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What the Fukushima? - neutral333 - 03-03-2014
I recently put a powerpoint presentation together called "The Zen understanding of disaster: shining a light on Fukushima". While researching, I found tons of shocking news almost none of which has been reported in the mainstream mass media (mutations, huge leaks within the last 2 weeks, cover-ups, etc.)
I remember Ra talking about the effects of atomic weapons on the body/soul. Anyone know how radiation affects us spiritually?
RE: What the Fukushima? - Parsons - 03-04-2014
The only thing the Ra material mentions related to radiation was the disintegration of a M/B/S complex by a direct nuclear(crystal weapon) blast. That's a good question... I am merely speculating, but I doubt encountering radiation outside of a nuclear blast would affect us spiritually.
RE: What the Fukushima? - Rusalka - 03-04-2014
Interesting topic... I've always been wondering why the spiritual effect on the MBS of the Hiroshima bombs... Why is being blasted with a nuclear bomb different than any other violent/ sudden death?
RE: What the Fukushima? - Guardian - 03-04-2014
The effect of the close proximity nuclear bomb most likely has an interdimensional impact allowing disintegration of the spirit.
RE: What the Fukushima? - ChickenInSpace - 03-04-2014
I guess the explosion is just as terrible in time/space as in space/time. Being anchored through a body into linear or altered time in close proximity to the explosion would then be very, very sad.
RE: What the Fukushima? - neutral333 - 03-04-2014
Here is all of the material about "nuclear" energy:
26.27 Questioner: When the healing process is complete with these entities, will this experience of the death due to the nuclear bomb cause them to be, shall we say, regressed in their climb toward the fourth density?
Ra: I am Ra. Such actions as nuclear destruction affect the entire planet. There are no differences at this level of destruction, and the planet will need to be healed.
38.2 Questioner: Thank you. Backtracking just a little bit today I would like to know if the reason the nuclear energy was brought into this density forty or so years ago had anything to do with giving the entities that were here who had caused the destruction of Maldek another chance to use nuclear energy peacefully rather than destructively? Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect in that it places cart before horse, as your people say. The desire for this type of information attracted this data to your people. It was not given for a reason from outside influences; rather it was desired by your peoples. From this point forward your reasoning is correct in that entities had desired the second chance which you mentioned.
38.3 Questioner: What was the mechanism of fulfilling the desire for the information regarding nuclear energy?
Ra: I am Ra. As we understand your query the mechanism was what you may call inspiration.
17.8 Questioner: Then was the Confederation responsible for Earth receiving nuclear power?
Ra: I am Ra. It is a point which one cannot judge. What is cause? The basic equation which preceded this work was an equation brought through by a Wanderer dedicated to service to the planet. That this work should have become foundation for instruments of destruction was not intended and was not given.
11.23 Questioner: Is this how we learned of nuclear energy? Was it mixed, both positive and negative orientation?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. The entities responsible for the gathering of the scientists were of a mixed orientation. The scientists were overwhelmingly positive in their orientation. The scientists who followed their work were of mixed orientation including one extremely negative entity, as you would term it.
9.19 Questioner: I didn’t understand what these vehicles or beings were for that were appropriate in the event of nuclear war.
Ra: I am Ra. These are beings which exist as instinctual second-density beings which are being held in reserve to form what you would call a gene pool in case these body complexes are needed. These body complexes are greatly able to withstand the rigors of radiation which the body complexes you now inhabit could not do.
26.28 Questioner: I was thinking specifically if an entity was in Hiroshima or Nagasaki at that time and he was reaching harvestability at the end of our cycle, would this death by nuclear bomb possibly create such trauma that he would not be able to be harvestable at the end of the cycle? That was specifically my question.
Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. Once the healing has taken place the harvest may go forth unimpeded. However, the entire planet will undergo healing for this action, no distinction being made betwixt victim and aggressor, this due to damage done to the planet.
26.21 Questioner: Then what you did, I am assuming, then, is to create an air of mystery with the UFO phenomena, as we call it, and then by telepathy send many messages that could be either accepted or rejected under the— following, of course, the Law of One so that the population would start thinking seriously about the consequences of what they were doing. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is partially correct. There are other services we may perform. Firstly, the integration of souls or spirits, if you will, in the event of use of these nuclear devices in your space/time continuum. This the Confederation has already done.
26.25 Questioner: But then, in general then you’re saying that if we— you will allow earth, the population of this planet to have a nuclear war and many deaths from that war, but you will be able to create a condition where these deaths will be no more traumatic, shall I say, with respect to entrance to the heaven world or astral world or whatever we call it than death by a bullet or normal means of dying of old age. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect. It would be more traumatic. However, the entity would remain an entity.
