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Hi, I'm new here - Spectrum - 01-29-2011

Hi Everyone

I have discovered the Ra material recently, and I am just...speechless, to say the least. I have no idea whether I might be a wanderer or not, but for now I'm just trying to take in all the information about the higher self in the Ra teachings. Geesh!! I thought I was on my own, at least down here till I die and get some answers!...actually, somewhere deep inside I knew it wasn't true ;-) We were brought up to believe that reincarnation was something crazy people in the East believed. For us it was Heaven and Hell..."better be a good girl now, otherwise you burn!" When I was eighteen (I'm 34 now), I decided I'm done with Christianity. Since then it has been quite the roller coaster ride, and when the internet arrived, I stepped into quite a few traps. It's a jungle out there!

I have been a seeker for as long as I can remember, and I have come to the uncomfortable realization that I might be a little gullible sometimes. I felt a little better when I read this in the Ra teachings:

Carla: "This last point is an important one when talking about psychic research of any kind. Don has always said that one of my assets as a research associate is my great gullibility. Almost anyone can play a joke on me because I do not catch on quickly. I have a way of taking things as they come and accepting them at face value and only afterwards analyzing what has occurred. This gullibility is a vital factor in obtaining good results in paranormal research. A desire for proof will inevitably lead to null results and voided experiments. An open mind, one willing to be gullible, leads its possessor to a kind of subjective and personal certainty which does not equal proof as it cannot be systematically reproduced in others. However, this subjective knowing is a central part of the spiritual evolution to which Ra speaks so compellingly in this volume and which we have researched for many years now."

I trust people too easily, but I think I'd rather be the 'eternally hopeful' that I am, than a cynic.

As I read the Ra teachings, I realized "Oh my goodness! This is the truth!"

Anyway, glad to be here. One last thing, since I have never really done any meditation (cause I don't know how), can anyone point me in a good direction? As in instruction, or 'how to'.

I saw this book on Amazon: Wherever You Go, There You Are

http://www.amazon.com/Wherever-You-There-Are-ROUGH/dp/1401307787/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1296346009&sr=8-1

Looks good to me, unless someone knows of a better instructional book.

Thanks


RE: Hi, I'm new here - turtledude23 - 01-29-2011

I can relate to alot of the things you said. Welcome to the forum Smile


RE: Hi, I'm new here - NegaNova - 01-29-2011

Hey, it's so good to have you here with us, Spectrum!

For meditation, I found this thread pretty helpful the other day:

http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=2147

But ofcourse, it may take a little bit of time to find the right meditation for you. There's tonnes of kinds, like visualization, becoming silent, simply feeling your body. Hopefully you find this forum useful, everyone here is super nice, and always willing to help if you have questions or concerns.

ANYWAYS,
Glad you're here! Welcomeee haha.


RE: Hi, I'm new here - Lorna - 01-29-2011

Hi Spectrum, welcome x


RE: Hi, I'm new here - Ankh - 01-30-2011

Welcome, sister/brother! I can relate to a lot of things you said. Nice quote you provided. Never seen that before. Thank you.


RE: Hi, I'm new here - Spectrum - 01-30-2011

Thank you very much for the warm welcome you all. Smile

I'm going to check out that thread you provided now, NegaNova. Thanks!

Ankh, I found that quote in the introduction of the e-book version, here: http://www.scribd.com/doc/23421361/Ra-the-Law-of-One-Series


RE: Hi, I'm new here - Brittany - 01-30-2011

Hello and welcome! I, too, was brought up in Christianity, and I broke away about the same time you did, when I was in college. It just stopped making sense to me anymore. I also did the great internet search for answers, though in the end it was the internet that led me to the Law of One, so I guess it works sometimes, though there's some crazy stuff out there, too.

I usually use tribal music to meditate. It's about the only thing that works for me.


RE: Hi, I'm new here - fairyfarmgirl - 01-30-2011

Thank you for being here, now! --fairyfarmgirl


RE: Hi, I'm new here - Confused - 01-30-2011

(01-29-2011, 08:16 PM)Spectrum Wrote: We were brought up to believe that reincarnation was something crazy people in the East believed.

