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Is time infinite (and what of Eternity)? - AnthroHeart - 08-08-2014
Eternity does not sound like a realistic measure of time.
Time will end when spacetime does. The universe will fizzle out as the last black hole disappears, trillions of years in the future.
I don't think it's accurate to say that Eternity is an infinite amount of time.
Eternity appears to be outside of time. The everpresent NOW.
Does our awareness last for eternity, and will we always be spiritually progressing?
RE: Is time infinite (and what of Eternity)? - third-density-being - 08-08-2014
(08-08-2014, 05:35 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Eternity does not sound like a realistic measure of time.
Time will end when spacetime does. The universe will fizzle out as the last black hole disappears, trillions of years in the future.
I don't think it's accurate to say that Eternity is an infinite amount of time.
Eternity appears to be outside of time. The everpresent NOW.
Does our awareness last for eternity, and will we always be spiritually progressing?
Answers for bolded questions: Yes, and Yes.
It is not that "eternity" is "an amount of time". "Eternity" is Our very imperfect label for naming one of aspects of that which is - literally - "non-physical". "Time" it Self is an Illusion, same as "Space" - they do not exist as We are perceiving them with Our physical senses. It is at best three-dimensional translation of "Events" (so many "things" may be labeled with this name in this context) beyond Our "range of perception" - or even "range of Understanding".
"Matter" is a form of energy - literally. Our environment is therefore a "field of energy". In the middle of it all there are Our Consciousness, which in order to interact with given field* of energy, is manifesting It-Self in such field. Such "Manifestation" (Beings in given realities) comply with laws of particular "field of energy" for as long, as It exists (incarnation/lifespan). Each "Manifestation" (i.e. me and You) are equipped with Consciousness that is part of a Greater Consciousness - Our Whole Self, which chosen to experience Self in such field of energy.
* there are an infinite in number "fields of energy"/realities/planes of existence
In short, by all above I wanted to say that You are Immortal and that You are a non-material Being. You and your identity/Consciousness have no end. You are and always will be.
Take Care Dear Gemini Wolf
RE: Is time infinite (and what of Eternity)? - AnthroHeart - 08-08-2014
This made me LOL since I am gay. It's good to laugh at oneself.
![[Image: lol_jesus.jpg]](http://www.furriesrock.com/images/lol_jesus.jpg)
It makes me curious, when people say "all of eternity", can eternity really be quantified as "all"?
RE: Is time infinite (and what of Eternity)? - Bring4th_Austin - 08-08-2014
(08-08-2014, 05:35 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Eternity appears to be outside of time. The everpresent NOW.
This is what I feel too. One of my favorite quotes from Mr. Joseph Campbell:
"Eternity isn't some later time. Eternity isn't even a long time. Eternity has nothing to do with time. Eternity is that dimension of here and now that all thinking in temporal terms cuts off out. This is it! And if you don't get it here, you won't get it anywhere. And the experience of eternity right here and now is the function of life."
Quote:Does our awareness last for eternity, and will we always be spiritually progressing?
I think that the aspect of consciousness that we access when we have moments of realization of eternity is an awareness that will "last for eternity." Any awareness that is attached to anything within the context of time would be superfluous to this ever-present awareness from which all things arise and fall, from which all awareness arises and falls. It seems to be the harvest of many of the Eastern traditions that this eternal awareness persists through infinity. Will we always be spiritually progressing? Ra said that their teachers have impressed upon them that "all consciousness periodically coalesces and again begins," so I'd wager a bet that the Creator will continue to experience itself, and in that will be what we, here in this present 3rd density, might call spiritually progressing.
RE: Is time infinite (and what of Eternity)? - AnthroHeart - 08-08-2014
I wonder in eternity if we continue to build up memories. Or when creation coalesces and begins again do we lose our past memory?
RE: Is time infinite (and what of Eternity)? - xise - 08-08-2014
(08-08-2014, 08:41 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I wonder in eternity if we continue to build up memories. Or when creation coalesces and begins again do we lose our past memory?
Nothing is permanently lost.
RE: Is time infinite (and what of Eternity)? - AnthroHeart - 08-08-2014
(08-08-2014, 08:42 PM)xise Wrote:(08-08-2014, 08:41 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: I wonder in eternity if we continue to build up memories. Or when creation coalesces and begins again do we lose our past memory?
Nothing is permanently lost.
Thank goodness. It will be good to get all my memories back after I pass on from this life. Sometimes I think in my spiritual development over eternity it will always be like it is here. I forget about how harmonious the higher densities are. And how much moreso the next Octave must be.
RE: Is time infinite (and what of Eternity)? - Stranger - 08-08-2014
(08-08-2014, 06:25 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: This made me LOL since I am gay. It's good to laugh at oneself.
It's funny. However, Jesus never said anything about homosexuality, and if he did, it did not make it into any of the Gospels.
RE: Is time infinite (and what of Eternity)? - anagogy - 08-08-2014
(08-08-2014, 05:35 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Eternity does not sound like a realistic measure of time.
Time will end when spacetime does. The universe will fizzle out as the last black hole disappears, trillions of years in the future.
I don't think it's accurate to say that Eternity is an infinite amount of time.
Eternity appears to be outside of time. The everpresent NOW.
Does our awareness last for eternity, and will we always be spiritually progressing?