9.18 Questioner: Is there any particular race of people on our planet now who were incarnated here from second density?
Ra: I am Ra. There are no second-density consciousness complexes here on your sphere at this time. However, there are two races which use the second-density form. One is the entities of the planetary sphere you call Maldek. These entities are working their understanding complexes through a series of what you would call karmic restitutions. They dwell within your deeper underground passageways and are known to you as “Bigfoot.”
The other race is that being offered a dwelling in this density by guardians who wish to give the mind/body/spirit complexes of those who are of this density at this time appropriately engineered physical vehicles, as you would call these chemical complexes, in the event that there is what you call nuclear war.
68.12 Questioner: It would seem to me that since I can’t imagine anything anything worse, shall I say, than this particular result, other than possibly the total disintegration of the mind/body/spirit complex due to nuclear bomb, that it would be very advisable to seek out the magical training and defense for this situation. Could Ra and would Ra instruct in this type of magical defense?
Ra: I am Ra. This request lies beyond the first distortion. The entity seeking magical ability must do so in a certain manner. We may give instructions of a general nature. This we have already done. The instrument has begun the process of balancing the self. This is a lengthy process.
To take an entity before it is ready and offer it the scepter of magical power is to infringe in an unbalanced manner. We may suggest with some asperity that the instrument never call upon Ra in any way while unprotected by the configuration which is at this time present.
65.7 Questioner: How would conventional warfare offer the opportunities for seeking and service?
Ra: I am Ra. The possibility/probabilities exist for situations in which great portions of your continent and the globe in general might be involved in the type of warfare which you might liken to guerrilla warfare. The ideal of freedom from the so-called invading force of either the controlled fascism or the equally controlled social common ownership of all things would stimulate great quantities of contemplation upon the great polarization implicit in the contrast between freedom and control. In this scenario which is being considered at this time/space nexus the idea of obliterating valuable sites and personnel would not be considered an useful one. Other weapons would be used which do not destroy as your nuclear arms would. In this ongoing struggle the light of freedom would burn within the mind/body/spirit complexes capable of such polarization. Lacking the opportunity for overt expression of the love of freedom, the seeking for inner knowledge would take root aided by those of the Brothers and Sisters of Sorrow which remember their calling upon this sphere.
65.6 Questioner: Would the coming changes as we progress into fourth density— I’m speaking of changes not only in the physical third-density planet due to the heating effect but also the changes that are heralding fourth-density vibrations such as the ability of people to perform what we term paranormal activities— I’m assuming that both of these are also and will act as catalyst to create a greater seeking. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is partially correct. The paranormal events occurring are not designed to increase seeking but are manifestations of those whose vibratory configuration enables these entities to contact the gateway to intelligent infinity. These entities capable of paranormal service may determine to be of such service on a conscious level. This, however, is a function of the entity and its free will and not the paranormal ability.
The correct portion of your statements is the greater opportunity for service due to the many changes which will offer many challenges, difficulties, and seeming distresses within your illusion to many who then will seek to understand, if we may use this misnomer, the reason for the malfunctioning of the physical rhythms of their planet.
Moreover, there exist probability/possibility vortices which spiral towards your bellicose actions. Many of these vortices are not of the nuclear war but of the less annihilatory but more lengthy so-called “conventional” war. This situation, if formed in your illusion, would offer many opportunities for seeking and for service.
7.12 Questioner: I am interested in the application of the Law of One as it pertains to free will and what I would call the advertising done by UFO contact with the planet. That is, the Council has allowed the quarantine to be lifted many times over the past thirty years. This seems to me to be a form of advertising for what we are doing right now, so that more people will be awakened. Am I correct?
Ra: I am Ra. It will take a certain amount of untangling of conceptualization of your mental complex to reform your query into an appropriate response. Please bear with us.
The Council of Saturn has not allowed the breaking of quarantine in the time/space continuum you mentioned. There is a certain amount of landing taking place. Some of these landings are of your peoples. Some are of the entities known to you as the group of Orion.
Secondly, there is permission granted, not to break quarantine by dwelling among you, but to appear in thought-form capacity for those who have eyes to see.
Thirdly, you are correct in assuming that permission was granted at the time/space in which your first nuclear device was developed and used for Confederation members to minister unto your peoples in such a way as to cause mystery to occur. This is what you mean by advertising and is correct. The mystery and unknown quality of the occurrences we are allowed to offer have the hoped-for intention of making your peoples aware of infinite possibility. When your peoples grasp infinity, then and only then, can the gateway be opened to the Law of One.
