through the illusion, they see the uselessness of money as a sustainable system. 4D would also see our entrance into the galactic community and money would mean nothing in this regard.


RE: The current Ukraine crisis... - Loki - 03-21-2022

(03-21-2022, 10:17 AM)aWanderer91 Wrote: They can only slow down what is coming, extremely delusional on their part (the elite) with their continued efforts, but they can clearly see with mass awakenings and an influx of cosmic energies that something is changing and it's out of their hands how the future will look in the next centuries to come.

I don't believe money will be necessary in 4D, I can't see us using it as once awake and a being can see through the illusion, they see the uselessness of money as a sustainable system. 4D would also see our entrance into the galactic community and money would mean nothing in this regard.

I hope you are right but on the other hand I see the elites in USA, China, Russia, Europe showing off their muscles and bumping their chests.


RE: The current Ukraine crisis... - aWanderer91 - 03-21-2022

Wars are getting harder to pull off. The lies, deceit and manipulation is easier to see through and what was once a necessity (we have to go to war with this country for this so called "moral reason") is now being seen through as a justification for slaughter and greed.

I don't fear the nuclear bomb threats, I don't believe the governments are allowed to use them. From my own research, intuition and reasoning I believe they are forbidden. Many wanderers are here, many social memory complexes have beings here from their own family and I don't believe the galactic community would ever allow them (the government) to detonate one.

Not only would it affect other planets in this solar system if this planet happened to be destroyed, it would also cause grave harm to higher density beings who are here, who feel no need to have such an experience.

My point is, we shouldn't ignore our own responsibility to obtain inner peace, to serve others and to be the love we want to see in the world, but also I see the governments hitting many brick walls nowadays. They are powerless in the grand scheme of things, only we as a population must become more accountable for ourselves and in turn we will be able to sway the current scheme of things into a more positive direction.

The dragon (the elites) is thrashing its tail, yes. But nothing good can come from what they do, even for themselves.


RE: The current Ukraine crisis... - Loki - 03-21-2022

(03-21-2022, 11:25 AM)aWanderer91 Wrote: Wars are getting harder to pull off. The lies, deceit and manipulation is easier to see through and what was once a necessity (we have to go to war with this country for this so called "moral reason") is now being seen through as a justification for slaughter and greed.

I don't fear the nuclear bomb threats, I don't believe the governments are allowed to use them. From my own research, intuition and reasoning I believe they are forbidden. Many wanderers are here, many social memory complexes have beings here from their own family and I don't believe the galactic community would ever allow them (the government) to detonate one.

Not only would it affect other planets in this solar system if this planet happened to be destroyed, it would also cause grave harm to higher density beings who are here, who feel no need to have such an experience.

My point is, we shouldn't ignore our own responsibility to obtain inner peace, to serve others and to be the love we want to see in the world, but also I see the governments hitting many brick walls nowadays. They are powerless in the grand scheme of things, only we as a population must become more accountable for ourselves and in turn we will be able to sway the current scheme of things into a more positive direction.

The dragon (the elites) are thrashing their tails, yes. But nothing good can come from what they do, even for themselves.

And this is why I believed the Ukraine war was impossible.
If someone reads Ra Material and then is afraid of anything including the "great reset" it means he/she did not gasp the meaning of Ra Material.

But catalyst is catalyst. The catalyst is as the reading week in university. We have the chance to learn intensively, in very short years all that we should have learned in thousands years and we didn't.


RE: The current Ukraine crisis... - aWanderer91 - 03-21-2022

One can only hope and pray that this is the last war needed to find the love in ourselves. We have the opportunity now to surrender to divine love and create much better solutions for this planet.

Outside protest means nothing when the protest and conflict within ourselves to surrender to the present moment remains unresolved.

The insanity of war has to stop, for the planets sake.


RE: The current Ukraine crisis... - IndigoSalvia - 03-21-2022

(03-21-2022, 11:25 AM)aWanderer91 Wrote: Wars are getting harder to pull off. The lies, deceit and manipulation is easier to see through and what was once a necessity (we have to go to war with this country for this so called "moral reason") is now being seen through as a justification for slaughter and greed.

I agree. There is more and more love flowing amongst us, and in a loving environment, bellicosity can not thrive. There is greater ability to see self in others. 

I see generosity, sharing, and caring for one another growing. Where we used to turn to our governments - those few decision-makers for the majority of the populace - we are now increasingly turning to one another, and extending our hands. 

I believe that every act of kindness - from the tiniest to the largest - is a seed that grows exponentially at this time upon our planet.


RE: The current Ukraine crisis... - flofrog - 03-21-2022

I think it is visible by more and more people how wars are only determined by a infinitely small, small group of people, lies becoming more visible too, exactly as it is said often here. Whatever the plus and minus of the internet, it has helped this.


RE: The current Ukraine crisis... - IndigoSalvia - 03-22-2022

I am reading this session: https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/2016/0305

The question posed to Hatonn is, in essence, how do we balance a desire to both a) honor catalyst (which may bring suffering) as designed in pre-incarnative choices, and b) a desire to relieve suffering.

Hatonn poses many provocative questions to explore ... yet, all within the 3D environment of not truly knowing.

As I consider/meditate on my own desire to relieve suffering in many situations, including Ukraine -- much of it far beyond my "reach" -- this session provides me more ways to view my position/perspective, as I perch in a precarious balancing act. 
  • Has one (or many) pre-incarnatively chosen the suffering situation in which one/many finds itself? I can not know. 
  • Will offering this or that service (whether spiritual or physical) have the intended effect? I can not know. 

"How is one ever to know what service befits a circumstance which very likely is so complicated, which very likely is so deeply resonant at levels unseen, that no remedy one has ready can suffice in supplying what is needed."

"Your part is not to try to figure out why the entity suffers, what the lessons could be. Your part is to look upon this entity as one which you may be able to aid, that may play a part in your own growth in providing the service that you feel is potentially helpful in relieving the suffering."

In recognition of what I can not know, I am gently led back to a place of loving light, intelligent and infinite on its own, that may flow through me where it may.

"Learning to love under all possible circumstances is indeed the goal which each of you seeks" in this 3D - not lack of suffering, not happiness.


RE: The current Ukraine crisis... - tadeus - 03-23-2022

The perfect song for this thread:




https://www.songtexte.com/songtext/system-of-a-down/byob-5bd083c0.html Wrote:B.Y.O.B. Songtext

You!

Why do they always send the poor?