I am one of those crazy people from the East. It was a joy reading your post. Thank you for sharing.


RE: Hi, I'm new here - rva_jeremy - 01-30-2011

Hi Spectrum, thanks for introducing yourself and sharing. I look to people like you to help balance the cynic in me, so I hope you'll continue sharing of yourself and I'll do my best to do the same. Welcome!


RE: Hi, I'm new here - Shemaya - 01-30-2011

Hi Spectrum,

I can relate to your story! Glad you are here :o)


RE: Hi, I'm new here - Spectrum - 01-31-2011

ahktu Wrote:though in the end it was the internet that led me to the Law of One, so I guess it works sometimes, though there's some crazy stuff out there

Indeed.

Confused Wrote:I am one of those crazy people from the East. It was a joy reading your post.

=) =) =)

jeremy6d Wrote:I look to people like you to help balance the cynic in me, so I hope you'll continue sharing of yourself and I'll do my best to do the same.

Okay then, let's try and find a healthy balance between healthy scepticism/cynicism and faith/mysticism/intent. :-/

Thanks everyone!


RE: Hi, I'm new here - rva_jeremy - 01-31-2011

(01-31-2011, 08:14 AM)Spectrum Wrote: Okay then, let's try and find a healthy balance between healthy scepticism/cynicism and faith/mysticism/intent. :-/

Exactly; you have one of my lessons for this lifetime in a nutshell, there. Well said.


RE: Hi, I'm new here - kycahi - 02-01-2011

I'll tell you what is probably the simplest instruction on how to meditate, and it was given by my college Freshman Physics professor--not that this source is either good or bad.

We were approaching the end of the Quarter and many students were trying to tease out of him what might be on the Final Exam, so they would be sure to study that. He told us that in a class coming up soon, he would give us the very best advice on preparing for a final. He did this several days later.

He announced that we reached the end of that day's lesson, so we were free to leave at any time. I don't think anybody left. Then he said he would do what he promised, tell how to prepare for exams. He waited as lots of guys got out fresh paper to take notes, and said, "Find a place in your home or out in nature, someplace peaceful. Next, sit with your back straight, pick a tree or flower or rock and stare at it, while thinking of nothing. That's it."

For some reason, this room of engineering students had a lot of puzzled looks on our faces and one or two raised hands. He said, I know this is not what you expected, but I've been on several continents and talked with some some very smart people. They all said, "Stare at a tree." He answered a few questions without saying much more and then the bell rang, ending the class. A large buzz filled the room as the professor got out quickly.

A few guys later said they tried it and thinking of nothing was not easy. Some guys had talked with older students about this, and they said, "Oh yeah, that Elkins is kind of weird, but he's usually right so don't dismiss it."

Frankly, I tried it a little and felt like I failed. Most of the other guys either disregarded the advice or didn't do well with it either.

A few years later, after Prof. Elkins had left the school to be a full-time pilot, I was confronted by a Thermodynamics class which I had virtually dropped out of--I attended the classes and took notes, but didn't study or do the homework. I pondered skipping the final, but decided that this is where to apply the meditation theory in earnest.

I was able to get into the meditation pretty well and so went to the final, but didn't feel like I knew any more Thermodynamics than I had before. The exam was open book and open notes. As I read each exam problem, I kind of remembered something about that in my notes and copied a few equations down on my paper and plugged in some of the problem's numbers. I looked through the textbook and sometimes I grabbed an equation out of there. Long story short, I passed Thermodynamics, barely. Surprised the heck out of me!

The next Quarter I had a similar class, which I also pretty much ignored, called Fluid Mechanics. I had been meditating fairly regularly by then, so I went into the fluids mid-term exam not knowing what to expect. Well, maybe because of all the meditation, my notes were better. Cool The exam was three problems, and only I and one other guy got two right. The rest either got one or none. Geez, was I convinced by then!

So that was the basics, the rest is just technique. Give yourself about 20 minutes; when you notice yourself thinking, just let it stop. After the time is up, don't think about how you failed or succeeded, just repeat in a day or two. I promise that you succeed every time, whether you recognize it or not.