24.4 Questioner: Thank you. The way I intend to continue with the book is to follow on through the last 25,000-year cycle that we’re in now and possibly investigate a little of fourth-density conditions and thereby find many places that we can go back and delve further into the Law of One. The first material I expect to be not too deep with respect to the Law of One. I hope to get into greater philosophical areas of the Law of One in more advanced sessions so as to make the material progress so that it will be understandable. I hope that I’m following the right direction in this.
In the last session you mentioned that during this last 25,000-year cycle the Atlanteans, Egyptians, and those in South America were contacted and then the Confederation departed. I understand the Confederation did not come back for some time. Could you tell me of the reasons, and consequences, and attitudes with respect to the next contact with those here on planet Earth?
Ra: I am Ra. In the case of the Atlanteans, enlargements upon the information given resulted in those activities distorted towards bellicosity which resulted in the final second Atlantean catastrophe one zero eight two one [10,821] of your years in the past, as you measure time.
Many, many were displaced due to societal actions both upon Atlantis and upon those areas of what you would call North African deserts to which some Atlanteans had gone after the first conflict. Earth changes continued due to these, what you would call, nuclear bombs and other crystal weapons, sinking the last great land masses approximately nine six zero zero [9,600] of your years ago.
In the Egyptian and the South American experiments results, though not as widely devastating, were as far from the original intention of the Confederation. It was clear to not only us but also to the Council and the Guardians that our methods were not appropriate for this particular sphere.
Our attitude thus was one of caution, observation, and continuing attempts to creatively discover methods whereby contact from our entities could be of service with the least distortion and above all with the least possibility of becoming perversions or antitheses of our intentions in sharing information.
RE: What the Fukushima? - Bring4th_Austin - 03-04-2014
Here's a couple important Ra quotes not already mentioned:
Quote:26.23 Questioner: Could you please give me an example from, let us say, Hiroshima or Nagasaki of how this is done?
Ra: I am Ra. Those who were destroyed, not by radiation, but by the trauma of the energy release, found not only the body/mind/spirit complex made unviable, but also a disarrangement of that unique vibratory complex you have called the spirit complex, which we understand as a mind/body/spirit complex, to be completely disarranged without possibility of re-integration. This would be the loss to the Creator of part of the Creator and thus we were given permission, not to stop the events, but to ensure the survival of the, shall we say, disembodied mind/body/spirit complex. This we did in those events which you mention, losing no spirit or portion or holograph or microcosm of the macrocosmic Infinite One.
Quote:26.22 Questioner: I don’t fully understand what you mean by that. Could you expand a little bit?
Ra: I am Ra. The use of intelligent energy transforming matter into energy is of such a nature among these weapons that the transition from space/time third density to time/space third density or what you may call your heaven worlds is interrupted in many cases.
And as neutral333 posted:
Quote:9.19 Questioner: I didn’t understand what these vehicles or beings were for that were appropriate in the event of nuclear war.
Ra: I am Ra. These are beings which exist as instinctual second-density beings which are being held in reserve to form what you would call a gene pool in case these body complexes are needed. These body complexes are greatly able to withstand the rigors of radiation which the body complexes you now inhabit could not do.
What I gather from this is that the only way radiation would affect us spiritually is through the catalyst which it offers, which could potentially be rather large. Otherwise, the only thing that affects us directly would be the energy release from a nuclear weapon.
RE: What the Fukushima? - Spaced - 03-04-2014
I have a pet theory that the "disarrangement of that unique vibratory complex you have called the spirit complex" has to do with the electromagnetic pulse which accompanies a nuclear explosion rather than any sort of radioactivity.
RE: What the Fukushima? - Rake - 03-04-2014
(03-04-2014, 05:21 AM)Guardian Wrote: The effect of the close proximity nuclear bomb most likely has an interdimensional impact allowing disintegration of the spirit.
I'm sure I'v read somewhere that a nuclear bomb would not be aloud to be dropped as it would impact other dimensions in a detrimental fashion.
It does beg the question what about Hiroshima?
RE: What the Fukushima? - Bring4th_Austin - 03-04-2014
(03-04-2014, 04:12 PM)Rake Wrote:(03-04-2014, 05:21 AM)Guardian Wrote: The effect of the close proximity nuclear bomb most likely has an interdimensional impact allowing disintegration of the spirit.
I'm sure I'v read somewhere that a nuclear bomb would not be aloud to be dropped as it would impact other dimensions in a detrimental fashion.
It does beg the question what about Hiroshima?
Some channels have stated that nuclear bombs would be interfered with when their detonation would be detrimental to realms that are not our own, that we do not have a right to interrupt. Active and retired Air Force personnel (enlisted and officers) have spoken at press conferences talking about UFO's tampering with nuclear weapons and silos. There is obviously a connection.
