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Fourth density archetypes - Shemaya - 08-17-2012
Interesting thought I had the other day, because I was thinking about Archetypes in conversation with somebody.
The descriptions of archetypes Ra gave us are based on 3rd density energies and relationships. And the commentaries here in the forums are along those lines.
So my thought is now that 4 th density is here how do they change? How are the energies shifting since the choice is made and we are birthing a new world?
I think it might be up to us move this forward, and tap into the archetypal shifts that are occurring as a function of higher density, and create 4th density understandings of the archetypes.
Any thoughts?
TheEternal answered my question the other day, so this is prompting my question.
Quote: That being said, the archetypes are not static, they are evolving, however they are "established" patterns which are something of the basic configurations of experiences and perception within any given field of existence. There is also no real static number for these archetypes, for even though they are distinct, they also exist in various iterations and expressions of themselves. They are things in and of themselves, but at the same time they are raw materials for the creation of personalities, or temperaments. The alchemical mixture of archetypes which one engages in is very largely responsible for the patterns of manifestation which one energizes within their life stream. We would not say any is "becoming" the archetypes, but rather that all are growing in to increased awareness of the Deep Mind which contains all possible archetypes, and rather one is, in a way, formulating an archetype which is absolutely unique to their particular pathway of consciousness in the universe, and it is this creation of archetypes which is some of the highest work of this Octave.
Beyond this Octave the raw materials which compose archetypes are finely experimented and examined with. This is all macrocosmic and microcosmic, so as we, as individuations of all the great beings of the cosmos, go through our evolution, it is synchronistic with those great beings experimenting with the raw materials that create universes stemming from archetypal perception. We are these experiments at play, in the process of discovery.
RE: Fourth density archetypes - Siren - 08-17-2012
Imagine a school. Imagine, if you will, various books and tools and learning materials for each grade. The Tarot is a learning tool for 3rd grade (3rd density experience).
RE: Fourth density archetypes - JustLikeYou - 08-17-2012
So long as we inhabit 3D bodies (i.e. until we die, walk the steps of light, and then reincarnate in a higher density vehicle), we will always experiences our lives within the 3D archetypes (the 3rd grade learning tools). These archetypes may be further fleshed out, but they will not transform into 4D archetypes. Rather, there already exists a fourth density world (which we do not inhabit because we do not have the proper bodies) and in this world the 4D archetypes are already in place. What exactly they are, I cannot say, since I cannot imagine 4D very well.
However, the 3D archetypes contain within them the roadmap for more evolution than you will have time to accomplish within this lifetime. For which of us has become a fully realized being? Which of us has achieved perfect balance and lives in violet ray consciousness without wavering? The new 4D vibrations match the positive side of the archetypes, so even though these archetypes are for the 3D experience, they are not dissonant with the new energies except in their negative sides. On the contrary, seeking ever greater purity through attentiveness to the archetypes which are at work in your life will bring you into closer resonance with this new energy more quickly than if you were to continue on without studying the archetypes.
Imagine that in 4th grade the students in 3rd grade are split into different groups and they begin to focus on the details of the basics learned in 3rd grade in a way that was not possible without separating from each other. When you are about to graduate, you can begin to learn lessons which will be more properly useful to you in 4th grade, but you will not yet be in a 4th grade classroom using 4th grade tools.
RE: Fourth density archetypes - Shemaya - 08-18-2012
(08-17-2012, 03:54 PM)JustLikeYou Wrote: However, the 3D archetypes contain within them the roadmap for more evolution than you will have time to accomplish within this lifetime. For which of us has become a fully realized being? Which of us has achieved perfect balance and lives in violet ray consciousness without wavering? The new 4D vibrations match the positive side of the archetypes, so even though these archetypes are for the 3D experience, they are not dissonant with the new energies except in their negative sides. On the contrary, seeking ever greater purity through attentiveness to the archetypes which are at work in your life will bring you into closer resonance with this new energy more quickly than if you were to continue on without studying the archetypes.
That's for sure, lots of work to do in that regard. No doubt I can continue on to infinitely balance and tune and open to intelligent infinity.
My thinking is along the lines of our vast potential, creativity, and imagination. That we are the ones who are doing this, creating a 4 th density, green ray social- memory complex. So then can we tap into our higher selves and discover 4th density and also create it?
After all lots of third graders are moving along more quickly than the curriculum, and they are ready for 4th grade tools. and I don't see a rigid separation the way you have described. Our bodies are activating to fourth density energy, I know this because I can feel it.
Something to think about, it might be fun to play with the idea/ question. What are the fourth density archetypes for our social - memory complex?
RE: Fourth density archetypes - JustLikeYou - 08-18-2012
The prospect of assisting in the creation of the 4D social memory complex is definitely a spiritual experience (which means that Archetypes 15-21 are the central ones). The entire process and the end result seem to me to be consonant with Archetype 21, the Great Way of the Spirit, where the self and the Universe merge into one, where the infinity within and the infinity beyond appear as the same Infinity.