I am still grateful to that college professor, for this lesson and many many more.

Lee


RE: Hi, I'm new here - BlatzAdict - 02-02-2011

Hi and welcome to the forums spectrum. whats a good meditation technique. besides transcendental which is what Kycahi was referring to,

I was taught the white light meditation/grounding. It also works as protection. It's a very versatile technique.
You envision a beam of white light coming from the galactic center or from a really holy place in your imagination.
Make it as real as you can, it should be white and intense but not too opaque, semi transparent semi opaque.

Picture it surrounding your entire body, perhaps even surrounding your entire room.
Once u have that bring the bottom of the white beam down and imagine connecting it to the core of the earth. Essentially you have a pillar or a beam of light.

It's a very basic grounding technique, which can be used to contact ur spirit guides and higher self, as well as protecting u from any of those pesky Orion friends.

When you become proficient at this, perhaps I should put down a technique I created involving connecting the top of the pillar to the core of the sun, while the bottom of the pillar connects to the core of the earth.
You can feel earth's chakra coming up from the bottom red ray chakra, as well as the sun's chakra coming in through your crown.
Bring the two energies together and mix it with your own for 3 energies total in your heart chakra.

Now you have some loving energy that u can use for anything u want. I use it on the planet to help the the general vibration.
Whenever I use it, people tend to feel better generally and don't really know why hahaha.

It's like guerrilla love warfare Smile

may u be blessed with love and light or just amitoufu

Felix


RE: Hi, I'm new here - Spectrum - 02-02-2011

Thank you for the advice, kycahi and BlatzAdict. Smile


RE: Hi, I'm new here - Spectrum - 02-02-2011

I read this in the Ra teachings today, which I think is pertinent:

Session 5, January 23, 1981 Wrote:We begin with the mental learn/teaching necessary for contact with
intelligent infinity. The prerequisite of mental work is the ability to retain
silence of self at a steady state when required by the self. The mind must be
opened like a door. The key is silence.

Within the door lies an hierarchical construction you may liken unto
geography and in some ways geometry, for the hierarchy is quite regular,
bearing inner relationships.

To begin to master the concept of mental disciplines it is necessary to
examine the self. The polarity of your dimension must be internalized.
Where you find patience within your mind you must consciously find the
corresponding impatience and vice versa. Each thought a being has, has in
its turn an antithesis.

The disciplines of the mind involve, first of all, identifying both those things
of which you approve and those things of which you disapprove within
yourself, and then balancing each and every positive and negative charge
with its equal. The mind contains all things. Therefore, you must discover
this completeness within yourself.

The second mental discipline is acceptance of the completeness within your
consciousness. It is not for a being of polarity in the physical consciousness
to pick and choose among attributes, thus building the roles that cause
blockages and confusions in the already distorted mind complex. Each
acceptance smoothes part of the many distortions that the faculty you call
judgment engenders.

The third discipline of the mind is a repetition of the first but with the gaze
outward toward the fellow entities that it meets. In each entity there exists
completeness. Thus, the ability to understand each balance is necessary.
When you view patience, you are responsible for mirroring in your mental
understandings, patience/impatience. When you view impatience, it is
necessary for your mental configuration of understanding to be
impatience/patience. We use this as a simple example. Most configurations
of mind have many facets, and understanding of either self polarities, or
what you would call other-self polarities, can and must be understood as
subtle work.

The next step is the acceptance of the other-self polarities, which mirrors
the second step. These are the first four steps of learning mental disciplines.
The fifth step involves observing the geographical and geometrical
relationships and ratios of the mind, the other mind, the mass mind, and
the infinite mind.

The second area of learn/teaching is the study/understanding of the body
complexes. It is necessary to know your body well. This is a matter of using
the mind to examine how the feelings, the biases, what you would call the
emotions, affect various portions of the body complex. It shall be necessary
to both understand the bodily polarity and to accept them, repeating in a
chemical/physical manifestation the work you have done upon the mind
bethinking the consciousness.

