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Paradoxical Calls for Service - Plenum - 09-14-2013 in this passage here Don is asking about the 'many voices of the Creator' and how if all things are the Creator, and they are all requesting different types of service, how do we go about navigating this sea of requests? for eg, some parts of humanity want to hear this information, others do not, and others want to actively cease (suppress or squash) it. How then to decide our actions? Ra goes quite eloquent in their answer saying that basically we can only serve in the way that aligns best with the totality of our beingness (as best we can understand this totality) and that the biases of many thousands of lifetimes and choices will inform the perspectives of our actions and choices. In the end, it seems, you can only be true to your understandings as best as they have been accumulated as full glimpses of the Creator. those with more limited viewpoints will serve in such and such a way; those with more expanded viewpoints will see the greater totality. Each offers their service to the One Creator in the way they can 'see' it. ie the limit of the viewpoint determines the level of service because the limit of the viewpoint is the point of perspective. peace - - Quote:67.11 Ra: I am Ra. - - it is a deep and moving speech. namaste plenum RE: Paradoxical Calls for Service - βαθμιαίος - 09-14-2013 (09-14-2013, 10:31 AM)plenum Wrote: it is a deep and moving speech. I agree. To toot my own project's horn a little: this is one of the answers that was most improved by relistening: http://www.lawofone.info/show-diff.php?s=67&dv=o-e-ao#11 RE: Paradoxical Calls for Service - Adonai One - 09-14-2013 In infinite dissonance there is infinite peace. RE: Paradoxical Calls for Service - zenmaster - 09-14-2013 How do you interpret "your experience and offering of experience, to be valuable, needs be more and more a perfect representation of who you truly are". Does it mean that value increases as authenticity increases? Or does it mean that value is only derived from an approach which seeks authenticity? RE: Paradoxical Calls for Service - Adonai One - 09-14-2013 When one is united with (or in control of) the self, polarization and power increases. I interpret this as "authenticity." I think the answer is clearly the former. As for the latter, I don't believe there is an objective approach. RE: Paradoxical Calls for Service - zenmaster - 09-14-2013 What do you mean by objective approach and why would there need to be an objective approach? RE: Paradoxical Calls for Service - Adonai One - 09-14-2013 (09-14-2013, 11:32 AM)zenmaster Wrote: What do you mean by objective approach and why would there need to be an objective approach? There is no single way, which you seem to recognize. We approach authenticity in every moment as we try to acheive our desires and vice-versa. Once we unite/harmonize/embrace or control/fight/resist our way to our genuinely desired ends, authenticity is acheived. RE: Paradoxical Calls for Service - Diana - 09-14-2013 (09-14-2013, 11:07 AM)zenmaster Wrote: How do you interpret "your experience and offering of experience, to be valuable, needs be more and more a perfect representation of who you truly are". Does it mean that value increases as authenticity increases? Or does it mean that value is only derived from an approach which seeks authenticity? This was my favorite part of the above excerpt. I think the above bolded is closer to the mark. My interpretation of these words: The value of authenticity is first to the evolution of self, and what follows naturally is the effect of this authenticity--which must excite more movement or vibration or resonance because it involves no denial or resistance to what is in self--to the evolution of all. This is a linear way to describe an aspect of what must be a continually changing soup of consciousness in flux and expansion. RE: Paradoxical Calls for Service - AnthroHeart - 09-14-2013 I like the Law of One, because it is one of the few, if not the only philosophy where you don't have to take action to be of service. RE: Paradoxical Calls for Service - zenmaster - 09-14-2013 (09-14-2013, 11:38 AM)Adonai One Wrote:(09-14-2013, 11:32 AM)zenmaster Wrote: What do you mean by objective approach and why would there need to be an objective approach? If there was a single way, then how would be able to contribute anything at all? (09-14-2013, 11:38 AM)Adonai One Wrote: We approach authenticity in every moment as we try to acheive our desires and vice-versa. Once we unite/harmonize/embrace or control/fight/resist our way to our genuinely desired ends, authenticity is acheived.I don't think there is an end? This is mainly due to our "genuine" desires being transient and replaced by more "genuine" desires. (09-14-2013, 11:48 AM)Diana Wrote:The thing is, that at any point in one's "purity" there is something which the seeking itself offers for others, as far as that point of experience. If you evolve past that point, there may not be recognition for another and therefore less value.(09-14-2013, 11:07 AM)zenmaster Wrote: How do you interpret "your experience and offering of experience, to be valuable, needs be more and more a perfect representation of who you truly are". Does it mean that value increases as authenticity increases? Or does it mean that value is only derived from an approach which seeks authenticity? |