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Blue Sky on Mars - Ashim - 03-17-2013
Just found this on a german MSM news site (focus.de)
The picture from curiosity shows Mt. Sharp with a nice baby blue sky.
Either someone slipped up in the photoshop department or they are allowing these images to filter through.
Very interesting!
http://www.focus.de/wissen/diverses/raumfahrt-curiosity-liefert-mosaikfoto-von-berg-auf-dem-mars_aid_941657.html
![[Image: 1363523232_jpeg-1484E00056C1D34F-2013031..._630xA.jpg]](http://p4.focus.de/img/gen/6/3/1363523232_jpeg-1484E00056C1D34F-20130316-img_41099372_2452925_2_dpa_Pxgen_r_630xA.jpg)
This is supposed to be the original data, or how we would see the scene before white balancing.
Still blue-ish.
http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/734412main_pia16769-43_946-710.jpg
Now compare to this pathfinder image taken at noon.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7c/Mars_sky_at_noon_PIA01546.jpg/799px-Mars_sky_at_noon_PIA01546.jpg
RE: Blue Sky on Mars - zenmaster - 03-17-2013
(03-17-2013, 08:41 AM)Ashim Wrote: The picture from curiosity shows Mt. Sharp with a nice baby blue sky.Whenever you see the blue sky on Mars, it's because they purposely changed the white balance to be earth-like. This allows geologists to more readily recognize details in the rocks.
Either someone slipped up in the photoshop department or they are allowing these images to filter through.
RE: Blue Sky on Mars - Ashim - 03-17-2013
(03-17-2013, 12:11 PM)zenmaster Wrote:......or to slowly introduce the public to the truth.(03-17-2013, 08:41 AM)Ashim Wrote: The picture from curiosity shows Mt. Sharp with a nice baby blue sky.Whenever you see the blue sky on Mars, it's because they purposely changed the white balance to be earth-like. This allows geologists to more readily recognize details in the rocks.
Either someone slipped up in the photoshop department or they are allowing these images to filter through.
How come NASA were talking about expecting blue skies at the start of the pathfinder mission?
From their own press release, not my idea and not a crummy youtube video or internet 'fantasy'.
"If dust diffuses to the landing site, the sky could turn out to be pink like that seen by Viking," says Philip James of the University of Toledo.
"Otherwise, Pathfinder will likely show blue sky with bright clouds."
The source.
ftp://ftp.hq.nasa.gov/pub/pao/pressrel/1997/97-148.txt
Edit to add this screenshot of the control center. Take a look a the monitor displaying the landscape (left in picture).
Did they colour correct that too?
![[Image: curiosity-press-video1.jpg]](https://dl.dropbox.com/u/36469501/PHOTOS/Curiosity%20photos/curiosity-press-video1.jpg)
RE: Blue Sky on Mars - zenmaster - 03-17-2013
(03-17-2013, 02:51 PM)Ashim Wrote:That there is not enough molecular absorption on Mars to render the surface "red"? Have fun with your fantasies.(03-17-2013, 12:11 PM)zenmaster Wrote:......or to slowly introduce the public to the truth.(03-17-2013, 08:41 AM)Ashim Wrote: The picture from curiosity shows Mt. Sharp with a nice baby blue sky.Whenever you see the blue sky on Mars, it's because they purposely changed the white balance to be earth-like. This allows geologists to more readily recognize details in the rocks.
Either someone slipped up in the photoshop department or they are allowing these images to filter through.
RE: Blue Sky on Mars - Ashim - 03-18-2013
(03-17-2013, 08:04 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(03-17-2013, 02:51 PM)Ashim Wrote:That there is not enough molecular absorption on Mars to render the surface "red"? Have fun with your fantasies.(03-17-2013, 12:11 PM)zenmaster Wrote:......or to slowly introduce the public to the truth.(03-17-2013, 08:41 AM)Ashim Wrote: The picture from curiosity shows Mt. Sharp with a nice baby blue sky.Whenever you see the blue sky on Mars, it's because they purposely changed the white balance to be earth-like. This allows geologists to more readily recognize details in the rocks.
Either someone slipped up in the photoshop department or they are allowing these images to filter through.
Again zen why did NASA say that they were expecting blue skies in this official press release?
.
ftp://ftp.hq.nasa.gov/pub/pao/pressrel/1997/97-148.txt
RE: Blue Sky on Mars - zenmaster - 03-18-2013
(03-18-2013, 01:34 AM)Ashim Wrote:Well, an astronomer by the name of professor Philip James was quoted as saying that. We can simply ask him directly, if he is still around (cue dramatic music, suggesting conspiracy).(03-17-2013, 08:04 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(03-17-2013, 02:51 PM)Ashim Wrote:That there is not enough molecular absorption on Mars to render the surface "red"? Have fun with your fantasies.(03-17-2013, 12:11 PM)zenmaster Wrote:......or to slowly introduce the public to the truth.(03-17-2013, 08:41 AM)Ashim Wrote: The picture from curiosity shows Mt. Sharp with a nice baby blue sky.Whenever you see the blue sky on Mars, it's because they purposely changed the white balance to be earth-like. This allows geologists to more readily recognize details in the rocks.
Either someone slipped up in the photoshop department or they are allowing these images to filter through.
Again zen why did NASA say that they were expecting blue skies in this official press release?
.
ftp://ftp.hq.nasa.gov/pub/pao/pressrel/1997/97-148.txt
RE: Blue Sky on Mars - Ashim - 03-19-2013
Quote: Well, an astronomer by the name of professor Philip James was quoted as saying that. We can simply ask him directly, if he is still around (cue dramatic music, suggesting conspiracy).
No need for the music zen.
I just asked him and will provide the response if he is forthcoming.
His e-mail at the university of Toledo:
pbj@physics.utoledo.edu
RE: Blue Sky on Mars - reeay - 03-19-2013
Quote:If the Martian atmosphere were free of dust, the daytime sky would appear blue, because of Rayleigh scattering by the molecules (primarily carbon dioxide) that make up the atmosphere. Because the atmosphere is thinner than earth’s atmosphere, the Martian sky would be a darker blue than ours, much as the sky on earth appears at high altitudes with a similar density of air molecules. It is possible (though unlikely) that future missions to Mars will find a different sky color.
http://www.webexhibits.org/causesofcolor/14C.html
Didn't NASA have some mission to Mars in the 70s? They would probably have known how the coloring of the sky worked, no?
http://youtu.be/plWnm7UpsXk
RE: Blue Sky on Mars - Ashim - 03-19-2013
It appears that the original viking images from the 70's were manipulated.
Could this have been to hide obvious signs of biological life on the martian surface?
http://rense.com/general9/color.htm
RE: Blue Sky on Mars - zenmaster - 03-19-2013
(03-19-2013, 01:37 AM)Ashim Wrote: His e-mail at the university of Toledo:Already tried that contact address and don't think it's functional. Not surprising, considering the spam bots using it as well. If he got his PhD nearly 45 years ago, he's been retired and possibly moved on to other interests.
pbj@physics.utoledo.edu
RE: Blue Sky on Mars - Ashim - 03-19-2013
(03-19-2013, 08:44 AM)zenmaster Wrote:Maybe he's on Mars working for Solar Warden.(03-19-2013, 01:37 AM)Ashim Wrote: His e-mail at the university of Toledo:Already tried that contact address and don't think it's functional. Not surprising, considering the spam bots using it as well. If he got his PhD nearly 45 years ago, he's been retired and possibly moved on to other interests.
pbj@physics.utoledo.edu