The body is a creature of the mind’s creation. It has its biases. The
biological bias must be first completely understood and then the opposite
bias allowed to find full expression in understanding. Again, the process of
acceptance of the body as a balanced, as well as polarized, individual may
then be accomplished. It is then the task to extend this understanding to the
bodies of the other-selves whom you will meet.

The simplest example of this is the understanding that each biological male
is female; each biological female is male. This is a simple example. However,
in almost every case wherein you are attempting the understanding of the
body of self or other-self, you will again find that the most subtle
discernment is necessary in order to fully grasp the polarity complexes
involved.

The third area is the spiritual complex which embodies the fields of force
and consciousness which are the least distorted of your mind/body/spirit
complex. The exploration and balancing of the spirit complex is indeed the
longest and most subtle part of your learn/teaching. We have considered the
mind as a tree. The mind controls the body. With the mind single-pointed,
balanced, and aware, the body comfortable in whatever biases and
distortions make it appropriately balanced for that instrument, the
instrument is then ready to proceed with the greater work.
That is the work of wind and fire. The spiritual body energy field is a
pathway, or channel. When body and mind are receptive and open, then
the spirit can become a functioning shuttle or communicator from the
entity’s individual energy/will upwards, and from the streamings of the
creative fire and wind downwards.

The healing ability, like all other, what this instrument would call,
paranormal abilities, is affected by the opening of a pathway or shuttle into
intelligent infinity. There are many upon your plane who have a random
hole or gateway in their spirit energy field, sometimes created by the
ingestion of chemicals such as, what this instrument would call LSD, who
are able, randomly and without control, to tap into energy sources. They
may or may not be entities who wish to serve. The purpose of carefully and
consciously opening this channel is to serve in a more dependable way, in a
more commonplace or usual way, as seen by the distortion complex of the
healer. To others there may appear to be miracles. To the one who has
carefully opened the door to intelligent infinity this is ordinary; this is
commonplace; this is as it should be. The life experience becomes somewhat
transformed. The great work goes on.

At this time we feel these exercises suffice for your beginning. We will, at a
future time, when you feel you have accomplished that which is set before
you, begin to guide you into a more precise understanding of the functions
and uses of this gateway in the experience of healing.



RE: Hi, I'm new here - Confused - 02-02-2011

(02-02-2011, 08:01 AM)Spectrum Wrote: I read this in the Ra teachings today, which I think is pertinent:

Session 5, January 23, 1981 Wrote:We begin with the mental learn/teaching necessary for contact with
intelligent infinity. The prerequisite of mental work is the ability to retain
silence of self at a steady state when required by the self. The mind must be
opened like a door. The key is silence.

Within the door lies an hierarchical construction you may liken unto
geography and in some ways geometry, for the hierarchy is quite regular,
bearing inner relationships.

To begin to master the concept of mental disciplines it is necessary to
examine the self. The polarity of your dimension must be internalized.
Where you find patience within your mind you must consciously find the
corresponding impatience and vice versa. Each thought a being has, has in
its turn an antithesis.

The disciplines of the mind involve, first of all, identifying both those things
of which you approve and those things of which you disapprove within
yourself, and then balancing each and every positive and negative charge
with its equal. The mind contains all things. Therefore, you must discover
this completeness within yourself.

The second mental discipline is acceptance of the completeness within your
consciousness. It is not for a being of polarity in the physical consciousness
to pick and choose among attributes, thus building the roles that cause
blockages and confusions in the already distorted mind complex. Each
acceptance smoothes part of the many distortions that the faculty you call
judgment engenders.

The third discipline of the mind is a repetition of the first but with the gaze
outward toward the fellow entities that it meets. In each entity there exists
completeness. Thus, the ability to understand each balance is necessary.
When you view patience, you are responsible for mirroring in your mental
understandings, patience/impatience. When you view impatience, it is
necessary for your mental configuration of understanding to be
impatience/patience. We use this as a simple example. Most configurations
of mind have many facets, and understanding of either self polarities, or
what you would call other-self polarities, can and must be understood as
subtle work.

