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Food as Catalyst - BrownEye - 04-27-2012 Food is an internal catalyst. This is known. Not only does it form the underlying structure of your "temple", it has an effect on forming your subtle bodies as well. We think it is only sustenance, but it is quite the catalyst. I am now understanding why I do not get sick anymore, and how others that have made diet modifications also do not get sick. It is simply not needed. The need to change was accepted and acted on. The lessons of that aspect are done, and catalyst can now be found through the next level of lessons. (which has been very interesting lately, and fun) Quote:34.7 Questioner: Do what we call contagious diseases play any part in this process with respect to the unmanifested self?Awesomeness. Getting sick used to really suck. Specifically I can feel when I have a pathogen. But it goes nowhere. Quote:When people embark on a raw food journey, they may know about some of the side effects, but the emotional detoxification on a raw food diet can catch them by surprise. Most people understand things such as caffeine withdrawal or cravings for sugary foods. After all, at some point they may have been kept from their morning cup of coffee with the resultant pounding headache and crankiness catching them later.http://www.rawpeople.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=465&Itemid=110 RE: Food as Catalyst - Patrick - 04-27-2012 My friend, this post really comes at the perfect time for me. I thank you deeply ! ![]() RE: Food as Catalyst - BrownEye - 04-27-2012 40.14 Questioner: In dietary matters, what would be the foods that one would include and what would be the foods that one would exclude in a general way for the greatest care of one’s bodily complex? Ra: I am Ra. Firstly, we underline and emphasize that this information is not to be understood literally but as a link or psychological nudge for the body and the mind and spirit. Thus it is the care and respect for the self that is the true thing of importance. In this light we may iterate the basic information given for this instrument’s diet. The vegetables, the fruits, the grains, and to the extent necessary for the individual metabolism, the animal products. These are those substances showing respect for the self. In addition, though this has not been mentioned, for this instrument is not in need of purification, those entities in need of purging the self of a poison thought-form or emotion complex do well to take care in following a program of careful fasting until the destructive thought-form has been purged analogously with the by-products of ridding the physical vehicle of excess material. Again you see the value not to the body complex but used as a link for the mind and spirit. Thus self reveals self to self. Somehow "to the extent necessary for the individual metabolism, the animal products" gets quoted a lot as the green light for consumption of flesh. (to each their own) I may at some point do a post about guides. Plant spirit guides give specific guidance towards which plants to ingest as a benefit to our directive and purpose. So far I have not come across much about animal spirit guides directing towards ingesting animals. Although there is a core of understanding that I feel, that would definitely describe an animal guide directing me to a wild animal, as a sacrifice to my continued existence/purpose. (not to be confused with wholesale slavery and genocide) RE: Food as Catalyst - Patrick - 04-27-2012 I'm definitely in need of "purging the self of a poison thought-form or emotion complex". Do you believe that a water fast of 5 days would be enough ? RE: Food as Catalyst - BrownEye - 04-27-2012 Do you utilize any of the methods Adonai uses for calibrations? You can ask your body exactly what would be best. My preference would be a juice fast. Although, I utilize direct consciousness to remove these things. Diet would be the first step really. As consciousness expands you can use direct awareness/programming, but diet still contains the "base" on what "cleanliness" would build upon. Personally I am not a believer of the fruitarian diet. A lot of fruit is good for cleansing, but not exactly for building. Fruits will give you vitamins. Veggies will give you minerals. The body can create vitamins, but it cannot create a mineral. http://www.30bananasaday.com/forum/topics/channeled-spirits-recommended-water-fruit-excercise-and-passion?xg_browser=iphone Quote:Hey guys, thought this was interesting. Friends of mine are able to channel 'spirits' (humans who were once in the physical on Earth and then died). They asked the spirits " What practical physical things can a person do to help them more easily be in touch/in tune/connect with, their 'spirit