Barbarisms by Barbaras
With pointed heels
Victorious, victories kneel
For brand new spankin′ deals

Marching forward hypocritic
And hypnotic computers
You depend on our protection
Yet you feed us lies from the tablecloth

La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, oooh

Everybody's going to the party, have a real good time
Dancing in the desert, blowing up the sunshine

Kneeling roses disappearing
Into Moses′s dry mouth
Breaking into Fort Knox
Stealing our intentions


Hangars ceiling dripped in oil
Crying freedom
Handed to obsoletion
Still you feed us lies from the tablecloth

La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, oooh

Everybody's going to the party, have a real good time
Dancing in the desert, blowing up the sunshine
Everybody's going to the party, have a real good time
Dancing in the desert, blowing up the sunshine

Blast off
It′s party time
And we don′t live in a fascist nation

Blast off
It's party time
And where the f*** are you?

...

German translated text


RE: The current Ukraine crisis... - flofrog - 03-23-2022

IndigoSalvia, I like your post and after reading it, it seems one of many  options is still to get back to simplicity and just send love.

Eckhart Tollé has an interesting podcast on how to temporarily detach
Eckhart


RE: The current Ukraine crisis... - flofrog - 03-23-2022

(03-23-2022, 04:32 AM)tadeus Wrote: The perfect song for this thread:




German translated text
Tadeus, that might apply to many wars of the past, right ?


RE: The current Ukraine crisis... - unity100 - 03-23-2022

The situation in Ukraine is a great lesson in negative polarization and how the negatively polarized behave.

To understand it, one must understand the background and development of the situation and its main actors - mainly, these:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century

These people have been advocating and building the situation in Ukraine for a long time. Openly, in their think-thank produced papers, publications in foreign policy journals, in their speeches to donors.

Their strategy advocated three things:

- Use Ukraine as an 'Afghanistan' to 'bog down' and 'neutralize' Russia as a rival.

- Drive Eu and Russia apart so that Eu would not be buying cheap Russian oil and gas for their industry to remove Eu as an economic competitor

- And by the above means, sabotage the New Silk Road that China is building to connect Europe with Asia.

In general, this was just an extension of USA's post 1991 policy of using Eastern Europe as a means to surround Russia and to place anti-missile batteries on its immediate border to be able to shoot down nuclear missiles as they launch during a nuclear war. Which would give the US the first strike capability without Russia being able to retaliate - a very dangerous situation that would give total power to the hands of the military-industry complex in the US.

For that end, CIA had been always using far right extremists and even Nazis in Eastern Europe to train 'militias' against Soviets during the Cold War, and later, against Russia after 1991. At this point note that neither CIA has any issues using the most sociopathic elements available anywhere, but even the US Senate has no issues assisting them.

https://theintercept.com/2022/02/18/ukraine-weapons-neo-nazis-bob-menendez/

For this end, such elements like Nazis, far right extremists and cooperative were used by the US in 2014 to effect a regime change in Ukraine just a few months after China announced the New Silk Road project in 2014. And neocon warhawk characters like John McCain, Victoria Nulands played the starring roles. Nulands even openly went to the protesters occupying the Maidan square, and she distributed them cookies as a sign of support.

After the coup, the now-US-friendly regime allowed CIA to do whatever they want whereas they themselves privatized the entire country and sold it to US corporations. The Ukrainian people's average income steeply declined and they were stripped of their public services and amenities - much like what happened to Americans in the US.

In the following 8 years, CIA kept arming and training Nazis in the south, who openly said that they were going to ethnically cleanse Russian speaking Ukrainians, because they were 'untermensch' and they had to be either killed/eradicated or become enslaved. The actual Nazi ideology, not the anti-immigrant Neonazi stuff.

Worse, these lot had backing of the CIA and they evolved form a few hundred far-right hooligans to an entire brigade (3000~ soldiers) of Nazi army, complete with their own state-insidide-the-state, with their own Hitlerjugend. Moreover, they started effecting pogroms against gypsies, romanis.

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/neo-nazis-far-right-ukraine/

The Nation article only summarizes it and does not show the details of how a pogrom looks like, less explain its meaning. If you have the stomach, you can google it.

Worse, they started actually doing the ethnic cleansing they spoke about - they started shelling civilian neighborhoods in the Russian-speaking south, killing ~14,000 people during 8 years.

Various international measures were taken against this, via OSCE - the security framework in Europe - but Nazis paid no heed to the decisions that their government signed, neither they obeyed the diplomatic resolutions' articles.

During this time, the Ukrainian government not only kept supplying and arming these Nazis instead of repressing them, but also they integrated them into the Ukrainian army. They were either cooperative with the Nazis, or they had no power over the Nazis.

This is what happened when the elected (current) Ukrainian president asked the Nazis in the south to have a cease-fire and stop shelling civilians:

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/03/zelensky-and-the-fascists-he-will-hang-on-some-tree-on-khreshchatyk.html#more

In a face-to-face confrontation with militants from the neo-Nazi Azov Battalion who had launched a campaign to sabotage the peace initiative called “No to Capitulation,” Zelensky encountered a wall of obstinacy.

With appeals for disengagement from the frontlines firmly rejected, Zelensky melted downon camera. “I’m the president of this country. I’m 41 years old. I’m not a loser. I came to you and told you: remove the weapons,” Zelensky implored the fighters.
...

Once video of the stormy confrontation spread across Ukrainian social media channels, Zelensky became the target of an angry backlash.

Quote:In a face-to-face confrontation with militants from the neo-Nazi Azov Battalion who had launched a campaign to sabotage the peace initiative called “No to Capitulation,” Zelensky encountered a wall of obstinacy.

With appeals for disengagement from the frontlines firmly rejected, Zelensky melted downon camera. “I’m the president of this country. I’m 41 years old. I’m not a loser. I came to you and told you: remove the weapons,” Zelensky implored the fighters.
...

Once video of the stormy confrontation spread across Ukrainian social media channels, Zelensky became the target of an angry backlash.

Andriy Biletsky, the proudly fascist Azov Battalion leader who once pledged to “lead the white races of the world in a final crusade…against Semite-led Untermenschen”, vowed to bring thousands of fighters to Zolote if Zelensky pressed any further. Meanwhile, a parliamentarian from the party of former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko openly fantasized about Zelensky being blown to bits by a militant’s grenade.

Though Zelensky achieved a minor disengagement, the neo-Nazi paramilitaries escalated their “No Capitulation” campaign. And within months, fighting began to heat up again in Zolote, sparking a new cycle of violations of the Minsk Agreement.

By this point, Azov had been formally incorporated into the Ukrainian military and its street vigilante wing, known as the National Corps, was deployed across the country under the watch of the Ukrainian Interior Ministry, and alongside the National Police. In December 2021, Zelensky would be seen delivering a “Hero of Ukraine” award to a leader of the fascistic Right Sector in a ceremony in Ukraine’s parliament.

They openly threatened their own president with blowing them up with a grenade and they did it on public social networks.

Therefore Ukrainian government was either unwilling, or unable to do anything about them.

