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Looking for good books to help learn some math and physics. - Sagittarius - 02-09-2013
So I have been poring through psychology/philosophy books for the last few weeks and suddenly got the urge to learn some physics or at least the basic concepts behind it.
I have always been a bit handicapped in math but I suspect this is more so to my complete disinterest in it for the majority of my life rather then a propensity to be bad at it. A few books I have read where tying in quantum physics with psychology or theorizing about it and I actually found myself genuinely interested in math/physics for the first time or better yet had confidence I understood the concepts as much as is possible with no math/physics learning.
Anyone have any good starter books? I just ordered physics for dummies.
RE: Looking for good books to help learn some math and physics. - Eddie - 02-09-2013
Start your journey with Euclid's Elements (many translations are available freely on line).
End it with A Treatise on Electricity and Magnetism by James Clerk Maxwell.
Somewhere in there, study Dewey Larson's ideas of physics (many good web sites attend to this, most may be found by a search for "Reciprocal Systems Theory")
Also, along the way, read In Search of the Miraculous, by P.D.Ouspensky; The Holographic Universe, by Michael Talbot, and Wholeness and the Implicate Order, by David Bohm.
If you manage to finish all of these successfully, before I die, I will treat you to several bottles of good champagne.
Edited to add: Sagittarius, the Treatise on Electricity and Magnetism is extremely sophisticated and difficult; it requires considerable facility in both differential equations, and quaternion mathematics (the latter being a lost art). Don't let this discourage you, but you'll need to do a great deal of work to get from "point A" to "point B".
RE: Looking for good books to help learn some math and physics. - Sagittarius - 02-09-2013
(02-09-2013, 09:08 PM)Eddie Wrote: Start your journey with Euclid's Elements (many translations are available freely on line).
End it with A Treatise on Electricity and Magnetism by James Clerk Maxwell.
Somewhere in there, study Dewey Larson's ideas of physics (many good web sites attend to this, most may be found by a search for "Reciprocal Systems Theory")
Also, along the way, read In Search of the Miraculous, by P.D.Ouspensky; The Holographic Universe, by Michael Talbot, and Wholeness and the Implicate Order, by David Bohm.
If you manage to finish all of these successfully, before I die, I will treat you to several bottles of good champagne.
Edited to add: Sagittarius, the Treatise on Electricity and Magnetism is extremely sophisticated and difficult; it requires considerable facility in both differential equations, and quaternion mathematics (the latter being a lost art). Don't let this discourage you, but you'll need to do a great deal of work to get from "point A" to "point B".
Thanks mate looks like an extremely helpful list. I will bookmark this thread and come back to those books when I'am ready. I'll get through physics for dummies which seams like an excellent basic starting point. No doubt I have a lot of learning to do before I can get anywhere near understanding the advanced stuff.
Bout time I dusted of the old graphics calculator.
"point a" to "point b" I see what you did there hehe.
RE: Looking for good books to help learn some math and physics. - Ashim - 02-10-2013
The Daniel Papers cover much ground and are very readable.
http://www.soldierhugs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Time-and-Timelines-1.pdf
RE: Looking for good books to help learn some math and physics. - zenmaster - 02-10-2013
I've learned "mind" is primary to matter, so psychology and philosophy are going to be primary to the understanding of any physical theory. In physics, we're constantly bumping up against our insufficient epistemological foundations precisely due to lack of appreciation of the nature of "mind" (ultimately the "Archetypical Mind".) Some stuff of interest:
The Pythagorean Sourcebook and Library: An Anthology of Ancient Writings Which Relate to Pythagoras and Pythagorean Philosophy (must read)
https://sites.google.com/site/heideggerheraclitus/
Critique of Pure Reason (Phenomena [3D] and Noumena [4D])
Space, Time, and Deity (Where Ra got "space/time" and "time/space")
Creative Evolution (anti-reductionism)
Gödel's Proof (logic)
The Logic of Scientific Discovery (what is science?)