guides/spirit guardian/intuition ... RE: Food as Catalyst - Patrick - 04-27-2012 (04-27-2012, 02:43 PM)Pickle Wrote: Do you utilize any of the methods Adonai uses for calibrations? You can ask your body exactly what would be best. My preference would be a juice fast... I've never been able to calibrate properly. I do get a lot of Ear Tones for guidance though. This week I got a Left Ear Tone (means no) when I touched a bottle of pills. ![]() I'm just starting to realize that my physical body is an autonomous entity and I should listen to it more often. RE: Food as Catalyst - BrownEye - 04-27-2012 That reminds me, i had been wanting to hand over more control to the autonomous system. Kind of lost track. RE: Food as Catalyst - Aureus - 04-28-2012 I read somewhere that water fasting after a diet of meat etc is not recommended. Instead, the body should've run on greens before the fast. Do you have any experience? I feel like fasting would be in place.. Love ![]() RE: Food as Catalyst - BrownEye - 04-28-2012 I havent fasted "purposely" before. If i was to choose it now i would do a juice fast. That way the bad is being replaced with good. I am assuming that water only will allow some things to retain. Then you are forced to supplement with minerals as well. I would research which greens would be best, and which fruits may work alongside the greens. Technically you are taking in "light" with fresh juice. So there should be a very beneficial displacement happening. I am theorizing that water fasting was the norm in ancient times because of how hard it would have been to juice. Today we have tech that allows us the juice things we could not before, like wheatgrass. So you can look at today as having the ability to speed up many processes that either were impossible or just took forever to accomplish. RE: Food as Catalyst - Oldern - 04-28-2012 (04-28-2012, 03:49 PM)Wander Wrote: I read somewhere that water fasting after a diet of meat etc is not recommended. Instead, the body should've run on greens before the fast. Well, balance is the key. Many people do not understand how fasting works. Personally, I screwed up my digestive system at least 3 times because I decided to start fasting, then randomly stopped. Randomly started also, so... What makes sense is to do it gradually. If you want to fast, for example, for 3 days - water only -, you need to prepare your body when you are going into and when you are going out of the fasting. That means that the whole process is now not a 3 day fast, but a 13 day plan, where at day 1, you start lightening your food intake, up till the point when you are almost ready to start fasting (day 6), and at day 9, you do not start eating red meat in celebration of a finished fasting, but build up from the lightest food. There is a lot of personal research to be done what one considers lighter, but really, the more simple (grains, salads, fruits and vegetables, etc) one is, the closer it can be used to the fasting phase. Very important to come out of the fasting by introducing your body to only one or two types of food, so you do not put in 10-15 different type of things that all need a totally different digestion - because that will make you feel horrible, and you will go to the restroom every 30-50 mins for the rest of your week - if you are lucky ![]() So plan carefully, make a gradual process out of it, increase the efficiency by meditating on what you are achieving with this, and bam, you are good to go. (04-28-2012, 04:15 PM)Pickle Wrote: I havent fasted "purposely" before. If i was to choose it now i would do a juice fast. That way the bad is being replaced with good. I am assuming that water only will allow some things to retain. Then you are forced to supplement with minerals as well. I do not fully support this idea, mostly because there is a reason behind water. Water is the clearest resonant to all intents. Fasting with water only is the closest one can get to become a clear tool that resonates to the thoughts of the mind and the energies of the spirit. Juice is not needed in that period, even if it might make you "waste" less vitamins in the process. It depends on the purpose of the fasting, I guess. RE: Food as Catalyst - Monica - 04-28-2012 (04-28-2012, 04:15 PM)Pickle Wrote: I havent fasted "purposely" before. If i was to choose it now i would do a juice fast. That way the bad is being replaced with good. I am assuming that water only will allow some things to retain. Then you are forced to supplement with minerals as well. I've fasted many times. I always do a juice fast. It actually detoxifies the body better than doing water alone, plus it's not depleting, energetically. We did a LOT of juice! Fresh greens (kale, spinach, chard, beet tops, lettuce, parsley, cilantro, dandelion, etc.), carrots, cucumber, broccoli, etc. Also