I agree with you for the most part, but keep in mind that even when "space/time ends", it only ends for you. Think of space/time like roads that you may travel down. Just because you are done traveling down a road doesn't mean that no one will ever travel it again. And if "time" is just a measurement of change, and all states of change exist within the One, then time is, indeed, infinite in that sense, because all the roads still exist within the one, they don't disappear just because someone has finished going down one of the roads.
The one undifferentiated intelligent infinity doesn't travel down the roads of space/time we are calling "time", rather, it is like the container for all those roads, and it sits in eternal omnipresent awareness of all the infinite pathways of change, potential, and time that consciousness may kinetically explore.
Your consciousness is, indeed, eternal, and you will be exploring or knowing yourself for all eternity. So yes, we will always be progressing, not because of what the progression will net us, as we are infinite and eternal already, but rather, for the sake of the progression itself, which is the sensation of expansion, and is probably, the single most delicious experience in all the universe.
RE: Is time infinite (and what of Eternity)? - Rake - 08-09-2014
Time is a force and as such is malleable.
RE: Is time infinite (and what of Eternity)? - AnthroHeart - 08-09-2014
It's not possible to be in one place for all eternity is it? I don't even think we can hold the same level of awareness for eternity.
RE: Is time infinite (and what of Eternity)? - AnthroHeart - 08-09-2014
All I know is I don't want to be stagnant for any measurable long time. Certainly not for an eternity.
But I don't think I will be. Same as I won't be in 3D forever.
It makes me think about the density of foreverness. Is it really forever?
RE: Is time infinite (and what of Eternity)? - anagogy - 08-10-2014
(08-09-2014, 12:57 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: It's not possible to be in one place for all eternity is it? I don't even think we can hold the same level of awareness for eternity.
No, change is the only constant. But change only occurs below 8th density. 8th density is changeless in my opinion.
Octaves are like islands within the 8th density that allow for the experience of the illusion of change.
(08-09-2014, 04:12 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: All I know is I don't want to be stagnant for any measurable long time. Certainly not for an eternity.
But I don't think I will be. Same as I won't be in 3D forever.
It makes me think about the density of foreverness. Is it really forever?
In 7th density, you see the entire octave (our current island of densities) in its completeness. The momentum of time, which gives us our inevitable vector forward through the spiritual exercise of "knowing ourselves" ceases. This means, time stops. You are no longer at its mercy. The movement, at that point, is completely conscious and voluntary, whereas before, it was to varying degrees (depending on your density level) involuntary.
So, in that particular sense, it is forever. Because movement through time is no longer involuntary, to any degree whatsoever.
RE: Is time infinite (and what of Eternity)? - isis - 08-10-2014
"Perhaps someday we will discover that space and time are simpler than the human equation." ~Picard
RE: Is time infinite (and what of Eternity)? - xise - 08-10-2014
(08-10-2014, 12:49 AM)isis Wrote: "Perhaps someday we will discover that space and time are simpler than the human equation." ~Picard
Damn. It's hot that you can throw down those TNG quotes like nobody's business haha.
I guess there are some cool geeky girls out there in the universe after all.
RE: Is time infinite (and what of Eternity)? - isis - 08-10-2014
(08-10-2014, 12:58 AM)xise Wrote:lol(08-10-2014, 12:49 AM)isis Wrote: "Perhaps someday we will discover that space and time are simpler than the human equation." ~Picard
Damn. It's hot that you can throw down those TNG quotes like nobody's business haha.
I guess there are some cool geeky girls out there in the universe after all.
just me & jade =)
RE: Is time infinite (and what of Eternity)? - Jade - 08-10-2014
Haha. I think it may be synchronicity that yesterday I referenced TNG and my husband looked at me with his head cocked as if he hadn't heard me right, and then when he confirmed that I was indeed speaking of TNG he gave me an emphatic "I love you!"
RE: Is time infinite (and what of Eternity)? - xise - 08-10-2014
(08-10-2014, 03:36 PM)Jade Wrote: Haha. I think it may be synchronicity that yesterday I referenced TNG and my husband looked at me with his head cocked as if he hadn't heard me right, and then when he confirmed that I was indeed speaking of TNG he gave me an emphatic "I love you!"
So Isis is the only of you who isn't married?
To Isis's man: Bro, if you are reading this, you better put a ring on that finger. Fast.
RE: Is time infinite (and what of Eternity)? - Plenum - 08-11-2014
(08-08-2014, 05:35 PM)Gemini Wolf Wrote: Does our awareness last for eternity, and will we always be spiritually progressing?
I think, in the end, the Creator is Infinite, and that the whole system of the Octave was set up to explore a concept, that of Finity. It is all about Experience.
Part of the Choice of the Creator was to try and understand that Experience with a Limited Consciousness.
RE: Is time infinite (and what of Eternity)? - SeekOne - 08-13-2014
So if one is truly present, is linearity then no longer experienced/created as it hitherto was? Has one then awoken from the illusion of separateness, into a ''new'' curricula as so lovingly provided by the OIC? LOL. OIC. I like that one.
RE: Is time infinite (and what of Eternity)? - isis - 08-14-2014
HAHA THE OIC. that is a good one. i'll have to start using that
one infinite creator? oh, i see!
RE: Is time infinite (and what of Eternity)? - SeekOne - 08-14-2014
hehe :-)
Double entendras are great. I also like "spirit guides" & LOL as Lots of Love
RE: Is time infinite (and what of Eternity)? - AnthroHeart - 08-14-2014
I told my friend that I loved him as a friend, and he said he thought the same about me. He wasn't weirded out.