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sleep and our unsual ignorant within the creation - Sacred Fool - 04-14-2022
This is Don Elkins channeling Hatonn in 1974.
https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/1974/0209
Quote:We were, for quite some time, confused about the conditions that are manifested upon your surface, and the reason for the turmoil. It took us some time to understand the state of total ignorance that is in evidence among your peoples. This is not a condition that is often found in this creation, for the Father has given to each of His children an understanding that is within them. This understanding is within all of the peoples throughout all of space, and it is within the people of this planet. However, since they have not sought this understanding that is theirs, that is a part of them, they have continued in directions brought about by desires that have nothing to do with truth. Desires created by intellectual games played in their waking state. They come in contact with truth only during their sleeping state.
And if they did not come in contact with their innermost thoughts at this time, they would long since have ceased to exist, for a being cannot long exist in a condition of total lack of the Creator’s truth. For this reason you find it necessary to sleep. Sleep, my friends, is not a normal condition. It is something that the people of your planet do out of necessity.
Unfortunately, this condition of sleep does not totally satisfy the requirements that are necessary if the truth of the creation is to be revealed in its totality. It is therefore necessary, if they are to return to this truth, to avail themselves to it in dally meditation.
This, my friends, is why we cannot come directly to you, and land upon your surface and speak with you, for it would do no good. We must provide a spark, a clue, something for a start. A start of seeking, seeking that results in finding the truth that is within you.
I thought this was worth sharing because is shows how supremely ignorant (clueless) our condition is upon our suffering little planet. It hints at how important is the spiritual work which manages to be done under these trying conditions. The part about sleep is interesting as well.
RE: sleep and our unsual ignorant within the creation - LeiwoUnion - 04-14-2022
It is interesting, yet somewhat obvious to the keen mind.
The sleep question I've wondered for a long time, as I've always managed well with little sleep on average. I consider myself extremely well rested after 6 hours of sleep, and can normally function during the day with 5 hours sleep, lately even lower than this (just last night I slept for 4,5 hours and feel alright - not exactly super sharp, but functional). I don't wish to make this a spiritual ego issue but there seems to be a connection with the need of sleep rejuveneration and connection to 'higher realms' during waking hours. This topic is intriguing, and I'm constantly fine tuning my wake-sleep balance to see the connections to my physical and spiritual lives. Sometimes I overshoot and sometimes I undershoot. The balance point is constantly evolving in microscopic and also macroscopic sense. I feel this is important as the more I'm awake the more efficient my time usage/day will be, if I'm able to remain sharp and functional.
RE: sleep and our unsual ignorant within the creation - Diana - 04-14-2022
That is a very interesting take on why we need sleep. We do heal our minds in dreams, and our physical bodies when in REM, so it follows that we heal our spirits in sleep as well.
RE: sleep and our unsual ignorant within the creation - IndigoSalvia - 04-14-2022
(04-14-2022, 04:47 AM)LeiwoUnion Wrote: The sleep question I've wondered for a long time, as I've always managed well with little sleep on average.
Interesting. I seem to require more sleep than others I know. If I don't get enough sleep, I am cranky and my cognitive functions are more sluggish. I enjoy sleep, a lot!
It's interesting that other entities don't require sleep to the extent (or at all) that humans do.
The veil is a fixture in all 3D as I understand it (not just here on Earth). And, it's been said that our veil is thicker, more intensive than 'usual.'
This quote caught my attention: "Desires created by intellectual games played in their waking state." I have been highly-reliant upon my brain: rationalizing what goes on within/around me, or trying to find logic to it ... making sense of this existence.
Perhaps these are 'intellectual games.' In retrospect, these are my attempts to predict (control) circumstances: if I understand and 'know' them, I can prevent bad things from happening. I also notice that my intellectual games are often focused on past/future ... not present: replaying things and projecting, in which I have no traction.
Nap time ...
RE: sleep and our unsual ignorant within the creation - tadeus - 04-15-2022
My posts about ignorance here and here will better fit into this thread.
(04-14-2022, 12:44 PM)tadeus Wrote: Here is an interesting Video that fits here:
Ignorance is the Exercise of our Last Freedom (à la Krishnamurti)
Min. 1:10 "Ignorance is a choice we make"
When ignorance is a choice I would say it is a choice for STS ?
(04-15-2022, 03:24 AM)tadeus Wrote:https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ignorance Wrote:Definition of ignorance
: the state or fact of being ignorant : lack of knowledge, education, or awareness
Definition of ignorant
1a : destitute of knowledge or education an ignorant society also : lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified parents ignorant of modern mathematics
1b : resulting from or showing lack of knowledge or intelligence ignorant errors
2 : unaware, uninformed
Definition of ignore
transitive verb
1 : to refuse to take notice of
2 : to reject (a bill of indictment) as ungrounded
The word ignorance is definitely ambiguous, in the dictionary it is connected to knowledge and intelligence onesided.
I think in the video the word is used as noun for the verb ignore.
The really difference is very subtle, because someone can ignore something because he has no knowledge about it - that is caused by the "sinkhole of indifference", or he has got the knowledge and is actively ignoring something by choice.
This process of "actively ignoring something by choice" can be caused itself by psychological mechanisms such as cognitive dissonance or the panopticon.
RE: sleep and our unsual ignorant within the creation - pat19989 - 04-15-2022
Wow! very interesting tid bit about sleep, comes at a good time for me. I just noticed this week that the more I feel in tune with creation, the more "trouble" I have sleeping. Most likely because I don't need sleep as much at those times!