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New Bob Dean interview - Required viewing! - native - 05-07-2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8s7c15K4kLo
In my opinion, this is the best interview to date related to ET experience simply because he exudes the most honest and down to earth demeanor possible, as he always has done. The only other interview that is as good is the one with Jordan Maxwell where he talks about the contact with that ET family he had as a teenager. Bob Dean is finally opening up and speaking about his direct contact.
Over the years he has always spoken very generally in terms of what he knows. Then last year he finally decided to speak of being contacted as a child.
Now he drops this bombshell. It turns out he has ongoing contact, and is taken upon their craft regularly. He once was taken to another planet for 6 weeks. When he returned, he had only been gone for 5 minutes. He describes this experience in detail. The planet, the society, akashic records..
My guess is that it's possible he has always been deeply involved with direct interaction through the military, and involved in black projects. Or he is simply a human liaison between us and other races. Instead he has been acting like he simply has been fortunate to be "in-the-know".
So this is a homework assignment. Required viewing!
RE: New Bob Dean interview - Required viewing! - Focus123 - 05-08-2011
I watched the interview:
Question- how does he know he was gone for 6 weeks? The 5 minute part I understand- he just would look at his watch.
RE: New Bob Dean interview - Required viewing! - 3DMonkey - 05-08-2011
I notice Kerry presents herself with a much more confident air than what she had at the beginning of PC.
I notice that saying "you ain't seen nothing yet" with conviction still activates obsequious behavior from the two PC/PA.
RE: New Bob Dean interview - Required viewing! - Ens Entium - 05-08-2011
I was waiting for this so i could make a silly joke about how he was actually gone for six weeks and 5 minutes- he has an analog watch.. hahahaha.. but he'd know not by looking at his watch but rather by it being the same day, same time of day (environmental factors, etc) asking people and so on..
I'm also curious as to how he it was 6 weeks too...
RE: New Bob Dean interview - Required viewing! - native - 05-08-2011
Well they probably just told him how long he was gone
(05-08-2011, 08:23 AM)3DMonkey Wrote: I notice Kerry presents herself with a much more confident air than what she had at the beginning of PC.
I notice that saying "you ain't seen nothing yet" with conviction still activates obsequious behavior from the two PC/PA.
Yeah, they have to be limited to some extent. Anything that they say can only be believed/disbelieved. Though I am sure they are given information they are forbidden to talk about.
RE: New Bob Dean interview - Required viewing! - zenmaster - 05-08-2011
(05-08-2011, 08:23 AM)3DMonkey Wrote: I notice Kerry presents herself with a much more confident air than what she had at the beginning of PC.yes
(05-08-2011, 08:23 AM)3DMonkey Wrote: I notice that saying "you ain't seen nothing yet" with conviction still activates obsequious behavior from the two PC/PA.Yeah, it's ab obvious consequence of having that much invested in what you want to see for 'disclosure'. Meanwhile, back on planet Earth...
Bob has a great radio voice.
RE: New Bob Dean interview - Required viewing! - Richard - 05-12-2011
Bob has always danced well. So well that people come away from his interviews thinking they have been let in on...what exactly?...I can never figure that out.
But he just sounds so sincere and grandfatherly.
Richard
RE: New Bob Dean interview - Required viewing! - native - 05-13-2011
He's always a pleasure to listen to
RE: New Bob Dean interview - Required viewing! - kanonathena - 05-13-2011
IMHO, there are a lot of people that have been awakened but I guess they are mostly wanderers (I don't think Kerry saw this), especially those not originated from the this planet. The masses are definitely not ready for a spiritual lesson but a gradual disclosure on alien life are very acceptable.
I used to force my parents to accept 911, UFO, LoO, even demonstrated spoon bending, nothing worked so far. How can you remain asleep when your son bend a spoon right in front of you?! Unbelievable.
And when Bob talks about how they like looking into people's eyes, that's classic Bela Bartok. Bartok used to just stare at people's eyes for 15 minutes without talking.
RE: New Bob Dean interview - Required viewing! - native - 05-14-2011
Yeah..I imagine disclosure won't happen until the older generations have passed, if we make it that far. The young are open and ready.
RE: New Bob Dean interview - Required viewing! - zenmaster - 05-14-2011
(05-14-2011, 01:52 PM)Icaro Wrote: Yeah..I imagine disclosure won't happen until the older generations have passed, if we make it that far. The young are open and ready.What's disclosure?