Meanwhile US kept ramping up the project, and started arming Ukraine and preparing it openly for a war against Russia. So much that they also opened 8-9 biological warfare labs in Ukraine which Victoria Nulands openly, bluntly stated to exist in a congressional hearing, despite US corporate media vehemently denying them. If there is one thing about the neocon Victoria Nuland, it is how honest she is when she is facing military-industry complex donors and congressmen/senators.

All of these were to force Russia to intervene. Russian law requires that Russian government protect the rights of ethnic Russians. Moreover, most of the Russian speaking Ukrainians in the south and east acquired Russian citizenship due to the Russian law that allows ex-Soviet citizens who were alive in 1991 to receive Russian citizenship immediately upon application. Therefore, the situation with Nazis (Azov and assorted ones, all of them) in the south shelling civilian neighborhoods and killing ethnic Russians became a Russian domestic problem - for now Russian citizens were being killed.

But this still did not make Russia to intervene as the neocons hoped. So, they cranked up to full gear by having their satellite government in Ukraine to apply for NATO membership - Russia's red line.

I very much suspect the intervention would still not happen if the Nazis in the south stepped back when Russia did some military exercises in the region to send a message. This happened 4-5 times before - the Ukrainian government was about to have the Nazis in the south to subdue the breakaway Russian speaking regions, but after Russia did military exercises around the border, they backed down. This time apparently, Ukrainian government did not rescind the order to overrun the Russian speaking regions. Hence, Russia suddenly intervened after the military exercises. This information may not be accurate since it comes from foreign correspondents who have been following the region for 30+ years, so even if they have long-time contacts within each of these countries' governments and establishments, it is hard to verify the claims.

However what is impossible to miss is that the US cranked up the gear all the way until Russia intervened.

The result has been a great success for the US - corporate media created an immense propaganda against Russia to alienate Russia from Europe just like how they made such propaganda in 2003 before Iraq war. This forced the hands of European governments to sanction Russia at the cost of their own economies. Not only many European businesses lost their Russian market, but also Europe was forced to buy expensive open market or American gas and oil instead of cheap Russian one, pushing Europe into a recession:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-03-09/european-industry-starts-shutting-down-as-energy-prices-soar

The incessant propaganda mounted not only directly by American corporate media but by their surrogates in the Eu has even created a racist environment in which Russians themselves are targeted. Various private corporate channels in the Eu are doing long-term propaganda even, by constantly putting blonde, blue-eyed children on the TV in the background behind gigantic headlines that say "This cant be forgotten".

Black, brown kids were not human enough for them to do propaganda against the US as the US killed 1 million of them in Iraq or Afghanistan. But apparently, blonde kids with blue eyes are human enough.

As a sidenote, this particular TV channel that i am using as an example has an owner who is a dual German & American citizen. And the channel is broadcasting in Spain.

The propaganda was so strong that it caused a lot of supposedly anti-war segments (even including liberals) to outright ask for world war 3 or signal that they would support that. So much that it forced the US establishment, German government and various proponents of this project to come out and say that that would be nuclear war and they wouldnt do that.

This level of propaganda was only possible by utterly censoring and shutting out the other side's perspective, of course. A Spanish journalist was arrested in Poland for reporting from the ground that Ukraine didnt seem to be winning the war as the European media claimed, and a Latvian youtuber was arrested by Latvian government on the request of the Eu for presenting the Russian viewpoint and talking about Nazis.

Meanwhile Ukrainian government constantly lies, not only about the nature of Ukraine and the existence of Nazis, but even the actual happenings themselves and the Western corporate media reports it. So much that when caught and called out for multiple lies that were conveyed by NYT, NYT outright came out and say that yeah, their side was lying, but it was 'okay'.

https://i.imgur.com/kaUJbYa.jpg

No different than 2003 Iraq War. Maybe even worse - now they admit that they are lying and but they are saying that it is 'okay'.

In the process, we also learned that the freedom of speech and democracy thing in the West was a scam - not only metaphorically, but also in actual practice. News media, independent journalists, foreign press that reported the other sides' perspective were arrested or shut down. Even those who questioned the propaganda of the Western side were repressed and persecuted in Europe.

In the US, private corporations like Google are too busy censoring whatever outlet that the US establishment doesn't like. They are fake news, they are lying. Even as CNN, Fox, NBC et al, who lied about nonexistent Iraqi WMDs for 8 years straight, and who are lying right at this moment stay on their platform.

Meanwhile the war ramps up, and the Nazis in the south get even more psychopatic as they are surrounded. They use human shields, and they torture and kill civilians for trying to escape from cities - and they openly post those videos on social media to scare people from escaping so that they will stay in cities to be used as human shields. The videos of such incidents are too brutal and intolerable, so I wont post them here. Google at your own risk.

But one thing comes out as a spiritual lesson - those who negatively polarize have no qualms: Just like how CIA uses the most extreme elements to effect its policies, the elements it uses have no qualms in killing, torturing people to effect fear to get what they want. This is no different from CIA getting guidebooks that taught 'how to kill fleeing villagers to effect most fear in the population' back in 1970 using US taxpayer money. Nothing changed - they were so psychopathic then, they are the same now.

Another spiritual lesson is that lying, greedy people have no issues with violating any principles they espouse. Total lack of principles and dishonesty comes out as a trait of the negatively polarized even as we see a lot of prominent personas and factions in the US establishment having no qualms about using Nazis and even funding them directly.

The added scam of 'fundraising' for sending arms to 'Ukraine', a lot of which will go to those Nazis is an added evil - they are literally emotionally manipulating gullible public to support something that they would never support if they were not deceived enough.

So, this is a case of the biggest evil that plagues this world, the military-industry complex in the US, doing its thing again at the risk of a nuclear war. There is another lesson about negative polarity - if they cant get their way, they have no qualms burning it all down, be it a nuclear war.

Another additional lesson is that they have no principles and they have no consideration for the world outside them - even as they put Nazis and they are trying to put missiles on the border of a society that they chose as their enemy on their path to world domination, they see themselves entitled to do that. The enemy must just lay down and die. If they don't, its a violation of their self-sense of their power and they react even more harshly.

However...

There are some good things happening as a result of this sociopathic act of negative factions.

In contrast to their plan of having Russia go tits up, this action has caused a multi polar world to be created.

Russia turned its face towards Asia, Africa and the general global south.

Russia and China started the CIPS international financial transfer system, breaking the monopoly of the SWIFT. Which was a major tool that the US was using to starve the countries it targeted with sanctions.

Not only Russia, but also China, India, Pakistan and even Saudi Arabia are now trading in national currencies, ending the dollar's reserve currency hegemony which was used by the military-industry complex for decades to print dollars from the Federal Reserve like a banana republic to spend it on the military. Remember that Federal Reserve has been never audited in its history, and the only audit it received was the limited audit it had when Bernie Sanders forced an audit a few years ago. Aside from that, nobody knows what the Fed is doing. But the economists and foreign policy experts who say that Fed is feeding the US military budget by printing money while exploiting dollar's reserve currency status to avoid inflation seem to have been right.