My own theory is that newer nuclear weapons are much more powerful than the ones dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. For example, the bomb dropped on Nagasaki was 20 kilotons and the most powerful nuclear weapon developed is 100,000 kilotons. I have no clue what that measurement denotes or what it means - my source for these numbers is this nuclear weapon simulator, which gives a pretty good example of how much more powerful modern nuclear weapons are than the ones used on Japan.
Perhaps since they are so much more powerful, their effect cannot be negated by the Confederations efforts as the effect of the earlier bombs could?
We also get the sense from the Ra material and other Confederation sources that the Confederation's interaction with Earth is constantly shifting, so maybe they decided, for some reason, that not allowing nukes to detonate (maybe in certain areas or circumstances) is a proper action for them to take?
RE: What the Fukushima? - Parsons - 03-04-2014
(03-04-2014, 04:43 PM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote: Perhaps since they are so much more powerful, their effect cannot be negated by the Confederations efforts as the effect of the earlier bombs could?
I would disagree. I would say it doesn't matter how powerful the weapon, the confederation or other entity could prevent the disarrangement. I say that because entities like Ra are outside time all together. They have said that they can move about in time at will. All they would have to do is remove the MBS complex just before the bomb detonated. Its analogous of editing a single frame of film in a movie reel.
RE: What the Fukushima? - zenmaster - 03-04-2014
(03-04-2014, 02:58 PM)Spaced Wrote: I have a pet theory that the "disarrangement of that unique vibratory complex you have called the spirit complex" has to do with the electromagnetic pulse which accompanies a nuclear explosion rather than any sort of radioactivity.Can you explain this theory? How does it account for a seemingly 1st density-level atomic reaction, even with time/space presence, disrupting a 3rd density-level spirit complex?
RE: What the Fukushima? - Spaced - 03-06-2014
(03-04-2014, 09:19 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(03-04-2014, 02:58 PM)Spaced Wrote: I have a pet theory that the "disarrangement of that unique vibratory complex you have called the spirit complex" has to do with the electromagnetic pulse which accompanies a nuclear explosion rather than any sort of radioactivity.Can you explain this theory? How does it account for a seemingly 1st density-level atomic reaction, even with time/space presence, disrupting a 3rd density-level spirit complex?
Admittedly my theory is pretty half-baked, and I don't have much of a scientific background, but I've always had the idea that the central nervous system operated through electrical impulses and produced a magnetic field, and wondered if that was the medium through which the mind, body and spirit communicated. On death the electromagnetic field of the body would leave the body, in the case of a nuclear explosion it would be blasted apart by the wide ranging electromagnetic pulse. I don't have much to support the theory so I was kinda just putting it out there to see if anyone felt the same way
I would be happy to hear any other explanations though.
RE: What the Fukushima? - yshurik - 03-06-2014
Regarding Fukusima and radiation I would like to quote one interesting part of channeling:
Quote:In relationship to power there are many things that we do not understand with regards to events on this planet which appear to accidents or else the consequences of ill-actions; let us name two of these for consideration: the release of atomic forces; and the destruction of the ozon layer as result of the release of CFC gases into atmosphere.
No one would normally think of the detonation of nuclear devices or the release of large quantities of radioactivity as a good thing - we probably all know that radioactivity can provoke various kinds of cancers, and after Chernobyl no one can be left in any real doubt as to the seriousness of civil nuclear accidents, even though the full story has not yet been told, and there is a lot more to come. However there is another side to radioactivity which our shamanic ancestors saw well enough: for all their major sacred ceremonial sites (and this throughout the Earth) were built or established over the significantly large deposits of Uranium, hence the power which is to be derived from these places. It transpires that radioactivity has a direct effect on consciousness, accelerating and boosting it in direct proportion to one's exposure to it (of course beyond a certain dose it is also lethal, although the greater one's consciousness, the less adverse is its effect).
Something of the same can be said of the Ultra-Violet radiation which is increasingly piercing through what remains of ozone layer in the upper atmosphere, which normally screens much of it out. Now consider this, and call it coincidence if you will, but at your own peril, so to speak: Uranium is an unstable metallic isotope which sheds its excess energy as various forms of energy particles; as its name implies Uranium is related to the planet Uranus, which is considered astrologically to be an unstable influence, i.e., a very powerful one. The Ray-colour of Uranus is Ultra-Violet; Uranus rules over Aquarius; and the symbol for Aquarius is radiation, as waveform. The 7th Ray is Violet, including Ultra-Violet; Uranus is interpreted as ruling over all acts of Magick. Put all these factors together, and the accidents related to above can be seen as evolutionary pointers instead - consequences of the type of Age we are entering into.
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