RE: New Bob Dean interview - Required viewing! - native - 05-14-2011
It's probably a slow process like Ra suggested..a gradual awareness and indication of life elsewhere.
RE: New Bob Dean interview - Required viewing! - zenmaster - 05-14-2011
(05-14-2011, 02:30 PM)Icaro Wrote: It's probably a slow process like Ra suggested..a gradual awareness and indication of life elsewhere.So what you are saying is that 'the young are open and ready' for 'a gradual awareness and indication of life elsewhere'? I don't think much preparation is needed for that, or that you'd have to be young for that matter, or even that 'open'.
RE: New Bob Dean interview - Required viewing! - native - 05-14-2011
The gradual process has been happening for decades, so the preparation has been occurring. I think many of the older generations will never be "ready".
In all likelihood, the Confederation probably controls all aspects. So I think if the time was right, it should have happened.
RE: New Bob Dean interview - Required viewing! - zenmaster - 05-14-2011
(05-14-2011, 02:51 PM)Icaro Wrote: The gradual process has been happening for decades, so the preparation has been occurring. I think many of the older generations will never be "ready".
In all likelihood, the Confederation probably controls all aspects. So I think if the time was right, it should have happened.
I honestly still do not understand what you mean by disclosure.
RE: New Bob Dean interview - Required viewing! - native - 05-14-2011
I know, you have always critiqued the word. What's your definition?
RE: New Bob Dean interview - Required viewing! - zenmaster - 05-14-2011
(05-14-2011, 03:02 PM)Icaro Wrote: What's your definition?But you brought it up. I was still hoping you would explain your idea of it. Don't you find the idea of some importance?
RE: New Bob Dean interview - Required viewing! - 3DMonkey - 05-14-2011
I've always defined Disclosure as 1) full admittance of governmental UFO cover ups, and 2) UFOs landing with ETs for everyone to see and speak with.
If I were to define it as a gradual acceptance of time/space and extraterrestial existence, I would just call it social evolution.
RE: New Bob Dean interview - Required viewing! - zenmaster - 05-14-2011
(05-14-2011, 03:32 PM)3DMonkey Wrote: I've always defined Disclosure as 1) full admittance of governmental UFO cover ups, and 2) UFOs landing with ETs for everyone to see and speak with.Given there are different aspects of the 'reality' of the ET phenomena, i.e. as John Mack said:
If I were to define it as a gradual acceptance of time/space and extraterrestial existence, I would just call it social evolution.
1) Literal
2) Individual psychological
3) Biology, phylogeny and collective unconscious
4) Metaphysical/symbolic
5) Mythico/religious
6) Some combination of above
Does your version of 'disclosure' pertain to the literal or physical interpretation of the phenomena? I am wondering what type of confusion would result with that type of 'nuts and bolts' encounter.
RE: New Bob Dean interview - Required viewing! - 3DMonkey - 05-14-2011
Yes. My definition of Disclosure involves literal, physical.
Now, that's Disclosure, as I define it, not that I discount the other forms of contact. Its just that they are on an individual level, IMO. I certainly would appreciate an ET disclosing him/her self to me privately via any means. I have a pretty strict interpretation of what defines Disclosure with a capital D. Although, I suppose I would give some slack if any other method changed the global thinking to accepting ET and time/space as a given as sure as we all agree that wood burns.
I'm not concerned with any confusion it may cause. It wouldn't be any more confusing than catalysts of centuries past. If there is any room for doubt, then confusion would reign (as it pretty much does now). No, give it to me straight up and let the chips fall where they may.
RE: New Bob Dean interview - Required viewing! - zenmaster - 05-14-2011
Out of all the forms of Disclosure possible, do you think your particular form of Disclosure would be in the highest good for the people of Earth?
RE: New Bob Dean interview - Required viewing! - 3DMonkey - 05-14-2011
I don't personally place that consideration into the definition.
If I had to, I'd say Yes. I'm a firm believer in giving me all the truth from the start.
I'm not trying to play God. I don't even know what is best for my children. I give them as much as I can of what I personally deem beneficial.
I don't know what is out there to be disclosed, but if it leaves room for doubt, I'm not labeling it Disclosure.
