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Depression - SometimesThere - 10-02-2012 Hello everyone. For the last year or so I have really been struggling with depression. It's not a constant depression, but something that comes upon me now and then and weighs heavily on my mind. While reading the LOO material has helped, it has not erased the depression completely. I'm wondering if anyone could give me some help to get rid of this. I have seen a Psychiatrist and was prescribed medication, and though it has helped somewhat, I find I'm still suffering from depression. Specifically, does Ra ever mention why someone in the 3rd dimension would get depressed? Is this just a normal 3rd dimension thing? RE: Depression - oguz - 10-02-2012 in my opinion main reason of depression is not being able to socialize sufficiently in youth. Not having enough and satisfying relations may trigger depression. Intimate relations are need for brain as much they are for soul. While there isn't satisfying social relations at the young ages and as work place adds to this, a big depression risk is created. RE: Depression - Patrick - 10-02-2012 http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/1985/1985_0922.aspx L/Leema Wrote:...We have been asked to speak this evening upon the subject of despair, its form, its function, and its use. We would divide our speaking into three categories—the despair of the mind, the despair of the body and the despair of the spirit. "Specifically, does Ra ever mention why someone in the 3rd dimension would get depressed? Is this just a normal 3rd dimension thing?" It's normal in the sense that we are not supposed to be always well and comfortable in this density. And this planet specifically is very dense with catalysts. Normally in 3d you live up to 900 years, but here it is so difficult for our mind to process all the catalysts coming in that our body receives a good load of it and so we live less than a 100 years or so. Depression is part of the kind of catalysts that are cyclic in nature. RE: Depression - oguz - 10-02-2012 a good site about natural solutions http://www.naturalhealthontheweb.com/antidepressants-2012/top-7-safe-and-effective-alternatives-to-synthetic-antidepressants have a good day RE: Depression - Brittany - 10-02-2012 <personal opinion disclaimer> Antidepressants are poison. The ones I was on screwed me up good. They didn't make me feel good, they just made me feel numb, and I got nothing productive done while I was on them, eventually flunking out of college because I didn't want to do anything but sleep. I still struggle with suicidal depression on and off, but I'd rather feel naturally awful than be a lump on the couch. As I've done deep spiritual work involving each of my chakras over a period of several years I've gradually felt better and better, my depressive episodes less and less crippling. However, if there is a complete and instantaneous fix for that particular set of emotions, I don't know what it is. Sometimes you just have to let yourself feel what you're going to feel and accept that this is the Creator, too, and that love can be found somewhere in the moment. We are, after all, called the Brothers and Sisters of Sorrow. Also, knowing why you are depressed can be very helpful. It took me ages to figure it out, and involved factors stemming back into my early childhood. I do believe it is possible for the brain to malfunction in the production of dopamine and serotonin, resulting in a drop in mood with seemingly no stimulus, but I have long stopped believing that anyone is a victim to the "condition of depression", helpless to do anything but take the pills big pharma cranks out. Every physical condition has a root in the metaphysical, and I would find this true with depression especially. Coming to deeply know yourself on all levels is the solution to many 3D problems. RE: Depression - BlatzAdict - 10-02-2012 ra says it's my choice to feel wasted by my feeling of feeling wasted or to take it and make something of it. turning my s*** into gold so to speak. sure does take faith .. i tell you what, i call my angels to me and my guides, to help me and anyone else who would need their services to feel that they are well with all that is. gotta make believe this part, and then usually i get signs later confirming it. it's definately not easy that's for sure. but a general 180 in how most of us are brought up to think. to find solace in the good that will come from the immediate sadness and then it comes back down to faith. dark night of the soul indeed RE: Depression - oguz - 10-02-2012 some good ways to alleviate http://www.webmd.com/depression/ss/slideshow-depression-diet-stress-exercise take care RE: Depression - βαθμιαίος - 10-02-2012 Ra mentions that wanders may suffer from feelings of alienation and personality disorders. Not necessarily the same as depression, but possibly not unrelated. Quote:12.30 ...Due to the extreme variance