Additionally, Russia showed to entire world what happens to private property, 'rule of law', 'free market' and all that when the US just wants - all of them can be violated in a second, entire countries' reserves can be stolen in a day, actual individuals' private property and livelihood can be robbed with just an order. This has proved to entire world that trusting a financial system that is dominated by the US was a bad idea.

Russia also showed that the US military, leave aside its proxy armies or 'freedom fighter' extremists can be beaten - not only in Syria, but also now in Ukraine. NATO countries are sending their latest equipment to Ukraine, and all of them are getting busted. Including the mercenaries and special forces that they are sending as 'volunteers'. The independent countries can now rely in Russian, Chinese, Indian military equipment and technology to stand against the US and its domination. This relates to Ra's statement about 'forces of freedom' standing up to two strong blocs during the Cold War, if you remember.

A world of equal, independent countries, cooperating through a communion, a proto-4d society is now possible.

Who are getting shafted with this are Ukrainian people, Europe, and Americans.

Europe and US experience runaway inflation for the economic warfare that US is effecting against Russia, whereas Ukrainian people are outright dying in between the war and the actual Nazis.

Not entire Europe is following US orders, though. France says that none of French businesses left Russia, and they don't see any threat to French businesses or French citizens in Russia. Similarly, Italy, Spain and Greece also follow a moderate line and they don't mirror the Angloamerican warfare that is being effected against Russia.

Those who are in a war with Russia seem to be Angloamerican countries and Germanic countries, including various Eastern European ones.

Ironically we also saw the whitewashing of Nazism by these establishments, with their media (including the US) putting Nazi commanders as 'experts' on live TV, saying that 'Far-right defenders' are not so bad etc. From a non-Angloamerican perspective, the propaganda in the media did take the form of an Arian propaganda - blue eyed blonde kids, TV hosts saying that these are people 'like us', they are 'civilized' and Russians are 'mongols' etc. It feels like something that was repressed in Europe after 1945 is coming out, and privately owned, 'free and objective' TV channels seem to be leading it.

But, as I said, this is still an opportunity for the 4d positive world to make a stride forward. It will be hard for people in the West though - a negative establishment that was created on racial supremacy of the 'white' race hiding behind a thin veil of 'freedom and democracy' would not let go that easily.

Its uncertain how the people in Europe and US could fight back and take back their countries. I did not expect the establishment to start repressions, censorship this fast and start pulling out the extremist elements it always used for its policies (like Nazis etc) this fast. However it is good that these are being done due to a war that is abroad, rather than being done as a reaction to domestic people's movements that seek to take back their countries. (like how it happened to Occupy Wall Street in the US in 2011).

These are difficult transition times.

If you want to follow the news from the other side without censorship, you can use Telegram.

Russian Ministry of Defense (they do a better job than what CNN did during 2003 Iraq war)

https://t.me/mod_russia_en

An indie military-intel channel that broadcasts the war as it happens (more frequent updates, almost everything with video)

https://t.me/intelslava

For those who would prefer a less intense source, Counter Punch in the US is always a good one:

https://counterpunch.org/

Journalists like Glenn Greenwald are also ok. If you are into foreign policy, then follow Pepe Escobar for Eurasian geopolitics. https://twitter.com/RealPepeEscobar.

Keep hope. Change is happening. World will change. However, it seems to be going to be turbulent, problematic and like someone who got into knee-deep mud dragging himself/herself slowly out of the mud...


RE: The current Ukraine crisis... - YinYang - 03-25-2022

Unity 100 Wrote:A world of equal, independent countries, cooperating through a communion, a proto-4d society is now possible.

I find the enthusiasm with which you view the other pole’s ascendancy in this multi-polar world a little puzzling. If the Uyghur genocide, A.I. mass surveillance, religious persecution, media censorship, dept-trap diplomacy, dystopian social credit system, enforced disappearances, wolf warrior diplomacy, persecution of Tibet, Tiananmen Square, crackdown on Hong Kong, threatening a Taiwanese invasion, etc. etc. is anything to go by, I doubt we’ll be sitting around the campfire singing Kumbaya if China ever has their turn.

China’s imperial ambitions are no different than anyone else’s.

And what has poor Winnie the Pooh ever done to anyone? (trying to keep it light…)

I’m afraid I fail to share in your enthusiasm with regard to China’s ascendancy.

Each country and each race have their saints and their demons. Russia has a Leo Tolstoy and a Grigory Rasputin. The Germans have an Albert Schweitzer and a Hitler. The Jews have an Einstein and a Jeffrey Epstein. The Chinese have a Liu Xiaobo and a Dai Li, and regretfully the saints seldom wield any power or influence in the political arena.


RE: The current Ukraine crisis... - zedro - 03-25-2022

Some people fail to understand that top down authority, whether it's 'western capitalism' or 'Chinese communism', are negatively polarized, and to believe all the tech and giving AI decision powers etc is somehow 4d positive....it's not. Any takeover by any current government would be the lattice for a -4d society, with all the tools to create conformity/slavery, which would be sold as unity. It's all about free will.

It doesn't matter anyways, all this nonsense will be wiped out, the Logos knows where it wants to go, and it's not going to be about chipping and surveying people into submission. My only concern is how much it's going to suck in the transition, how dark things need to get before there's light, as the negatively polarized need to prove themselves as well, before they cannibalize themselves and ultimately get destroyed from the new energies.


RE: The current Ukraine crisis... - flofrog - 03-25-2022

Some catalyst, for sure. Lol

Which YinYang illustrâtes very well…


RE: The current Ukraine crisis... - IndigoSalvia - 03-25-2022

(03-25-2022, 10:53 AM)zedro Wrote: My only concern is how much it's going to suck in the transition, how dark things need to get before there's light, as the negatively polarized need to prove themselves as well, before they cannibalize themselves and ultimately get destroyed from the new energies.

I have faith that there is more light/love than fear/darkness amidst us at this time. The darkness plays out on the big stage with ample media coverage, and the light plays out on the small stages of our ordinary lives ... seemingly small gestures of love and kindness abound. I think about the nearly 8 billion of us humans who are sharing love in our daily lives, whether physically or metaphysically.


RE: The current Ukraine crisis... - tadeus - 03-26-2022

(03-23-2022, 04:33 PM)flofrog Wrote: Tadeus, that might apply to many wars of the past, right ?

Yes - including the daily war against the "persons".


RE: The current Ukraine crisis... - tadeus - 03-26-2022

(03-23-2022, 08:44 PM)unity100 Wrote: The situation in Ukraine is a great lesson in negative polarization and how the negatively polarized behave.