The next step is the acceptance of the other-self polarities, which mirrors
the second step. These are the first four steps of learning mental disciplines.
The fifth step involves observing the geographical and geometrical
relationships and ratios of the mind, the other mind, the mass mind, and
the infinite mind.

The second area of learn/teaching is the study/understanding of the body
complexes. It is necessary to know your body well. This is a matter of using
the mind to examine how the feelings, the biases, what you would call the
emotions, affect various portions of the body complex. It shall be necessary
to both understand the bodily polarity and to accept them, repeating in a
chemical/physical manifestation the work you have done upon the mind
bethinking the consciousness.

The body is a creature of the mind’s creation. It has its biases. The
biological bias must be first completely understood and then the opposite
bias allowed to find full expression in understanding. Again, the process of
acceptance of the body as a balanced, as well as polarized, individual may
then be accomplished. It is then the task to extend this understanding to the
bodies of the other-selves whom you will meet.

The simplest example of this is the understanding that each biological male
is female; each biological female is male. This is a simple example. However,
in almost every case wherein you are attempting the understanding of the
body of self or other-self, you will again find that the most subtle
discernment is necessary in order to fully grasp the polarity complexes
involved.

The third area is the spiritual complex which embodies the fields of force
and consciousness which are the least distorted of your mind/body/spirit
complex. The exploration and balancing of the spirit complex is indeed the
longest and most subtle part of your learn/teaching. We have considered the
mind as a tree. The mind controls the body. With the mind single-pointed,
balanced, and aware, the body comfortable in whatever biases and
distortions make it appropriately balanced for that instrument, the
instrument is then ready to proceed with the greater work.
That is the work of wind and fire. The spiritual body energy field is a
pathway, or channel. When body and mind are receptive and open, then
the spirit can become a functioning shuttle or communicator from the
entity’s individual energy/will upwards, and from the streamings of the
creative fire and wind downwards.

The healing ability, like all other, what this instrument would call,
paranormal abilities, is affected by the opening of a pathway or shuttle into
intelligent infinity. There are many upon your plane who have a random
hole or gateway in their spirit energy field, sometimes created by the
ingestion of chemicals such as, what this instrument would call LSD, who
are able, randomly and without control, to tap into energy sources. They
may or may not be entities who wish to serve. The purpose of carefully and
consciously opening this channel is to serve in a more dependable way, in a
more commonplace or usual way, as seen by the distortion complex of the
healer. To others there may appear to be miracles. To the one who has
carefully opened the door to intelligent infinity this is ordinary; this is
commonplace; this is as it should be. The life experience becomes somewhat
transformed. The great work goes on.

At this time we feel these exercises suffice for your beginning. We will, at a
future time, when you feel you have accomplished that which is set before
you, begin to guide you into a more precise understanding of the functions
and uses of this gateway in the experience of healing.

Excellent. Thanks.


RE: Hi, I'm new here - Spectrum - 02-02-2011

My pleasure. Smile


RE: Hi, I'm new here - Spectrum - 02-02-2011

A little bit of an expansion on the above in a later session:

Session 9, January 27, 1981 Wrote:Questioner: The healing exercises that you gave us are of such a nature
that it is best to concentrate on a particular exercise at a certain time.
I would like to ask what exercise that I should concentrate on tonight?

Ra: I am Ra. Again, to direct your judgment is an intrusion upon your
space/time continuum distortion called future. To speak of past or present
within our distortion/judgment limits is acceptable. To guide rather than
teach/learn is not acceptable to our distortion in regards to teach/learning.
We, instead, can suggest a process whereby each chooses the first of the
exercises given in the order in which we gave them, which you, in your
discernment, feel is not fully appreciated by your mind/body/spirit
complex.

This is the proper choice, building from the foundation, making sure the
ground is good for the building. We have assessed for you the intensity of
this effort in terms of energy expended. You will take this in mind and be
patient for we have not given a short or easy program of consciousness
learn/teaching.



RE: Hi, I'm new here - Ens Entium - 02-12-2011

Welcome Spectrum, i dig the username!Smile

The quote you gave was so poignant for me. It reminded me of a lot that i need to keep in mind. Thank you.