between the vibratory distortions of third density and those of the more dense densities, if you will, Wanderers have as a general rule some form of handicap, difficulty, or feeling of alienation which is severe. The most common of these difficulties are alienation, the reaction against the planetary vibration by personality disorders, as you would call them, and body complex ailments indicating difficulty in adjustment to the planetary vibrations such as allergies, as you would call them. RE: Depression - zenmaster - 10-02-2012 There are many potential contributing factors to depression though. Mood may be both supported and inhibited by both mind and body. The really basic and preliminary things to address would be what constitutes your diet, how you exercise, sleep duration and quality, water and air quality, and daily stressors. RE: Depression - SometimesThere - 10-03-2012 Thanks for the replies everyone. I really do appreciate it, and all your posts have given me something to think about. For now, I think I'll try to discover what exactly brings on my depression. After that, I'll focus on improving my diet and sleeping patterns to see if I can achieve some sort of improvement. I'm still unsure whether I should give up the tablets. They have given me some help, but I don't want to continue taking them if they are effecting me badly. RE: Depression - Meerie - 10-03-2012 I think it is also the heaviness of this density that exerces pressure over us, and makes us depressed... brings us down, like Patrick already illustrated. good luck and know that you are not alone in feeling this way, my friend ![]() RE: Depression - Guardian - 10-03-2012 Many depressions are simply a symptom of some other pathology. There are many hormone and vitamin deficiencies that can mimic the symptoms of depression. There are also many forms of meditation that will alleviate depression. I would recommend getting a full blood screen for hormones, vitamins, and minerals. Cutting out gluten, sugar, and dairy from your diet. And if that doesn't work doing a 10 day vipassana meditation. RE: Depression - BlatzAdict - 10-03-2012 i recommend going to a very busy place to meet people with the intention of not focusing on yourself but on others. taking yourself out of the situation can be a relief at times for a break. other times i feel i need to be in it to process it and eventually move past it. i think i'm going through something similar now to you sometimesthere. embracing it? eh yea i think it makes things more managable. resisting or dwelling on it, definately is like sticking salt in my own wound at this point. RE: Depression - AnthroHeart - 10-03-2012 Depression hasn't been something I've struggled with in the past. More like something along the lines of bipolar mixed with schizophrenia. It's actually kind of neat when I actually hallucinate things. Though the hallucinations I feel are my 3rd eye opening wide up and being a form of clairvoyance. The bipolar though makes me more sensitive to where I can feel like I'm in heaven, or being dragged to hell. That's difficult to deal with because when I'm in heaven I want to just go naked, but you can't do that in public. I keep thinking that anthros don't wear clothes, and in that state I can think I'm an anthro (my dream). The world again is feeling more magical to me. It goes in cycles from ordinary to extraordinary. RE: Depression - reeay - 10-03-2012 I agree what a lot of you said on this issue. From a clinical standpoint, you have to look deeper than the symptoms that you are experiencing. The "cause" if you will may be biological (e.g., hormonal) or personal/social (e.g., isolation), or both, if this depression has been a long-standing issue etc. If you have endocrinological issues such as diabetes or thyroid issues such as hypothyroidism, depression symptoms may be common. Check with the resources available in our community to understand what is going on. When we start labeling ourself as depressed, I tell you my friends, we will become that. You are not "depression." When we start saying things like, "I'm depressed" or "yeah I'm an antisocial" (no!!) or "yeah I'm so ADHD"... that is what you will manifest. It becomes your false identity or "mask" that you use to be an Oscar winning caliber actor in this stage called 3D life. The mental health industry along with pharma industry need this pathology oriented labels for their own purpose (i.e., it's man-made in certain aspects). So don't let this distortion become your distortion! So first, check in with your body (or have others help you - like medical doctors or psychiatrists or psychologists or naturalpaths or healers) and make sure that these symptoms are not a part of other physical issues. You are beautiful person who has so lovingly and courageously come into this world to be yourself. When you know who you truly are and you engage in a journey of growing/developing/remembering, you will see yourself and your world differently. You can't change what happens (or happened) to you in your 3D life, but you are able to change it's meaning into something positive and constructive. Are you living in full honesty of who you are and what you are? Are you living someone else's dream and not your's? Have you processed your trauma (if you have experienced trauma)? etc. etc. Every person's reason for feeling sad, angry, pained, lethargic, unmotivated, etc. is different. Clear those distortions or luggage that is not working for you. The "how" is really an open terrain. I recommend one cool method you could try at home called Emotional Freedom Technique. If you google it, you'll find lots of good resources. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r7OZwhcqxY. Edit: I was just reading this thread on the forum - thought it made sense http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=5235 Good luck on your journeys ![]() RE: Depression - turtledude23 - 10-11-2012 I have depression, what helped me was psychotherapy, Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, antidepressants, and rTMS. I suggest you seek medical attention immediately because there's a long wait for psychotherapists and psychiatrists, and antidepressants take 2 weeks to kick in. One of the main factors in causing depression is genetic. Depressed people have different brains from non-depressed people. RE: Depression - AnthroHeart - 10-11-2012 I was told that Omega 3 is good for depression. RE: Depression - caycegal - 10-11-2012 (10-03-2012, 04:30 AM)SometimesThere Wrote: Thanks for the replies everyone. I really do appreciate it, and all your posts have given me something to think about. For now, I think I'll try to discover what exactly brings on my depression. After that, I'll focus on improving my diet and sleeping patterns to see if I can achieve some sort of improvement. Sorry, I didn't see the part about which tablets you are taking. Good luck and keep reading and thinking about where you want to go and how best to get there! It's your journey, no one else's, and no one else can know what you should do. RE: Depression - charlie2012 - 10-11-2012 i might be repeating what all others have said, but i'd like to make a contribution to your depression. i have gone through millions of different moods/vibrations (euphoric, happy, content, sad, suicidal) and tried all kind of solutions to these problems but there is but one that has truly worked for me. begin with being clear and true to yourself and what you wish to accomplish. do you want to get rid of this "depression"? if the answer is yes, then you are on the path to clear this distortion (which keeps you from being yourself/lets you experience other things than being yourself). now let go of trying to fix it. experience it. let yourself go deeper, don't try to stop it. you'll know when you've hit rock bottom, because this is where you probably want to end this experience/life, where you can't go on. now ask yourself what you really want to do. do you want to be yourself? what did you experience to make you feel like this? why would you feel like this? what would you like to feel like? what is keeping you from feeling that? pursue your greatest fears to meet them and change them into what you want them to be. they have made your life possible. without them your experiences would not have been what they have been. they've taught you all that you've learnt. the one truth is that we learn. we experience. we love. we are. all else are distortions of the truth. but only in order to experience. be honest with yourself. be true to yourself. don't beat yourself up over what you've done. even if you do, that's okay. as long as you are inside this experience, you are learning. what's wrong with that? and if you feel something is wrong, pursue it. go on till you can't. then take a brake and feel good about yourself. and then get back in the game. go. love. cry. shout. in order to become ourselves we need to clear these problems/distortions from our minds. and the only way to do that is to face our problems/distortions. no disrespect to anyone in this thread, and if you feel some you need to change your mind about it, but keeping things simple is the key. listen to yourself. look around you. when you see others that you have a problem with, fix it. because the problem/distortion is not in them, but in you. baaaaaaauuuuuuuuuuoooooooooooooooom and im back to being my distorted self (mind complex, sector 26 (jk)). thank you for your time! that helped me a lot to! back to learning! LOVE! RE: Depression - jacrob - 10-11-2012 My bouts of severe depression have decreased from 7 days per week to now 1 day per week over the last 4 years. Prior to that I wasn't really depressed. I would reccommend lots of sunlight, meditation, comedies, lots of laughter increases feel-good hormones in the body. Tons of water also, 3+ litres. There are other measures you can take such as crystal