To understand it, one must understand the background and development of the situation and its main actors - mainly, these:

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Yes - it's very complex.

But the main reason that the war has started now is, that a perfect distraction and scapegoat is needed in the hot phase of installation of the New World Order.
Specifically for the destruction of supply chains and skyrocketing food and energy prices to work toward NESARA / GESARA.


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RE: The current Ukraine crisis... - unity100 - 03-26-2022

(03-25-2022, 07:49 AM)YinYang Wrote:
Unity 100 Wrote:A world of equal, independent countries, cooperating through a communion, a proto-4d society is now possible.

I find the enthusiasm with which you view the other pole’s ascendancy in this multi-polar world a little puzzling. If the Uyghur genocide, A.I. mass surveillance, religious persecution, media censorship, dept-trap diplomacy, dystopian social credit system, enforced disappearances, wolf warrior diplomacy, persecution of Tibet, Tiananmen Square, crackdown on Hong Kong, threatening a Taiwanese invasion, etc. etc. is anything to go by, I doubt we’ll be sitting around the campfire singing Kumbaya if China ever has their turn.

Uighur genocide was first announced from Voice of America - its as real as the Iraqi WMDs or whatever that was sold about Syrian freedom fighters. US Congress just allocated $300 million to do propaganda against China, so expect even more.

Mass surveillance exists in entire 'free' west.

What you call religious persecution is enforcement of secularism just like European countries - France is a good example.

Media censorship? Even as the US and the Eu literally jail journalists and shut down entire TVs?

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I will illustrate the level of lies and depravity of the Angloamerican Empire and their propaganda over the 'Tienanmen massacre' example.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq8zFLIftGk&t=1s

That's the full video of the Tienanmen tank man. Whom you knew to 'have been overrun by the tank'.

Except, this is the full video and no such thing happens.

The guy just walks away with his plastic bags after being scolded by his friends who came to pick him up. The tanks continue on their way.

Even more stunningly, when the camera zooms out, you notice that the tank man was trying to prevent tanks from EXITING the square instead of ENTERING it.

Its total opposite of what we have been led believe by the BBC's coverage of the event in which we were made to believe that Chinese government used tanks to enter the square to repress the protesters and the tank man died heroically while trying to prevent it.

Which was accomplished by cutting the video and not showing the entire thing, and constantly lying about it because nobody had any means to verify it.

Far worse than the Nayirah lie...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony

...which was used to justify the first Iraq War by deceiving the gullible masses to believe that Iraqi soldiers took babies off of incubators and threw them on the ground.

Actually it gets even worse: It turns out that the students occupying the square were Maoists, who wanted the army to intervene in the government because they thought that the government became too capitalist.

That's why the tank man is trying to prevent the tanks from exiting the square not entering it - they wanted the tanks to stay with them and move towards the parliament.

You never ever heard about that bit either, did you.

Because of lying - lying by omission.

But here you are, 30 years after the events, in the age of Internet, after the Angloamerican Empire having lied a few dozen times more in every internal and external policy matter, still repeating whatever they are selling.

And after Iraq War in 2003 too. They caught red handed, they didnt even care and yet, here you are, again.

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This can be explained only by people wanting to believe such lies. With adjusted doses of racism included - racism against Asia, Russia, India and others from 200 years ago, is being exploited towards those societies today over the religion of 'democratic advanced-ness'. Apparently they are 'less advanced' so that any accusation towards them by serial liars is easily believed.

Except its not those societies who are murdering their people if they can't pay for healthcare. Its the US.

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All of the other stuff you listed are productions of the same outfit that sold the Nayirah Lie and Nonexistent Iraqi WMDs. However I don't have the time to go through each of them.

(03-25-2022, 03:38 PM)flofrog Wrote: Some catalyst, for sure. Lol

Which YinYang illustrâtes very well…

He did illustrate the total control that the Angloamerican media and its satellites have on a large part of the Western population. Little seems to have changed since 2003 Iraq War. I did expect people to be less easy to deceive and manipulate.

Just low level of smear propaganda over a decade seems to do the job.

(03-25-2022, 10:53 AM)zedro Wrote: Some people fail to understand that top down authority, whether it's 'western capitalism' or 'Chinese communism', are negatively polarized, and to believe all the tech and giving AI decision powers etc is somehow 4d positive....it's not. Any takeover by any current government would be the lattice for a -4d society, with all the tools to create conformity/slavery, which would be sold as unity. It's all about free will.

A lot of people fail to understand that with no social cohesion, no organization, not even individual biological entities can exist, leave aside societies.

4d societies are no different. A lot of you have probably created an image of 4d being a totally anarchic, "I do whatever I want and there are no consequences" kind of Wild West - but somehow 'loving' - environment due to the spiritual literature - especially in the US - influencing channelings and the interpretations.

However social cohesion and organization also exist in 4d in the form of SMC. One can't just do 'whatever' and constantly conflict with the SMC. If he/she/it does that, the SMC eventually sends him packing to such a planet like Earth, for that entity to make up for the lacking lessons it did not learn.

(03-26-2022, 04:45 AM)tadeus Wrote:
(03-23-2022, 08:44 PM)unity100 Wrote: The situation in Ukraine is a great lesson in negative polarization and how the negatively polarized behave.

To understand it, one must understand the background and development of the situation and its main actors - mainly, these:

...

Yes - it's very complex.

But the main reason that the war has started now is, that a perfect distraction and scapegoat is needed in the hot phase of installation of the New World Order.
Specifically for the destruction of supply chains and skyrocketing food and energy prices to work toward NESARA / GESARA.

There are peripheral political and economic aims, like having the military-industry complex eating taxpayer money like how pharma recently did and driving attention away from covid, however this is nothing that complicated and conspiracy-y like that:

Its just the 20 year old American establishment strategy to keep economic domination. Its not complicated, its not secret, it does not even pretend to be anything else. Everything is so blunt that how people could get deceived to support it is amazing.

US oil/gas corporations wanted to sell expensive oil and gas to Europe instead of Europe buying cheap Russian oil and gas. And voila - today Europe agreed to buy expensive American oil and gas. What a surprise.


RE: The current Ukraine crisis... - zedro - 03-26-2022

(03-26-2022, 08:39 PM)unity100 Wrote:
(03-25-2022, 10:53 AM)zedro Wrote: Some people fail to understand that top down authority, whether it's 'western capitalism' or 'Chinese communism',  are negatively polarized, and to believe all the tech and giving AI decision powers etc is somehow 4d positive....it's not. Any takeover by any current government would be the lattice for a -4d society, with all the tools to create conformity/slavery, which would be sold as unity. It's all about free will.

