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The Illusion of having 'made it' - Plenum - 05-23-2013
it's great when you make a personal breakthrough. It's one of the best feelings in the world.
but that 'feeling awesome' state maybe lasts half a day, or at best, a day or two, and then the next piece of personal work comes up.
I think Lynn said it best a long time ago; once you clear mental space for yourself through some self-understanding, your Higher Self then hands to you the next pile of dirty laundry that needs to be cleaned up; some memory or experience from the past that has not been integrated and accepted.
Ra says there are 7 sublevels to each chakra (and also further subdivisions). In my experience, a 'big personal breakthrough' would consist of clearing one of these '7 sublevels', and so there would be 49 of these in total. And that's just One Big Breakthrough, which can take a long long time to come to realise.
so the process is never over. It feels so fantastic when you clear a personal imbalance that you have had for maybe years (or maybe even your whole life! going back to some early distorted experiences), but the Work just continues.
it is all so wonderful to experience those 'respite periods' following a breakthrough. Like I said, you feel unburdened of something that has been plaguing you for so long; its like taking a shower after years and washing away that grime and smell finally : d But that 'clean period' just lasts a little while.
and the work goes on; the next imbalance calls for attention.
Quote:40.4 Hypothetically speaking, this is correct. However, the fully activated being is rare. Much emphasis is laid upon the harmonies and balances of individuals. It is necessary for graduation across densities for the primary energy centers to be functioning in such a way as to communicate with intelligent infinity and to appreciate and bask in this light in all of its purity. However, to fully activate each energy center is the mastery of few, for each center has a variable speed of rotation or activity. The important observation to be made once all necessary centers are activated to the minimal necessary degree is the harmony and balance between these energy centers.
but even though you go back to doing the 'Work'; the general level of consciousness and awareness has been lifted after each clearance or balancing or self-understanding.
The Baseline of Consciousness has shifted up a notch.
but yeah, you never reach that point when there is 'nothing more to do', and when one can relax in eternal bliss. That state is reserved for the afterlife
plenum
RE: The Illusion of having 'made it' - Brittany - 05-23-2013
In my current experience, happiness comes not from overcoming all challenges, but from being able to appreciate the challenges as opportunities and face them joyfully in faith and love; to honor one's own being at all stages of development, seeing the beauty of a soul knowing itself instead of attempting to force the identity into a preferred configuration. Natural food always tastes better than the processed stuff, and it's the same way with soul growth. Easier to savor if allowed to progress naturally.
RE: The Illusion of having 'made it' - Ashim - 05-23-2013
Quote:but yeah, you never reach that point when there is 'nothing more to do', and when one can relax in eternal bliss. That state is reserved for the afterlife Big Grin
Why do you claim to be such an authority on this plenum?
You post makes no sense although I can understand where you are coming from.
Ra said "..to fully activate each energy center is the mastery of FEW"
You used this quote.
Then you say "..you NEVER reach that point".
A few is a number, maybe not a large one in respect of our population but it is a real amount, not none.
If there are masters here, incarnate at this time then I would suggest that the 'few' would perhaps be here, right on this forum.
Where else would a dedicated student of the Law of One hang out?
Saying stuff like "That state is reserved for the afterlife." is untrue.
Don't go telling folks " You NEVER" because YOU don't really know that do you?
RE: The Illusion of having 'made it' - Plenum - 05-23-2013
what I wrote is just my personal opinion, nothing more Ashim.
I by no means wished to challenge your beliefs on this.
and as you have pointed out, there are many misunderstandings in what I tried to convey; so please excuse my current ineptitudes
plenum
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oh, and I realise I might have insulted you without the intention of doing so.
are you one of those 'few' that have fully activated each energy center?
RE: The Illusion of having 'made it' - xise - 05-23-2013
Looks like someone just got another load of laundry!!
RE: The Illusion of having 'made it' - Ashim - 05-23-2013
(05-23-2013, 04:44 PM)plenum Wrote: what I wrote is just my personal opinion, nothing more Ashim.
I by no means wished to challenge your beliefs on this.
and as you have pointed out, there are many misunderstandings in what I tried to convey; so please excuse my current ineptitudes
plenum
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oh, and I realise I might have insulted you without the intention of doing so.
are you one of those 'few' that have fully activated each energy center?
Of course you didn't insult me - that's my wifes job anyhow.
We were dancing together and I felt you trod on my foot for a second, that was all.