healing, guided meditations to assist you in release etc. My understanding is that depression results from years of repressed anger and frustration. Stemming back even from times in your toddler years. You wanted to jump around and play and were told to sit still and be quiet. Your heart stored that frustration. Now imagine years of having your natural inclinations stiffled. Your personality is of the type that did not easily release emotions, and repressed it instead. So the result is all the compounded emotions give you that heavy depressed feeling. Like you can't even get out of bed. You need to start releasing that. There are many ways you can do that depending on your bent. I can let you know all the measures I took to getting over my dark night of the soul if you're interested. I firmly believe all the depression people are suffering is your Higher Self's way of helping you release and become the best you can be, and after each bout of sadness you bounce back a little higher, and higher until you are golden. Unfortunately it takes time to get to your highest and best self. RE: Depression - xise - 10-11-2012 I can say that for me, the key things that lessened my down cycles were a) having faith b) meditation c) balancing my chakras, especially lower ones (they often say depression is most likely an issue with the red, orange, yellow ray center). RE: Depression - MissMiko - 10-18-2012 (10-02-2012, 04:38 AM)SometimesThere Wrote: Hello everyone. Hey, I really appreciate your post here. There is something quite admirable about those that seek answers about our internal struggles. Remember that depression is only a state of mind. And it is in our thoughts that we are responding to emotionally. In our natural state as "light beings" we are pure positive energy. Coming into these earth bodies we experience a pull that you can identify with as a negative frequency. Hence we experience that yin/yang effect.... But you really want to tap deeper into your subconscious, communicate with your Higher Self and identify with what you truly believe about your experience here. Emotions are your feelings communicated from our "inner being"....you know that other dimension of yourself? Its letting you know that you are seeing something in your thoughts that isn't resonating with the truth of your experience. The whole point of this 3rd dimensional experience is to integrate all the dimensions of yourself, knowing that you are multidimensional. ![]() RE: Depression - spero - 10-18-2012 figured id go hunting for some old transcripts on depression. heres really the only one that heavily focused on it and unfortunately it ends prematurely...soz. maybe there are other sessions out there. Ive been on antidepressants on-off for the past two years. nothing to be ashamed of and to be fair they help with depression if not productivity lol. i tend to go on them for 6 months...feel loads better than wheen off them...6 months later everyone around me notices im depressed again and so i go back on them lol. time is usually a great perspective changer and things that made me depressed a couple years ago dont phase me as much anymore. if its a situation thats making you depressed do you best little-by-little or alternatively in large dramatic leaps to make a difference. hope this helps ![]() http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/issues/1987/1987_0726.aspx Quote:July 26, 1987 RE: Depression - caycegal - 10-19-2012 (10-11-2012, 09:08 PM)xise Wrote: I can say that for me, the key things that lessened my down cycles were a) having faith b) meditation c) balancing my chakras, especially lower ones (they often say depression is most likely an issue with the red, orange, yellow ray center). Would like to hear what techniques you are using for balancing the chakras, and whether they differ for each chakra. Thanks in advance. RE: Depression - xise - 10-20-2012 (10-19-2012, 10:38 PM)caycegal Wrote:(10-11-2012, 09:08 PM)xise Wrote: I can say that for me, the key things that lessened my down cycles were a) having faith b) meditation c) balancing my chakras, especially lower ones (they often say depression is most likely an issue with the red, orange, yellow ray center). 1. Research/Study of the Chakra 2. Attempting to open the chakra using all available means in a sustained yet gentle way, without expectation. I focused on a chakra I wanted to open first by reading all available material on that chakra - what traits shined through it, what activities enhanced it, what aromas were best for it, what issues typically accumulate it in, what physical symptoms a blocked one would express, and what crystals helped open it. a. I then would spend time during the day to exemplify or roleplay the traits that balanced chakra would use (even if it felt artificial at first) b. I would think thoughts and affirmations that reinforced I already had those traits within me but I had to let them shine through - this one is hard because