A lot of people fail to understand that with no social cohesion, no organization, not even individual biological entities can exist, leave aside societies.

4d societies are no different. A lot of you have probably created an image of 4d being a totally anarchic, "I do whatever I want and there are no consequences" kind of Wild West - but somehow 'loving' - environment due to the spiritual literature - especially in the US - influencing channelings and the interpretations.

However social cohesion and organization also exist in 4d in the form of SMC. One can't just do 'whatever' and constantly conflict with the SMC. If he/she/it does that, the SMC eventually sends him packing to such a planet like Earth, for that entity to make up for the lacking lessons it did not learn.

You seem to conflate exercising authority with creating/maintaining positive social cohesion; it is clearly not positive, there is no amount of twisting the LOO to make that point. "I do whatever I want and there are no consequences" is not freedom, it's not respecting others free will, no one here argues that, that's a straw man argument that purposely ignores all the fundamentals to vilify personal sovereignty. The evolution of 4D positive consciousness comes from understanding the boundaries that free will creates between people and how to best respect them without compromising our own (I.e. Love), and then organize from there. Top down authority does not respect this, it decides on asymmetrical boundaries to suit its authoritarian control needs (power status quo), and punishes those who disagree or don't conform. It has to come from within, and not commanded externally and submitted to internally, and that's why it is a bottom up community understanding where we respect each other's rights and set common goals. This is not present in any type of globalist government structure being offered. They will crumble under the light for what they really are.


RE: The current Ukraine crisis... - YinYang - 03-27-2022

Unity 100 Wrote:Uighur genocide was first announced from Voice of America - its as real as the Iraqi WMDs or whatever that was sold about Syrian freedom fighters.

There is a mountain of evidence confirming the truth of the genocide. Just this topic alone and the evidence confirming it will result in pages and pages of discussion on this thread. Iraqi WMDs and Syrian freedom fighters are separate issues, so let’s not muddy the water.

I find the denial of these former/current detainees and their families' *own accounts* of what they’ve experienced quite distasteful, and reminiscent of holocaust denialism. The attempted cover-up and propaganda blitz came from the CCP.

People who wish to investigate this ongoing atrocity can do so for themselves and come to their own conclusions, but I'm not going to participate in this type of nonsense, or the rest of your historical revisionism.

You sound like a member of the 50 Cent Army...


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For those who wish to gain a balanced view of China, I would recommend the Sinica podcast. There's lots of positivity and amazing people doing wonderful things as well, been listening to this podcast for years now. They cover China with neither fear nor favour.

One of their many episodes about what's happening in Xinjiang province:

The Xinjiang camps on Clubhouse

These people will not be silenced.


RE: The current Ukraine crisis... - unity100 - 03-27-2022

(03-26-2022, 09:07 PM)zedro Wrote: You seem to conflate exercising authority with creating/maintaining positive social cohesion; it is clearly not positive, there is no amount of twisting the LOO to make that point

How will the social coheson be maintained without the SMC having any authority. The entity refuses to harmonize. What happens?

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What happens is the thing that you don't think that happens - the SMC decides what the entity should do. Even further, other, larger entities can also decide - like how Ra was given the honor/responsibility to stay on this planetary sphere until the distortions they caused were alleviated. Forgiving oneself and forgiving others did not fix it. Saying 'everything is ok in the end' did not fix it. Neither 'Everything is one' fixed it. Someone gave that responsibility to Ra.

In any case, the material is rife with instances of higher entities deciding things - be it SMCs, be it entity's totality, even be it the SMC's totality. There is even a basic principle explained in the form of "The higher energy field/vibration governs the lower".

Quote:"I do whatever I want and there are no consequences" is not freedom, it's not respecting others free will, no one here argues that, that's a straw man argument that purposely ignores all the fundamentals to vilify personal sovereignty.

Again, this personal sovereignty thing is an American trapping. It scarcely exists among the other cultures of this planet, totaling 6.7 billion people (with the US out).

Moreover, the very act of becoming 51% positive means that the entity directs existence to others. As they reach 99% polarity, from how it can be seen from Jesus of Nazareth's example, they sacrifice everything for others and 'personal' becomes something irrelevant, leave aside 'sovereignty'. You could say that the entities willingly make these choices out of their own polarity's choice. And that would be true. However it does not change the practical result. An entity nearing 99% positive polarity would listen to its SMC's will 99% of the time.

Quote:The evolution of 4D positive consciousness comes from understanding the boundaries that free will creates between people and how to best respect them without compromising our own (I.e. Love), and then organize from there


It doesn't, really. Its nothing that complicated. Entire 4d is a phase in which entities prioritize others' needs and desires over their selves. All the way to 99% polarity at the end, doing what the society needs.

Which creates the reaction/experience of the next density - 5d. Learning and staring to balance others with the self. Therefore, what you describe is not the nature of 4d experience, its the nature of 5d experience.

Quote:authoritarian... globalist...

As I said above, such concepts and obsession with such concepts are an American trapping.






(03-27-2022, 02:03 AM)YinYang Wrote:
Unity 100 Wrote:Uighur genocide was first announced from Voice of America - its as real as the Iraqi WMDs or whatever that was sold about Syrian freedom fighters.

There is a mountain of evidence confirming the truth of the genocide.

Yeah. There was a mountain of evidence confirming Iraqi WMDs too. And they came from the same sources.

Quote:Iraqi WMDs and Syrian freedom fighters are separate issues, so let’s not muddy the water.

They arent. They were made by the same people. Its not different * this * time. Just like it was not different the last time.

Quote:I find the denial of these former/current detainees and their families' *own accounts* of what they’ve experienced quite distasteful, and reminiscent of holocaust denialism. The attempted cover-up and propaganda blitz came from the CCP.

It didnt.

Anybody who had even one single US backed coup in his country knows what 'Voice of America' is.

Americans not knowing it and still trying to sell the same vile sociopaths' lies to the rest of the world is what is distasteful.

20 years after Iraq, 3 years after Syria, and they are telling you the truth * this * time. Right.

Quote:You sound like a member of the 50 Cent Army...

And you sound like a US State Dept. employee.

Quote:For those who wish to gain a balanced view of China, I would recommend the Sinica podcast. There's lots of positivity and amazing people doing wonderful things as well, been listening to this podcast for years now. They cover China with neither fear nor favour.

One of their many episodes about what's happening in Xinjiang province:

The Xinjiang camps on Clubhouse

These people will not be silenced.

Yep, an Angloamerican corporate and NGO backed nonprofit, surely it must be objective. They cannot be silenced. They definitely cant be, since they have so many major corporate donors. They can just keep talking from NY just like the rest of every single 'organization' that targets non-US friendly countries.

https://supchina.com/serica-initiative/

Totally different from the private PR firm that invented the Nayirah Lie and sold it to entire American public back in 1991. That kind of thing cannot happen again. Because, surely, * this time *, such organizations are definitely telling the truth.