No, I have not fully activated every energy center, but I feel that there is light at the end of the tunnel.
I still have some yellow ray blockages regarding how I interact with society and how society sees me, etc.
I do really believe that more than just a few of us can reach this goal whilst in the physical.
Thanks for your reply and much love to you.
RE: The Illusion of having 'made it' - Plenum - 05-23-2013
no probs Ash; it's all good.
and I know I probably come across as a 'know-it-all' at times; when in truth, the reality is probably closer to me being a 'know-a-nothing'.
cheers mate
RE: The Illusion of having 'made it' - Brittany - 05-23-2013
Perhaps we should get some sort of laundromat going lol.
In places like this, you never know when you're going to open up the dryer and find someone else's underwear in there. :p
RE: The Illusion of having 'made it' - Spaced - 05-23-2013
Sometimes I feel like Atlas carrying a giant laundry basket instead of a globe. I just got a fresh pile recently as well. I think I've got my work cut out for me.
Even in my dreams I am often lugging around a laundry bin. Real subtle imagery from my higher self
RE: The Illusion of having 'made it' - Unbound - 05-23-2013
Find the sides of the mountain and you are lead to the peak. From the peak is caught the sight of the next horizon, the next peak. The peak must be decended from before a higher peak may be reached.
RE: The Illusion of having 'made it' - Hototo - 05-24-2013
You dont have to descend and rise every life. You can ascend during life then descend during death in a few seconds and then spend a whole life ascended again.
Just because time is an illusion and that you have to eventually come down doesnt mean:
1. That the time you come down is in the same body complex.
2. That you will remember coming down as it can happen in a microsecond.
Edit: meaning that you can remain in a state/emotion of having "made it" for your entire life if you want, and it can be justified. After all, you made it into being alive for one.
RE: The Illusion of having 'made it' - Marc - 05-24-2013
Ahh... The nature of the illusion is as you believe it to be.
RE: The Illusion of having 'made it' - Unbound - 05-24-2013
Isn't an illusion a creation of our own perceptions which is implied upon our reality as we experience it?
RE: The Illusion of having 'made it' - Marc - 05-25-2013
Yes, but aren't all things?
Also, the 'illusion' I was referring to was The Grand Illusion of All Things.
RE: The Illusion of having 'made it' - Unbound - 05-25-2013
There must be some reality there to experience as an illusion, which suggests to me that there is an objective existence beyond our subjective, illusory experiences. Are "all things" really an illusion? Or is that just another illusion?
The deepest esoteric truth I know is "everything is real", all principles exist as actualities.
RE: The Illusion of having 'made it' - Marc - 05-25-2013
Yes, the illusion is real. Hah!
Nothing does not exist.
RE: The Illusion of having 'made it' - AnthroHeart - 09-08-2013
When a being reaches the point where all their chakras are activated and balanced I believe is the point when they open up to intelligent infinity. This would be my preferred way of departure from this illusion. One can then choose the method of leaving this incarnation. That's what I had been striving for, but my chakras aren't all activated to their fullest potential.
RE: The Illusion of having 'made it' - GentleReckoning - 09-08-2013
Posting in this thread, because I'm on my achievement high. Gonna try and ride this. If my motivation level stays up after this I'll be plenty happy.
RE: The Illusion of having 'made it' - Turtle - 09-09-2013
My energy centers can beat up your energy centers...
lol.
RE: The Illusion of having 'made it' - Sagittarius - 09-09-2013
It's annoying even if I expect and appreciate it now. Had a "breakthrough" on friday and felt good all saturday. Felt average/indifferent on sunday and then today I woke up in complete stagnation. Don't know where all my motivation went in the space of 2 days but yeh today has been hard. Doesn't help that I should be working on assignments today.
This process is really making me consider how I define effort. When in a positive state effort is attained effortlessly, when in a negative mood effort is painfully forced. When I force the effort in a negative state the work being produced is always sub-par and feels like I'am just wasting time I could be using to rest and revert back into a better state.
RE: The Illusion of having 'made it' - Turtle - 09-09-2013
(09-09-2013, 09:36 PM)Sagittarius Wrote: This process is really making me consider how I define effort. When in a positive state effort is attained effortlessly, when in a negative mood effort is painfully forced. When I force the effort in a negative state the work being produced is always sub-par and feels like I'am just wasting time I could be using to rest and revert back into a better state.
You are so close to solving that little problem of yours that it makes me smile a bit.