my stupid mind still thinks negative thoughts!! But I've learned that "I" am only maybe like 20% of my thoughts...the 80% of my thoughts is just a scared child known as my ego ![]() c. I would focus my awareness in meditations on that particular chakra and focus my breath on the area visualizing energy of the color of that center d. I would use incense known to open that chakra during the meditations e. I would also do yoga that is targeted for opening that chakra f. I would also do activities known to open that chakra g. I would wear crystals that open the chakra as close as possible to the area I wanted to open at all times (I got a 40" necklace and would put stones in front pocket). h. Most importantly, once I felt energy movement in that chakra enough that I could tell what it felt like to have that chakra moving, I would visualize that memory of that energetic chakra while doing the above, and it really seemed to help speed up the process. I wouldn't do all of this all of the time, but as much as I could would becoming obsessive or losing sight of a expectation-less gentle patient approach to the opening effort, kind of like letting a flower bloom. A real block on my harder chakras was being patient and not getting frustrated. Even after feeling energy starting to move, I had to have it happen a few more times to make sure I wasn't imagining it. It took me maybe 1 month of the above steps to actually feel energy in my sacral chakra. For me, my chakra feelings are such (I think they are probably pretty different for everyone): -All chakras: Sometimes, before I feel the energy move, I feel the heartbeat in that area of the chakra. Sometimes this was the only feeling I'd get before I actually felt energy move in the chakra for weeks on end. -Root: Slow moving static electricity in the general vicinity of the chakra -Sacral: Almost feels like a medicine dropper squirting energy from the sides into the center area of my chakra. -Solar: Bolts of fast moving electricity and also moments of building electrical potential -Heart: A physical sensation in the area, maybe a bit like heartache, but also a warm encompassing feeling in the heart area -Throat: The classic "lump in your throat" feeling, but also slowly moving static electricity over the chin, and the upper neck and rear neck (which I am told in some systems are separate chakras) -Third Eye: Sparks, sometimes a throbbing pulsating feeling -Crown: A pulsating spiraling feeling, sometimes very warm, feels like what I would imagine having a data cable plugged into your head would feel like. I've used google along with the following books to learn about the above information: Chakra Therapy by Keith Sherwood (Meditation, Yoga) Crystal Chakra Healing by Philip Permutt A Wanderer's Handbook by Carla Rueckert (Great for traits) Best of luck! Have faith and patience (I asked for a better understanding of the concepts involved in faith in one of my meditations and got the answer: patience ![]() ![]() much love, xise RE: Depression - reeay - 10-20-2012 Great information, xise! How do you go about checking-in on your chakra so you know which chakra you need to focus on? Do you go with what you're experience (like correlating symptoms to chakra function) or felt-sense of which chakra seems blocked, etc. etc.? RE: Depression - xise - 10-20-2012 (10-20-2012, 04:09 AM)rie Wrote: Great information, xise! For me: (1) a combination of looking at the associated balanced traits versus my personality traits, (2) the typical issues that blocks that area versus my issues, (3) the energy flow I would spontaneously feel over a given week (nowadays, I usually feel my heart and crown almost daily in day to day activities, then every other day my root and sacral and throat these days, and it feels right now I rarely feel third eye or solar plexus, so I think I probably need to work on those a bit more), and (4) the energy flow I was able to feel when I focused on that area during meditation. Although the third and fourth are less reliable since for me my energy seems to ebb and flow on a weekly basis (solar flare times are fun though!). But over a few weeks, I usually can get a pretty good indication in comparing how often I felt sensations in my more open energy centers versus my possibly closed/blocked ones. RE: Depression - reeay - 10-20-2012 Thank you! It's really awesome that you are in touch with your body system! RE: Depression - Patrick - 10-20-2012 I use catalysts from everyday life to balance my chakras. I believe working directly on your chakras can only result in temporary changes. RE: Depression - xise - 10-20-2012 (10-20-2012, 08:46 AM)Patrick Wrote: I use catalysts from everyday life to balance my chakras. I believe working directly on your chakras can only result in temporary changes. Agreed. If you don't address the day to day reactions to catalyst that led your energy center to become blocked in the first place, the blockage will reoccur. |