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The easy to manipulate nature of you, the Angloamerican public, is enbling all these wars and murders that the US is perpetrating. Something being 'private' and claiming to be talking for 'freedom' does not make them trustworthy, less, prevent them from lying.

But hey. This is a religion, and there is no reasoning with a believer. Therefore, I will leave you to your belief.


RE: The current Ukraine crisis... - zedro - 03-27-2022

(03-27-2022, 05:38 PM)unity100 Wrote:
(03-26-2022, 09:07 PM)zedro Wrote: You seem to conflate exercising authority with creating/maintaining positive social cohesion; it is clearly not positive, there is no amount of twisting the LOO to make that point

How will the social coheson be maintained without the SMC having any authority. The entity refuses to harmonize. What happens?

I'm only going to address this, and for the last time, because we are at the positive vs negative polarity perspective schism right here.

The positive polarity SMC is created from the seeking of harmonization using free will agreements between individuated (sovereign) MBS complexes in green ray.

Those who refuse to harmonize are those rejecting the offer of a negative SMC.

Those who harmonize to an authoritarian structure are working from yellow ray and will seek the negative polarity SMC.

To be honest, I don't understand how you interpret the LOO the way you do, but it is so far out of alignment with me that there's no real debate of merit, we are 180 out of phase.


RE: The current Ukraine crisis... - MonadicSpectrum - 03-27-2022

I appreciate you for sharing your unique perspective, unity100. We walk in a field of lies in this world and "choosing sides" is rarely the right approach to truth, in my opinion, as all powerful countries in our history have skeletons in the closet so to speak.

(03-27-2022, 05:38 PM)unity100 Wrote:
(03-26-2022, 09:07 PM)zedro Wrote: You seem to conflate exercising authority with creating/maintaining positive social cohesion; it is clearly not positive, there is no amount of twisting the LOO to make that point

How will the social coheson be maintained without the SMC having any authority. The entity refuses to harmonize. What happens?

Regarding this question, I think we can arrive at a fundamental insight into the functioning of a 4D positive social memory complex. Harmony for 4D positive beings is not found externally, but rather internally. An entity who refuses to harmonize (e.g. an entity attempting to change polarity) will be the only one experiencing disharmony. Everyone else in 4D positive has learned how to create inner harmony independent of the choices of others so there is no need to react negatively or forcefully to change others by the social memory complex. This is the main reason for graduation requirements (i.e. polarity requirements) for fourth density as someone who is not mature enough to create inner harmony through acceptance or create outer order through control would not be able to handle the catalysts provided by fourth density light which has more dense information than third density.

Quote:Thus we, as a social memory complex of fourth density, had the tendency towards compassion even to martyrdom in aid of other-selves. When the fifth-density harvest was achieved we found that in this vibratory level flaws could be seen in the efficacy of such unrelieved compassion. We spent much time/space in contemplation of those ways of the Creator which imbue love with wisdom.

https://www.lawofone.info/s/42#6

A 4D positive being (or greater) can even create inner harmony during martyrdom, and it's only when wisdom is learned that it is found to be a better service to others to prevent martyrdom than allow it. The prevention of martyrdom is not due to lack of harmony but rather the desire to optimally help others see that harmony that already exists if but one chooses to see it.

Authority that is not freely followed can only be of one of the two paths:

Quote:The catalyst, and all catalyst, is designed to offer experience. This experience in your density may be loved and accepted or it may be controlled. These are the two paths. When neither path is chosen the catalyst fails in its design and the entity proceeds until catalyst strikes it which causes it to form a bias towards acceptance and love or separation and control. There is no lack of space/time in which this catalyst may work.

https://www.lawofone.info/s/46#16

Perhaps one could say that to a 4D positive social memory complex, there is but one gift to give... And it's not guilt, but love. And with love, there is always harmony even if others can't see it.




RE: The current Ukraine crisis... - IndigoSalvia - 03-28-2022

In meditations recently, I am starting to see that the narratives, back stories, context, labels, identities ... all of the stories -- and all of the characters in these stories -- that I tell myself (and that I am told) to attempt to make sense of life, all of these stories/characters also serve to separate me from everything about me. I am left with a "me" and "not me." And so I'm chipping away at that arbitrary perimeter I have constructed about me. 

And, I am also starting to see that we are all creators of this multi-faceted illusion. Though we've all likely read this often, it has taken me a while for it to start to soak in. We are, collectively, the Creator and the Creation (and even these are labels, or roles). To me, this means that each and every one of us literally create -- moment by moment and choice by choice -- this reality we find ourselves in. 

And, when I look about me at each and every one of us, I see a slightly different version or expression of me, or flavor of me (so to speak). And, there I want to simply love all versions of me, or us. It doesn't truly matter how we came to be who we each are (in terms of acceptance) ... the collection of our experiences that combine to bring us to this present moment. I feel this urge to just accept all as it is. I also feel this urge to just love all of us, exactly as we are. (Here, the designations "me" and "us" and "you" seem to have little meaning.) We are just one big "pot" of seemingly separate consciousnesses and energies. 

And when I see all of us together, with little to no distinct boundaries, I can much more easily see all as family, more than siblings ... can't quite find a word to describe it ... family comes closest. And when a part of me/us is hurting, or angry, or scared, or bellicose, I feel no urge to discover why nor do I feel an urge to "fix" or remedy any specific thing. I simply feel the urge to love all that I see about me as a part of me ... with tenderness and acceptance of how each presents in any given moment. 

These sensations mostly occur within meditation and silence. So, let me come back down to Earth.  CrackingUp

It's one thing to have these notions in the quiet moments when I sit alone. Alas, then I step out into life, and these notions seem to slip away as I'm drawn back into the narrative, the stories, the characters that we all are. Ahhh ... 

So, I challenge myself, as I walk through life, to see all about me as my family, my beloved family, who is creating - alongside me - this reality.  Confused


RE: The current Ukraine crisis... - flofrog - 03-28-2022

Thank you Nomadic, so lovely indeed.


RE: The current Ukraine crisis... - unity100 - 03-29-2022

(03-27-2022, 06:47 PM)zedro Wrote:
(03-27-2022, 05:38 PM)unity100 Wrote:
(03-26-2022, 09:07 PM)zedro Wrote: You seem to conflate exercising authority with creating/maintaining positive social cohesion; it is clearly not positive, there is no amount of twisting the LOO to make that point

How will the social coheson be maintained without the SMC having any authority. The entity refuses to harmonize. What happens?

The positive polarity SMC is created from the seeking of harmonization using free will agreements between individuated (sovereign) MBS complexes in green ray.

