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36.18 6th D negative. Thoughts on this. - Hototo - 06-27-2013
36.18 Questioner: Are there any examples of sixth-density negatively polarized Wanderers in our historical past?
Ra: I am Ra. This information could be harmful. We withhold it. Please attempt to view the entities about you as part of the Creator. We can explain no further.
I have a simple thought about this and what it was/is. Though I am very VERY hesitant to say so on account of understanding what Ra means by "might be harmful". Though I am tempted to discuss the possibility of this being so. However I realize that if I am right it would be a tremendous infringement to say what I observe in relation to this, "out loud."
So. Thoughts. What should one do in a situation like this? Do you agree with Ra withholding?
RE: 36.18 6th D negative. Thoughts on this. - ChickenInSpace - 06-27-2013
Since you're incarnated, it should be fine. Anything disclosed during incarnation is more often than not considered 'legit' compared to the undiluted view of a discarnate entity.
RE: 36.18 6th D negative. Thoughts on this. - Hototo - 06-27-2013
See I tend to agree, when thinking in conventional physical terms but I'm, as my namesake states, Not Sure if it applies here...
RE: 36.18 6th D negative. Thoughts on this. - AnthroHeart - 06-27-2013
I agree Chicken. I don't think we behind the veil can violate the Law of Confusion or Law of Free Will.
Unless people like Buddha had secrets of the Universe that they couldn't share.
RE: 36.18 6th D negative. Thoughts on this. - Ashim - 06-27-2013
(06-27-2013, 08:50 AM)Not Sure Wrote: 36.18 Questioner: Are there any examples of sixth-density negatively polarized Wanderers in our historical past?
Ra: I am Ra. This information could be harmful. We withhold it. Please attempt to view the entities about you as part of the Creator. We can explain no further.
I have a simple thought about this and what it was/is. Though I am very VERY hesitant to say so on account of understanding what Ra means by "might be harmful". Though I am tempted to discuss the possibility of this being so. However I realize that if I am right it would be a tremendous infringement to say what I observe in relation to this, "out loud."
So. Thoughts. What should one do in a situation like this? Do you agree with Ra withholding?
Maybe this has something to do with that quote.
Quote:69.12 Questioner: Is it possible to tell me roughly how many Wanderers that have come to this planet within this master cycle have experienced this displacement into a negative time/space? Just wondering if there have been many.
Ra: I am Ra. We can note the number of such occurrences. There has been only one. We cannot, due to the Law of Confusion, discuss the entity.
Or this.....
Quote:Ra: I am Ra. Once the negatively polarized entity has reached a certain point in the wisdom density it becomes extremely unlikely that it will choose to risk the forgetting, for this polarization is not selfless but selfish and with wisdom realizes the jeopardy of such “wandering.” Occasionally a sixth-density negative entity becomes a Wanderer in an effort to continue to polarize towards the negative. This is extremely unusual.
RE: 36.18 6th D negative. Thoughts on this. - AnthroHeart - 06-27-2013
A sixth density negative wanderer I'm sure chooses a life where they have riches and comforts, to make it easier to polarize to the negative further. They are most likely leaders of some sort.
RE: 36.18 6th D negative. Thoughts on this. - Ashim - 06-27-2013
(06-27-2013, 10:34 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: A sixth density negative wanderer I'm sure chooses a life where they have riches and comforts, to make it easier to polarize to the negative further. They are most likely leaders of some sort.
They more likely choose an early life experience of torture, pain and hardship in order to 'remind' themselves of their polarity and 'life plan'.
Adolf's father repeatedly beat him senseless as a child, as I recall.
There must be experience of extreme hate in order to foster more of the same.
I doubt that 'having a nice life' is the intention of any 6th density entity as it fully understands the growth potential of the 3d experience.
RE: 36.18 6th D negative. Thoughts on this. - Hototo - 06-27-2013
*laughs* circular reasoning is circular reasoning.
RE: 36.18 6th D negative. Thoughts on this. - Ashim - 06-27-2013
If you are familiar with the methods employed by 'The Family' regarding children then you will understand this better.
It's possible to switch polarity in time/space, from negative to positive, but the lessons have to be retraced in 3rd density incarnation.
That's why many folks are subjected to an upbringing that most would consider 'evil' or cruel.
RE: 36.18 6th D negative. Thoughts on this. - AnthroHeart - 06-27-2013
I've had a relatively easy life, except for a few hiccups, and I like it that way.
I must have programmed a life of relatively nothing much happening in order to make up for past karma or hard life.
Well, my schizophrenia hasn't made life too easy, but it's manageable. Aside from the mind numbing terror I've sometimes faced mentally.
Good points there Ashim. That's why I'm probably not a 6D wanderer, because my life hasn't been hard.
I don't suffer with too bad allergies or health condition, except for high cholesterol and blood pressure.
Stuff I'm not too worried about. Just eat healthier and work out more.
But funny thing is, even though I'm doing this healthy stuff, I'm not looking to prolong my life.
It will end when it ends, and it will all be good.
My life review will be interesting, because I feel I have hurt others more than they've hurt me.
RE: 36.18 6th D negative. Thoughts on this. - Ashim - 06-27-2013
(06-27-2013, 10:59 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I've had a relatively easy life, except for a few hiccups, and I like it that way.
I must have programmed a life of relatively nothing much happening in order to make up for past karma or hard life.
Well, my schizophrenia hasn't made life too easy, but it's manageable. Aside from the mind numbing terror I've sometimes faced mentally.
