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Tunguska - Plenum - 04-23-2014

one of the most delightful aspects of the Ra Material is that it offers an alternate reading of much of history.

one of those alternate readings is regards what happened at Tunguska in 1908. The common view was that this was due to an asteroid exploding; but Ra claims that it was actually due to a Confederation Monitoring Device that had malfunctioned, and needed to be disposed of in a safe fashion.

here is the Q&A exchange that Don had with Ra:

Ra Wrote:17.3 Questioner: In meditation a few nights ago I had the impression of a question about a crater in Russia. I believe it was in Tunguska. Can you tell me what caused the crater?

Ra: I am Ra. The destruction of a fission reactor caused this crater.

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17.4 Questioner: Whose reactor?

Ra: I am Ra. This was what you may call a “drone” sent by Confederation which malfunctioned. It was moved to an area where its destruction would not cause infringement upon the will of mind/body/spirit complexes. It was then detonated.

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17.5 Questioner: What was its purpose in coming here?

Ra: It was a drone designed to listen to the various signals of your peoples. You were, at that time, beginning work in a more technical sphere. We were interested in determining the extent and the rapidity of your advances. This drone was powered by a simple fission motor or engine as you would call it. It was not that type which you now know, but was very small. However, it has the same destructive effect upon third-density molecular structures. Thus as it malfunctioned we felt it was best to pick a place for its destruction rather than attempt to retrieve it, for the possibility/probability modes of this maneuver looked very, very minute.

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17.6 Questioner: Was its danger both blast and radiation?

Ra: I am Ra. There is very little radiation, as you know of it, in this particular type of device. There is radiation which is localized, but the localization is such that it does not drift with the winds as does the emission of your somewhat primitive weapons.

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17.7 Questioner: I believe that a[n] analysis of the trees in that area has shown a low radiation level. Is this the reason for such a low radiation level in the trees?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. The amount of radiation is very localized. However, the energy which is released is powerful enough to cause difficulties.

a great relevant vid:



at 2 min 44 sec, you hear about a theory that a Russian Colonel devised which is basically how Ra explained the event.

and a pre-existing thread from 4 years ago:
http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=1742


RE: Tunguska - zenmaster - 04-24-2014

(04-23-2014, 06:16 PM)Bring4th_Plenum Wrote: at 2 min 44 sec, you hear about a theory that a Russian Colonel devised which is basically how Ra explained the event.

The same Russian Colonel (Retd. 1945), a UFOlogist and sci-fi writer, also wrote a novel with a story similar to that provided by Ra about Maldek.

"Kazantsev researched events and legends that he believed were evidences of paleocontacts. His novel Phaetae is based on the popular hypothesis of Phaeton, a planet that some[who?] believe has existed on the site of modern Asteroid belt. According to the novel, Phaeton was inhabited by the developed civilisation of phaetae race, who survived the destruction of their planet and brought some of their culture to the prehistorical people of Earth."

"Faety (The Destruction of Faena), 1974 novel by Alexander Kazantsev. The asteroid belt is the debris of Faena, the fifth planet of the Solar System located just between Mars and Jupiter. Faena was destroyed thousands of years before the first civilizations of Earth appeared, following the activation of a doomsday device-like thermonuclear super weapon built by the native sentient species and the few of them who survived the explosion (by launching into space) had to seek refuge on Mars and Earth. The homo sapiens genus is thus assumed to be a mixture of local DNA and the Faetan genes."


RE: Tunguska - zenmaster - 04-30-2014

Is anyone aware of any (Earth) historical detail provided by Ra that was not available from books and other media before the Ra channelling took place?


RE: Tunguska - Billy - 04-30-2014

Has any proof or evidence been found for any of the historical information/data that Ra gave about earth?


RE: Tunguska - Plenum - 05-01-2014

(04-30-2014, 10:18 PM)zenmaster Wrote: Is anyone aware of any (Earth) historical detail provided by Ra that was not available from books and other media before the Ra channelling took place?

I guess the window of transition between second and third density wouldn't qualify?

Quote:40.7 Questioner: How long was the time of transition on this planet between second and third density? Generation and a half I believe. Is that correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct, the time measured in your years being approximately one thousand three hundred and fifty [1,350].

Quote:20.6 Questioner: Speaking of the rapid change that occurred in the physical vehicle; the change from second to third density: this, you said, occurred in approximately a generation and a half. Body hair was lost and there were structural changes.

I am aware of the physics of Dewey B. Larson, who states that all is motion or vibration. Am I correct in assuming that the basic vibration, which makes up the physical world as we experience it, changes, thus creating a different set of parameters, shall I say, in this short period of time between density changes allowing for the new type of vehicle? Am I correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct.

it would sort of account for the lack of finding the 'missing link' between the apes and the humans, because it occurred over 1.5 generations, and was so rapid that fossils (which are highly subject to chance) would be a very unlikely occurence.


RE: Tunguska - zenmaster - 05-01-2014

The missing link predates 3rd density.


RE: Tunguska - Melissa - 05-01-2014

(05-01-2014, 08:16 PM)zenmaster Wrote: The missing link predates 3rd density.

Is that it?


RE: Tunguska - zenmaster - 05-02-2014

(05-01-2014, 11:54 PM)Melissa Wrote:
(05-01-2014, 08:16 PM)zenmaster Wrote: The missing link predates 3rd density.

Is that it?
The info obviously suggests different things to different people. Earth 3D began only 75K years ago. Prior to that, there were local apes evolving - possibly to the point of Neanderthal form. Strangely coincident with start of 3D was the clones whose bodies took over as modern humans.
"Genetic evidence published in 2010 suggests that Neanderthals contributed to the DNA of anatomically modern humans, probably through interbreeding between 80,000 and 28,000 years ago with a population of anatomically modern humans"
The 2D-3D transition period offering a "missing link" doesn't make much sense based on the evidence. Fossil record for humans is well known 75K years ago and stretches quite a bit older than that, back to around 1.9 million years ago.


RE: Tunguska - Melissa - 05-02-2014

How's your heart? And why don't you answer me?


RE: Tunguska - Conifer16 - 05-02-2014

This session is rather interesting to me. It suggests a very physical aspect to the technology used by the "aliens" observing our species. Or at least used by one of the varied civilizations keeping their eye on us. I had always been under the impression that the technology of these peoples, was not necessarily as physical as our is. Not as "nuts and bolts".


RE: Tunguska - Billy - 05-02-2014

I'm confused as well. How can such advanced beings make mistakes such as this? Surely they could have just used their minds to teleport the drone into space or something haha. Makes you think.