When next you find yourself in a negative state, attempting to use effort to accomplish something, instead find ways to remind yourself that it is the positive state you need to return to FIRST, and THEN go back to expending your energy on whatever it is that needs to be done.
This does not need to take much time either. You just need to find the simplest and easiest way that works for you personally to get back into a positive state....learn to catch yourself before you start forcing actions when in a negative state.
That is all...and have fun with the process!
RE: The Illusion of having 'made it' - Sagittarius - 09-09-2013
(09-09-2013, 09:59 PM)Turtle Wrote:(09-09-2013, 09:36 PM)Sagittarius Wrote: This process is really making me consider how I define effort. When in a positive state effort is attained effortlessly, when in a negative mood effort is painfully forced. When I force the effort in a negative state the work being produced is always sub-par and feels like I'am just wasting time I could be using to rest and revert back into a better state.
You are so close to solving that little problem of yours that it makes me smile a bit.
When next you find yourself in a negative state, attempting to use effort to accomplish something, instead find ways to remind yourself that it is the positive state you need to return to FIRST, and THEN go back to expending your energy on whatever it is that needs to be done.
This does not need to take much time either. You just need to find the simplest and easiest way that works for you personally to get back into a positive state....learn to catch yourself before you start forcing actions when in a negative state.
That is all...and have fun with the process!
Yeh easier said then done hehe.
The more positive you get the more negative states can affect you, as you refine your focus the negative side of that also get's refined and focused, exactly as Ra said.
The more positive I become the less I can hide behind when these negative states hit. Things I would run to in the past to hide behind don't work anymore.
You truly do begin to see the only way to heal is through acceptance of universal love. It's the only truth that can never be wrong.
RE: The Illusion of having 'made it' - Turtle - 09-09-2013
(09-09-2013, 10:21 PM)Sagittarius Wrote: The more positive you get the more negative states can affect you
So? Start enjoying the negative states. Recognize that they are just "unwanted" by you because you prefer to feel positive states. But just because the negative states and moods are "unwanted" by you, does not mean they cannot be used safely, and with respect to other's free will....the most classic example of using a negative state in a fun and positive way that I can think of (especially being a man) is venting that energy through beating the hell out of a punching bag. Fully imagining that you're completely destroying another human's body with hate and rage, the one that pisses you off. FULLY IMAGINING IT WHILE BEATING THE HELL OUT OF THAT BAG....what...sounds a little devious to you? You know better...
That 1st density material cares nothing about your manly might. You hands may be sore after the fact. But best of all, you will be balanced again, and will most likely be surprised by how fun it is to use dark and negative states in a way that harms no one, not even yourself (so long as you have decent punching technique while in the middle of a rage, lol. Doable, so don't fret about that.)
Chew on that a bit...how does it taste?
RE: The Illusion of having 'made it' - Sagittarius - 09-10-2013
(09-09-2013, 10:33 PM)Turtle Wrote:(09-09-2013, 10:21 PM)Sagittarius Wrote: The more positive you get the more negative states can affect you
So? Start enjoying the negative states. Recognize that they are just "unwanted" by you because you prefer to feel positive states. But just because the negative states and moods are "unwanted" by you, does not mean they cannot be used safely, and with respect to other's free will....the most classic example of using a negative state in a fun and positive way that I can think of (especially being a man) is venting that energy through beating the hell out of a punching bag. Fully imagining that you're completely destroying another human's body with hate and rage, the one that pisses you off. FULLY IMAGINING IT WHILE BEATING THE HELL OUT OF THAT BAG....what...sounds a little devious to you? You know better...
That 1st density material cares nothing about your manly might. You hands may be sore after the fact. But best of all, you will be balanced again, and will most likely be surprised by how fun it is to use dark and negative states in a way that harms no one, not even yourself (so long as you have decent punching technique while in the middle of a rage, lol. Doable, so don't fret about that.)
Chew on that a bit...how does it taste?
Yeh that's great advice, pretty much what I have been doing or how I have come to see it. My ability to keep positive is just an automatic reaction now, after being conscious through so many cycles of positive and the reciprocal negative state I have identified the key areas of myself that are most prone to negative manipulation.
It allows you as you say to be positive about the negative.
I turned the state around today quite easily, I rarely stay negative for more then a day anymore. My negative side is running out of small rounds and has to resort to nukes. I can feel it getting worried hehe like it's going to have no influence on me at all eventually in this lifetime of mine.