The Structure of Scientific Revolutions (History of science)
Process-Relational Philosophy: An Introduction to Alfred North Whitehead
A Student's Guide to Maxwell's Equations (Brilliant)
The Neglected Facts of Science (Larson)
Nothing But Motion (Larson)
The Universe of Motion (Larson)
Chaos: Making a New Science (Chaos Theory)
An Introduction to Systems Science (advent of yellow meme)
General System Theory: Foundations, Development, Applications (rational holism)
Introduction to Systems Theory (rational holism)
Gauge Fields, Knots, and Gravity (Series on Knots and Everything)
http://www.thinkartlab.com/pkl/media/DERRIDA/DERRIDA.htm (complexity theory)
Gotthard Günther’s polycontextural logic (perspectives)
The Origins of Order
At Home in the Universe
Hidden Order
A Place for Consciousness: Probing the Deep Structure of the Natural World (mind/matter problem)
Synchronicity: The Bridge Between Matter and Mind (easy read)
A Brief History of Everything (integral psychology)
How to Solve It: Modern Heuristics (practical math)
http://www.circular-theory.com/ (circle as primary)
http://www.integralworld.net/ (integral philosophy)
http://indigo.ie/~peter/integral.html (holistic mathematics)
https://sites.google.com/site/unifiedcomplexity/Andrei_Kirilyuk (anti-reductionism)
http://fqxi.org/community/forum (free thinking in physics)
RE: Looking for good books to help learn some math and physics. - Sagittarius - 02-10-2013
Brilliant guys thanks. Funny you say that Zen I just finished quantum psychology by Robert Anton Wilson which sparked my enthusiasm for becoming more adept at physics particularly the math side. I find it much easier to understand physics through actual situations rather then through math theory and I realize if I want to hone my understanding I really need to get into the math so I can begin to get a feel for the whole process. But the similarities between Physics and Psychology are quite extraordinary. Wilson's circuit model of consciousness is also quite similar to the spiral theory meme's.
Great list as well Zen, will order a few of them tonight.
RE: Looking for good books to help learn some math and physics. - zenmaster - 02-10-2013
All I can say is go for it. The more you learn through discipline, the more you realize what is possible by the individual, and the more value you are capable of offering. Also, the more you will be capable of appreciating and the less you will succumb to the new-agey whiny conspiracy theory pathology (which is suspicion of self projected at others due to lack of taking responsibility for learning).
RE: Looking for good books to help learn some math and physics. - Monica - 02-10-2013
(02-10-2013, 04:43 AM)zenmaster Wrote: Space, Time, and Deity (Where Ra got "space/time" and "time/space")
:exclamation:
RE: Looking for good books to help learn some math and physics. - Plenum - 02-10-2013
(02-09-2013, 08:33 PM)Sagittarius Wrote: So I have been poring through psychology/philosophy books for the last few weeks and suddenly got the urge to learn some physics or at least the basic concepts behind it.
I have always been a bit handicapped in math but I suspect this is more so to my complete disinterest in it for the majority of my life rather then a propensity to be bad at it. A few books I have read where tying in quantum physics with psychology or theorizing about it and I actually found myself genuinely interested in math/physics for the first time or better yet had confidence I understood the concepts as much as is possible with no math/physics learning.
Anyone have any good starter books? I just ordered physics for dummies.
what High School maths did you do? 2 Unit? do they even have that anymore lol.
are there some bridging courses you can take at uni? not for the expectation of doing university maths, but the bridging courses might be useful in themselves.
of course, self study and self discipline is always a good path, but its nice to nice peers to work things out with.
RE: Looking for good books to help learn some math and physics. - zenmaster - 02-10-2013
(02-10-2013, 06:36 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:(02-10-2013, 04:43 AM)zenmaster Wrote: Space, Time, and Deity (Where Ra got "space/time" and "time/space")
:exclamation:
Yes indeed, that's the first dialectical treatment of the two concepts, as one, that exists in our literature which also carries the same meaning as related by Ra. Thus Ra used the concept introduced by the philosophy of Alexander (as did Larson).
RE: Looking for good books to help learn some math and physics. - Sagittarius - 02-10-2013
(02-10-2013, 07:41 PM)plenum Wrote:(02-09-2013, 08:33 PM)Sagittarius Wrote: So I have been poring through psychology/philosophy books for the last few weeks and suddenly got the urge to learn some physics or at least the basic concepts behind it.
I have always been a bit handicapped in math but I suspect this is more so to my complete disinterest in it for the majority of my life rather then a propensity to be bad at it. A few books I have read where tying in quantum physics with psychology or theorizing about it and I actually found myself genuinely interested in math/physics for the first time or better yet had confidence I understood the concepts as much as is possible with no math/physics learning.
Anyone have any good starter books? I just ordered physics for dummies.
what High School maths did you do? 2 Unit? do they even have that anymore lol.
are there some bridging courses you can take at uni? not for the expectation of doing university maths, but the bridging courses might be useful in themselves.
of course, self study and self discipline is always a good path, but its nice to nice peers to work things out with.
I did physics for 2 years at highschool but only ever did the easiest Maths which was called Maths A.
The thought of taking a math/physics class as an elective popped into my head the other day. Hopefully I'am able, guess I will see when I'am picking my classes. Still I seam to have pulled some self motivation out of my ass to try and learn it on my own. My mum couldn't believe her eyes when she sore me practicing algebra yesterday on a sheet of paper.