(01-29-2011, 08:16 PM)Spectrum Wrote: I have been a seeker for as long as I can remember, and I have come to the uncomfortable realization that I might be a little gullible sometimes. I felt a little better when I read this in the Ra teachings:

Carla: "This last point is an important one when talking about psychic research of any kind. Don has always said that one of my assets as a research associate is my great gullibility. Almost anyone can play a joke on me because I do not catch on quickly. I have a way of taking things as they come and accepting them at face value and only afterwards analyzing what has occurred. This gullibility is a vital factor in obtaining good results in paranormal research. A desire for proof will inevitably lead to null results and voided experiments. An open mind, one willing to be gullible, leads its possessor to a kind of subjective and personal certainty which does not equal proof as it cannot be systematically reproduced in others. However, this subjective knowing is a central part of the spiritual evolution to which Ra speaks so compellingly in this volume and which we have researched for many years now."

Regards


RE: Hi, I'm new here - Spectrum - 02-12-2011

(02-12-2011, 08:23 AM)Ens Entium Wrote: Welcome Spectrum, i dig the username!Smile

Thanks Ens Entium. Smile

I liked this one as well in the introduction:

Law of One Introduction Wrote:What concerns me perhaps more than anything else is that someone who
reads this material will consider this human being that I am to have some
sort of wisdom that Ra certainly has but that I certainly do not. If this work
impresses you, I can only ask that you please make a sharp differentiation in
your mind between the words and the “medium” through which the words
come. You would not, for instance, expect the water pipe to be responsible
for the quality of the water which runs through it. Certainly all of us in the
research group try, through meditation and daily life, to prepare ourselves as
best we can for these sessions. Nevertheless, what comes through our group
stands on its own and cannot be said to reflect on the wisdom or so-called
spiritual advancement of any of its members. As our popular philosophy has
it, “We are all bozos on this bus.”



RE: Hi, I'm new here - fairyfarmgirl - 02-14-2011

Thank you for being here now. Blessing to you as you journey back to yourSelf. --fairyfarmgirl


RE: Hi, I'm new here - Spectrum - 02-15-2011

Thanks fairyfarmgirl! Smile


RE: Hi, I'm new here - MDA - 02-16-2011

Hi, I am also new here - I just joined andhave also been reading the Ra material. When I read your post, I was wondering if I had written that myself and had forgotten.
I'm joking of course, but your story is so similar to my own. I grew up with all the very fundamental christian beliefs which never brought me anything but doubt and confusion. I've always had an insatiable need to search for who I am and why I am here and I have never fit in with any group or, seemingly, with societal perameters of what a successful person should be.
I've always had a very strong desire/need to communicate with the Creator but never seemed to be able to get anywhere so I was always left out in the cold in all religious searches. I've been considered to be very gullible also and my family thinks I will just follow any spiritual belief that comes my way - though this is not entirely true, I started thinking there was something wrong with me for a while.
I also am at odds because those who know me know that ever since I was a kid I have firmly believed that I should be able to use telekinesis- though I still have not been able to make it work.
I am thankful for the Ra material and for allwho have commented on this site - I will also make use of the meditation information to better my ability at meditation.
Thank you all and I hope to be able to read more of your posts later.


RE: Hi, I'm new here - Spectrum - 02-16-2011

Hi MDA, and welcome to you too! Smile

With regard to your story, John Keel once said, and I'm paraphrasing, cause I can't find the exact quote now, but he said something to the effect of "Mystery is the cause or the start of man's quest into the meaning of life and understanding it".

Your post made me think of that quote, because we are so often surrounded by people who seemingly don't share our strong fascination with the mysterious.


RE: Hi, I'm new here - MDA - 02-17-2011

Spectrum,
Hi again :-)
It amazes me how so many people will look at me with total blankness when faced with topics of spirituality. When faced with someone who has a deep desire to find ALL the answers to life, they are lost because they seemingly do not care for more than their daily struggle - and to focus on their work or their hobbies so intently that there is no more left of themselves in energy to seek answers to those mysteries. I irrritate even my own family by talking about all I learn and being what they sometimes call, obsessed. I wouldn't have it any other way! ;-)