lemon/beet/apple, alternated with greens/veggie juices, is great for liver detox. RE: Food as Catalyst - BrownEye - 04-28-2012 Quote: It depends on the purpose of the fasting, I guess.Well yeah. Most are not in a position to sit and meditate for days on end. To continue work or school it is much easier to do juicing. That way the body is rebuilding and replenishing. It will release the trapped garbage a bit faster. If it is mainly used for clearing and meditation, for extended periods, you would still benefit from juicing before going to water only. RE: Food as Catalyst - Monica - 04-28-2012 (04-28-2012, 04:21 PM)Oldern Wrote: you need to prepare your body when you are going into and when you are going out of the fasting. Very true. Alternative practitioners say to gradually eat lighter for 3 days before a fast, and gradually go back to eating normally over a 3-day period after the fast, or even longer if the fast was more than a week or so. I never do the gradual thing going in. Whenever I decided to fast, I usually just felt my energy shift and just did it. I never had any problems. But, coming out of the fast is different. Since the digestive system has slowed down, it's crucially important to start eating again gradually. I usually eat only fruit the first day, then add raw veggies and sprouts the 2nd day, and cooked veggies the 3rd day. So, in my experience, it doesn't matter so much going in, and if anything, I find it easier to just quit eating, than to eat light and be hungry. If I just quit eating, I lose the hunger a lot faster. By the 3rd day, food is an alien substance, and by the end of the first week, I'm usually on quite a high! (natural high that is!) (04-28-2012, 04:21 PM)Oldern Wrote: I do not fully support this idea, mostly because there is a reason behind water. Water is the clearest resonant to all intents. Fasting with water only is the closest one can get to become a clear tool that resonates to the thoughts of the mind and the energies of the spirit. Juice is not needed in that period, even if it might make you "waste" less vitamins in the process. It depends on the purpose of the fasting, I guess. If one had access to a freshly melted glacier or fresh mountain snow melt, I would agree. But 'water' isn't just water. Tap water has chlorine, fluoride, heavy metals, prescription drug residues, and all sorts of contaminants. Not to mention, the inorganic minerals which cannot be assimilated by the body. Not cleansing at all, and it's resonant only with toxicity. Something toxic can't pull out toxins! Bottled water just trades chlorine for the cancer-causing chemicals in the plastic. And, most bottled waters are acidic. And all are oxidizing. So it's really a toss-up which is worse: bottled or tap! Reverse osmosis and distilled are both very clean, but they're both acidic and oxidizing, as well as 'hungry' meaning devoid of minerals. So they will attract toxins to themselves, yes, but they will also pull out the healthy minerals too. So it's very easy to get depleted really quickly. Not to mention, both are very very acidic and oxidizing. Therefore, unless one has access to fresh (not bottled) glacier water or has a high-quality water ionizer, I don't think doing a water fast is effective. Better to do a juice fast, because the water in fresh juices is naturally ionized, meaning the minerals are of such small particle size that they can be assimilated, plus the juices themselves will pull toxins out of the body. Different juices even work on specific organs, so the juice cocktail can be tailored to the person's needs. So a more effective cleanse can be had, without becoming depleted. (04-28-2012, 05:53 PM)Pickle Wrote: Well yeah. Most are not in a position to sit and meditate for days on end. To continue work or school it is much easier to do juicing. That way the body is rebuilding and replenishing. It will release the trapped garbage a bit faster. Exactly! It would be very difficult to function at work when doing water only. But with juice, it's quit doable. RE: Food as Catalyst - BrownEye - 04-28-2012 I was going to mention the water quality of the old time 40 day fasting in caves would most likely be "mineral water" lol! Those on the spiritual path back then were not on a 9 to 5. You know, the water fast is just a removal of catalyst. RE: Food as Catalyst - Patrick - 04-28-2012 (04-28-2012, 03:49 PM)Wander Wrote: ...Do you have any experience? I feel like fasting would be in place... I've water fasted for 5 days in the past, while working, but as a computer programmer that's not an issue. Like Oldern said, you need to properly prepare for it. I know what it's like and how to do it. I was just wondering if 5 days would be enough for clearing metaphysically ? |