The rigidity I am describing is a simple matter of mind/body capability. My cats are moving into 3D energies, but they still cannot philosophize. In the course of their lives, no matter how much they evolve, they still will not be able to philosophize. Rather, they have occasional moments of self-consciousness which I can read by their behavior. The moment they reincarnate in 3D bodies, they will be equipped with the tools necessary for the task of philosophizing, but until then they can only learn the very most rudimentary lesson of 3D work: consistent self-awareness.
If I had to guess, I'd say that 4D archetypes are probably parallel to the 3D ones, but with different central features. The choice, for example, is no longer relevant because it has already been made.
RE: Fourth density archetypes - AnthroHeart - 08-18-2012
JustLikeYou, are you saying that by the choice has already been made, that everyone has already made their choice?
Or does this deal with harvest, that time is running out for people to make their choice?
RE: Fourth density archetypes - JustLikeYou - 08-18-2012
I was referring to experience within 4th Density, which is after the harvest and the 3-way split of souls (positive 4D, negative 4D, new 3D cycle). So in terms of life on Earth, I was referring to the future.
RE: Fourth density archetypes - Shemaya - 08-19-2012
(08-18-2012, 10:04 AM)JustLikeYou Wrote: The prospect of assisting in the creation of the 4D social memory complex is definitely a spiritual experience (which means that Archetypes 15-21 are the central ones). The entire process and the end result seem to me to be consonant with Archetype 21, the Great Way of the Spirit, where the self and the Universe merge into one, where the infinity within and the infinity beyond appear as the same Infinity.
Which one is Archetype 21? The Universe?
Quote:The rigidity I am describing is a simple matter of mind/body capability. My cats are moving into 3D energies, but they still cannot philosophize. In the course of their lives, no matter how much they evolve, they still will not be able to philosophize. Rather, they have occasional moments of self-consciousness which I can read by their behavior. The moment they reincarnate in 3D bodies, they will be equipped with the tools necessary for the task of philosophizing, but until then they can only learn the very most rudimentary lesson of 3D work: consistent self-awareness.
Yes, that makes sense, and I see your point J. This also puts my experiences into a context that I was unable to fully grasp when it happened. When trying to push ahead and progress too fast, it is dis honoring in a way to the body which actually has limitations. Unlimited potential may be available for the body in unlimited spans of time, but it is important to recognize where we are in the moment.
Quote:If I had to guess, I'd say that 4D archetypes are probably parallel to the 3D ones, but with different central features. The choice, for example, is no longer relevant because it has already been made.
I would think it would be about the expansion of love and expansion of power in our bodies, and embracing our birthright as co-creators.
RE: Fourth density archetypes - JustLikeYou - 08-19-2012
Yes, that's the Universe card. I'll be more careful to name each care from now on.
I tend to try to evolve a little too fast sometimes also. Fortunately, I am a very active person and avoid drugs, so even though I push myself hard, I don't tend to try to force the indigo center into greater activity before the lower ones.
Also, there is unlimited potential even within the context of 3D. Does the balancing ever end? It may not happen like it does in 4D, but it's still limitless.
RE: Fourth density archetypes - Shemaya - 08-19-2012
(08-19-2012, 08:23 AM)JustLikeYou Wrote: Yes, that's the Universe card. I'll be more careful to name each care from now on.
I tend to try to evolve a little too fast sometimes also. Fortunately, I am a very active person and avoid drugs, so even though I push myself hard, I don't tend to try to force the indigo center into greater activity before the lower ones.
Also, there is unlimited potential even within the context of 3D. Does the balancing ever end? It may not happen like it does in 4D, but it's still limitless.
Haha can relate! also have avoided drugs, not for me. I think the foundation of the lower chakras in balance and open is so important. And yes, agree, the balancing does not end, it is limitless, a new story can happen at every step of the journey.
RE: Fourth density archetypes - Spaced - 08-19-2012
(08-18-2012, 10:04 AM)JustLikeYou Wrote: If I had to guess, I'd say that 4D archetypes are probably parallel to the 3D ones, but with different central features. The choice, for example, is no longer relevant because it has already been made.
I think that the choice will still be around, I think it will be the momentum generated by making your choice which will propel action in 4th density. I agree that the archetypal mind will still operate in a similar framework, but I think changes in the nature of experience might change the roles or workings of some archetypes, for example those which are dependent on the presence of the veil. At the end of this path though, I'm sure there will be another choice to be made
RE: Fourth density archetypes - JustLikeYou - 08-20-2012
Free will does not end, but the great choice of either STS or STO only happens in 3D. You cannot experience 4D or 5D without having already chosen. This is why the positive and negative polarities separate.
RE: Fourth density archetypes - AnthroHeart - 08-20-2012
So rather than worrying about percentages of STO or STS, it's about making the choice, consciously.
I think I'm going to enjoy the more subtle work of 4D.