Good points there Ashim. That's why I'm probably not a 6D wanderer, because my life hasn't been hard.
I don't suffer with too bad allergies or health condition, except for high cholesterol and blood pressure.
Stuff I'm not too worried about. Just eat healthier and work out more.
But funny thing is, even though I'm doing this healthy stuff, I'm not looking to prolong my life.
It will end when it ends, and it will all be good.
My life review will be interesting, because I feel I have hurt others more than they've hurt me.
You had a "relatively easy life" with some "mind numbing terror"?
Sounds like a little contradiction to me.
How come you think that your 'life' is going to end?
As I understand it, Harvest is the opportunity to experience a seamless flow from 3rd density 'life' into higher realms and beyond.
Of course if you life plan calls for 'death' then so be it.
Unless of course, you change the plan.
RE: 36.18 6th D negative. Thoughts on this. - AnthroHeart - 06-27-2013
Perhaps I programmed some inconveniences into this life, such as my mental disorders, to balance
out the relatively easy life I had otherwise.
Hey, if I could make harvest and not die, that would be great. I'd rather have that.
I was under the impression I would have to die to experience 4D.
I'd change the plan if I could. If I knew what my plan was.
I just know I'm here to broadcast love.
Sorry for the contradiction earlier.
It's so easy for me to get flustered when things don't go my way. So there's room for growth.
This is all fascintating discussion. The harvest has always been near and dear to me.
Now I'm just curious how to expedite the transition into higher densities.
So the ascension IS real?
RE: 36.18 6th D negative. Thoughts on this. - Ashim - 06-27-2013
(06-27-2013, 11:14 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Perhaps I programmed some inconveniences into this life, such as my mental disorders, to balance
out the relatively easy life I had otherwise.
Hey, if I could make harvest and not die, that would be great. I'd rather have that.
I was under the impression I would have to die to experience 4D.
I'd change the plan if I could. If I knew what my plan was.
I just know I'm here to broadcast love.
Sorry for the contradiction earlier.
It's so easy for me to get flustered when things don't go my way. So there's room for growth.
This is all fascintating discussion. The harvest has always been near and dear to me.
Now I'm just curious how to expedite the transition into higher densities.
So the ascension IS real?
The question is....
....can you face all of the 's***' that you have caused?
Can you really face up to who you are and what you have done?
I know, these are big questions, ones that most folks only answer after their 'post death life review'.
There is stuff that is quite horrible, things that may cause you discomfort when you remember them.
If you really want then it is possible to dissolve this karma now.
This is what Harvest is. A chance to rid yourself of excess baggage before embarking on a wonderful voyage.
All you need do is express this intent. So it shall be.
If you don't feel like it then that's ok. You will not be judged by anyone other than yourself.
RE: 36.18 6th D negative. Thoughts on this. - AnthroHeart - 06-27-2013
I'll face my karma. I want to deal with it.
It's easy to say that I've been a relatively good guy in my life,
but if I had happen to me what I've dished out to others, particularly animals,
I'd proabably be in a world of hurt.
I'll accept my karma. I want to move forward.
My mom often gets upset at me, and I am not sure if that's my doing. She gets upset at the way I live.
I am not sure if I am incurring karma based on how others view me.
I want to rid myself of excess baggage.
RE: 36.18 6th D negative. Thoughts on this. - Ashim - 06-27-2013
(06-27-2013, 11:48 AM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I'll face my karma. I want to deal with it.
It's easy to say that I've been a relatively good guy in my life,
but if I had happen to me what I've dished out to others, particularly animals,
I'd proabably be in a world of hurt.
I'll accept my karma. I want to move forward.
My mom often gets upset at me, and I am not sure if that's my doing. She gets upset at the way I live.
I am not sure if I am incurring karma based on how others view me.
I want to rid myself of excess baggage.
You are a brave Soul. That's why you came here.
Don't forget that.
We are the bravest of the brave.
RE: 36.18 6th D negative. Thoughts on this. - AnthroHeart - 06-27-2013
We all risked the forgetting, but we remembered.
There's something to be said about that.
When I had a larger perspective I probably realized how brave I was.
Here, I am comfortable, and don't really feel brave.
But it must have been truly something to know that I risked forgetting.
Now that I've remembered, I am truly free.
Thank you Ashim for the words of comfort. I sometimes want to save your words and post them on the wall.
RE: 36.18 6th D negative. Thoughts on this. - Guardian - 06-27-2013
This is clearly talking about the lucifer social memory complex hidden hand discusses.
RE: 36.18 6th D negative. Thoughts on this. - native - 06-28-2013
This is occasionally brought up on here. There could be several reasons. Here's something to think about..if wanderers are those who come here to recapitulate a lesson that is less than perfect, wouldn't it make sense that those who were formerly negative and switched to positive, be the ones who would most benefit from wandering? In that light, wouldn't it be highly ironic given that so much negativity is directed towards the "elites", when you yourself possibly conquered and dominated planets? It's silly to direct so much hate towards "them"; they're you anyway.
I imagine another reason is that we don't understand this illusion as much as we think we do, and so a name might alter our perceptions too much. I should say the above may not necessarily be the case, but it's worth considering for the purposes of balance.
RE: 36.18 6th D negative. Thoughts on this. - Philosoraptor - 06-29-2013
(06-27-2013, 10:44 AM)Ashim Wrote: Adolf's father repeatedly beat him senseless as a child, as I recall.
Where you there to witness this?