RE: New Bob Dean interview - Required viewing! - native - 05-14-2011
(05-14-2011, 03:14 PM)zenmaster Wrote: But you brought it up. I was still hoping you would explain your idea of it. Don't you find the idea of some importance?
Sure. I'd like to hear your ideas though. I find it peculiar that you rarely offer personal opinion.
RE: New Bob Dean interview - Required viewing! - zenmaster - 05-14-2011
(05-14-2011, 05:56 PM)Icaro Wrote:Ok, I'll offer my personal opinion - after you provide yours. Just so we can get on the same page. These assumptions on tacit agreements as to the meaning of 'disclosure' (an vague, umbrella term) do cause problems. We need to elicit meaning that is supporting our concepts, in order to find out what we really think and expect.(05-14-2011, 03:14 PM)zenmaster Wrote: But you brought it up. I was still hoping you would explain your idea of it. Don't you find the idea of some importance?
Sure. I'd like to hear your ideas though. I find it peculiar that you rarely offer personal opinion.
RE: New Bob Dean interview - Required viewing! - native - 05-14-2011
What I expect to happen is impossible to say. I can only speculate.
Ideally it should be an internal process. One goes through that process by examining the body of evidence out there, which would include those who have had personal sightings and/or contact. So at some level, there will be those who must have agreed before coming here to be subject to direct experience so that a body of evidence can be gathered.
The masses, through their own personal evolution and odd occurrences, are then either able to accept or reject what's out there. It seems to be a choice, as always. But at what point do you attempt to bridge the gap between those who are ready and those who are not? I think that there will probably not be direct mass contact, where governments confess their knowledge or there is a silly mass landing.
As more children are born with strange abilities, I see this being a focal point. The transformation will simply happen right in front of us. Over time, evidence of life or civilizations elsewhere may appear. So to me, disclosure is a process of gradual awakening on an individual level. It would seem that the closer we get to a fully manifested 4th density, teachers would have to appear.
RE: New Bob Dean interview - Required viewing! - zenmaster - 05-14-2011
I also see the only meaningful or useful Disclosure as self disclosure. Many people have not yet accepted themselves, so where is the bridge to process anything useful from ET contact - from that level of being? Information can do more harm than good if there is lack of groundwork, and there is lack of groundwork.
I see the current form of Disclosure as something that people intuit will cause positive social change and many have been nurturing expectations of perceived consequences. Perhaps they want to feel vindicated in their beliefs and values or perhaps they think this information will cause the worldview to change to more support their beliefs and values. Are these selfish drives that do not consider the consequences to everyone? Also, is this something that only the government can possibly provide to the people? Sure, people have a 'right' to know, but on whose terms? Who will ask the questions, and can there possibly be satisfactory or trustworthy answers, even if delivered with honesty? Why won't there be destructive mob reactions?
RE: New Bob Dean interview - Required viewing! - native - 05-14-2011
Awakening then, seems to be a more natural process of inheritance. Those that are wanderers or evolved 3d beings continually incarnate here, look around at what's available or have their own unique experiences, and become examples for others to either inherit or leave be. Nothing is forced.
It would seem then, as you say, much work has to be done on understanding the self and working out the social issues at large. If we are moving into the density of love and understanding, it would be reasonable to suggest that if we want to accelerate the process, we obviously need to focus on these issues. The Confederation has appeared before, to groups apparently seeking higher knowledge. So is disclosure really about ET's, or is it about how the self relates to the world it exists in?
Ultimately the only thing that has been holding us back from evolving is our separation between each other. I don't see the answers coming from the top, as I don't see the Confederation allowing themselves to be spoken for through the power structures.
RE: New Bob Dean interview - Required viewing! - 3DMonkey - 05-14-2011
I don't expect or hope that my version of Disclosure will ever happen.
I like the two versions here, only I don't think it is Disclosure. I consider it more of an inevitable destination if human life continues on the current path.
RE: New Bob Dean interview - Required viewing! - native - 05-14-2011
It seems when we generally talk about disclosure then, what we're really asking is how do we bridge the gap between those that are ready and those that are not? I don't think you can bridge that gap, so it seems to be an internal process that happens over decades, as the society evolves into a more harmonious state of consciousness.
RE: New Bob Dean interview - Required viewing! - 3DMonkey - 05-14-2011
Yeah. If only the media monkeys agreed.