Innocence and naive child status are left behind when entities graduate to 4d. 4d is the density where the entities must act as a SMC. That does not happen by merely seeking, and 'free will agreements'. That latter one sounds extremely like an American concept - like a contract.

Quote:Those who refuse to harmonize are those rejecting the offer of a negative SMC.

Those who refuse to harmonize can not be part of any SMC - be it positive or negative.

Quote:To be honest, I don't understand how you interpret the LOO the way you do,

Because you are interpreting it through the window of your American (probably conservative) cultural paradigm.

Quote:but it is so far out of alignment with me that there's no real debate of merit, we are 180 out of phase.

Its not in alignment with your cultural perspective. Otherwise what you just heard here had been in spiritual literature that came out of other regions since late 1800s. Be it Switzerland, be it London or other early centers where spiritualists came to being. And not surprisingly, the literature that comes from those places do not reflect the 'American' interpretation of existence and spirituality.

This is not to say that Ra is much different as I mentioned before. However in other spiritual literature that has been produced in the US to specifically cater to American audiences, such 'American' interpretation of existence does exist.

Now that I think about it, not even Silver Birch has that 'American' interpretation of existence in which things go like 'I do whatever I want and then there are contracts in between entities that are entered through free will' etc etc. Hmmm... Neither Bartholomew has it.

(03-27-2022, 10:25 PM)MonadicSpectrum Wrote: Harmony for 4D positive beings is not found externally, but rather internally.

Thats very incorrect. Note that this 'turning inward' is something that Ra says to be specific to this planet, where advanced entities and wanderers, after facing how badly messed up and negatively polarized the 3d society is, return once again to their 2d chakra to 'seek themselves' again. Higher densities dont function like that.

Entities must harmonize and manifest a SMC. Otherwise they cant exist in 4d. And their activities are not only inward.

Quote:An entity who refuses to harmonize (e.g. an entity attempting to change polarity) will be the only one experiencing disharmony.

If the entity's will and spiritual power are strong enough, then the entity would be a nail that sticks out and disturbs the entire SMC. That cant be maintained.

In contrast, if the entity is not strong enough, the SMCs' power and will would make the entity harmonize.

Quote:Everyone else in 4D positive has learned how to create inner harmony independent of the choices of others so there is no need to react negatively or forcefully to change others by the social memory complex.

Some of you seem to think that a 4d SMC is like a random 3d society or social group.

It doesn't work like that. SMC takes the place of the local sun/creator. It becomes a local logos in itself. All the entities that inhabit the SMC take their energy from the SMC, sharing their entire being with everyone else.

Its something much more solid than the pretty-loose 3d societies.

Quote:This is the main reason for graduation requirements (i.e. polarity requirements) for fourth density as someone who is not mature enough to create inner harmony through acceptance or create outer order through control would not be able to handle the catalysts provided by fourth density light which has more dense information than third density.

The graduation requirement is radiating energy 51% outwards under all circumstances. Thinking others before oneself. You are describing 5d to 6d lessons.

Quote:Thus we, as a social memory complex of fourth density, had the tendency towards compassion even to martyrdom in aid of other-selves. When the fifth-density harvest was achieved we found that in this vibratory level flaws could be seen in the efficacy of such unrelieved compassion. We spent much time/space in contemplation of those ways of the Creator which imbue love with wisdom.

Quote:A 4D positive being (or greater) can even create inner harmony during martyrdom

That's not what's in between the lines there. What's there is that the entities prioritize not only their SMC, but everyone else rather than themselves in all cases.

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Some people are affected by the cultural window of their own culture, like American culture, and they try to fit the existence into that paradigm. And some confuse higher density lessons with 4d requirements.

The existence is not a little America and 4d is not that complicated.

One of the main roadblocks that hamper especially American seekers that have the conservative cultural paradigm is that unrealistic adherence to the concept of 'individualism'. Which is just separation of the self from the others. All the other cultural paradigm like the 'freedom' that exists in that creed also derive from that separation.

Remember that separation is a trait of negative inclinations. And the productive route for the positive-seeking entity is 'We' instead of 'I'.


RE: The current Ukraine crisis... - unity100 - 03-29-2022

It feels like a lot of people 'mysticize' 4d and make it into an obscure, far-away phenomenon. Its not a mysterious thing that comes into being out of nowhere - it evolves from the energies, behaviors and situations that already exist in late 3d societies.

Thinking with this example might be more productive:

Consider the mini, proto-SMC that is the marriage/family.

To even create that, the individuals sacrifice a considerable amount of their individuality and freedom to even become a couple. When children come to being, even further. And if the couple harmonizes enough over time, they may attain a level in which their energies and thoughts are highly shared among them and they may understand what the other one thinks, wants or wants to say. And they may only need to say things like 'Pass the salt' by using words. Mostly not needing excessive words.

And if a member of the family is in conflict with the rest of the family, discord ensues and it distresses the entire family. If the individual insists, he or she may fall out with the famil, or even the couple may break up.

Expanding this concept to one's close friends, other social contacts that are close enough can allow discerning some traits that are needed in a 4d positive SMC. Of course, we are talking about functional families, friend groups etc.

In contrast, observe the entities that work and live in fields like arts, working with blue (5d) energies: They want to be always free and unbounded, they dont want to tie themselves into anything, they avoid marriage and they may even refuse to actually get married even if they have been a couple for decades. Some also fervently avoid having chiildren as well, being openly opposed to it. This is because the blue energy is a pretty free energy that does not like getting tied/committed. For that reason, they stay in loosely associated collectives, be it friends, be it artist communities, be it art or other political movements.

Then there are those who try to juggle everything to balance it - family, friends, life and higher pursuits. Naturally, closer to 6d lessons - be it as a wanderer working with indigo energy or be it as a 3d entity working on 6th chakra.


RE: The current Ukraine crisis... - aWanderer91 - 03-29-2022

If you've had a spiritual awakening, a genuine heart awakening and for some the rays that exist above, then you have temporarily lived in 4D positive.

From this way of being, it is impossible to hurt another, even by accident. It is impossible to exert influence on another. It is impossible to impose on another's free will in any way, shape or form. The self is too conscious and can see others clearly, there is no room for disharmony at all.

Monadicspectrum was quite right "Harmony for 4D positive beings is not found externally, but rather internally". It is through inner peace and harmony that outer harmony is created, and the collective harmony found between a positive social memory complex is natural and created out of the loving freedom of being our natural organic selves. It is not forced, it's not something that's strived for in the sense that everyone forces themselves to be in harmony so a 4D positive social memory complex can be created. This would be very unnatural, and could cause tremendous havoc as everyone's suppressed issues lie deep down in the pysche, body and rays while everyone pretends to harmonise and strive for something that isn't naturally there.

Inner peace must be found in the self first, then harmony is created between others as a natural function of this inner peace.