2012: Earth becomes STO 4D and waits for us... :-)

[Aaron]

Neat Video! I wonder if the patterns are the same if you repeat the experiment. It is very interesting how the patterns become more complex as the vibration/frequency increases.

The idea that the spirit will be left "standing there" resonates with me. What does that means for 3D?

In 4D are we self aware? I know that "awareness" is available in 3D. There are many that will attest to have had the experience of becoming aware of the love, light, and oneness of the universe, then "return" to their 3D bodies. When the veil is removed are we in 3D? Once the veil is removed we make a choice. I don't see how there is any turning back from that, of course, unless, we choose to do just that cuz of "free will"... However, once the cat is out of the bag, can the "aware" m/b/s co-exist with the m/b/s complex that is not? I don't see how the aware m/b/s would have any common topical interest as an unaware m/b/s complex.

Does Ra ever say how long the harvest will take, the order of the harvest, and what happens while we are waiting for our turn to be harvested?

I wonder if the harvested beings move on to 4D, and not harvested beings reincarnate into a remade 3D earth-like experience, with the vei intact, and no "knowledge" of what had transpired on earth in 2012.

I always thought of it like ascending a spiral staircase. We are taking the last few steps before our feet touch the landing of the fourth floor. Therefore, our head, shoulders, and torso is above that invisible line between third and fourth floor. So, we can activate our top chakras in 4th, but our lower chakras which represent our bodies, are still below that line, and in time, they will come up to fourth too. Just a thought.

[seejay21]

All are subject to the process of harvest, unless previously having been capable.

I suspect that you are refering to higher density beings incarnated in 3D? Maybe they'll crash the Rap party in harvested 4D earth. That would be fun.

[Peregrinus]

All are subject to the process of harvest, unless previously having been capable.

I suspect that you are refering to higher density beings incarnated in 3D? Maybe they'll crash the Rap party in harvested 4D earth. That would be fun.

At the time of the harvest, this all depends on the contract made between self, higher self, and the One Creator. Some wanderers may return to their density of origin, others may choose to be part of the fourth density on on earth, while others still yet may go with the remainder of mankind and complete another cycle. We have free will, and thus may choose to repeat any density as many times as we like. We, as such, reduce the distortion of light in ourselves, thus speeding the time in which we will return to being at one with the One Creator.

[gharghur]

Relax, most will not even notice the transition.

Hehe, I think that's the understatement of the last 75,000 years! This is a life changing event, born of the spirit, a graduation day parade the likes we have never imagined! There will not be a soul on this planet that does not "notice", even if unconscious. The question is, how will they meet it.

Questioner: Can you comment on the coming planetary changes in our physical reality?

Ra: I am Ra. The changes are very, very trivial. We do not concern ourselves with the conditions which bring about harvest.

Questioner: How does a third-density planet become a fourth density planet?

Ra: I am Ra. This will be the last full question.

The fourth density is, as we have said, as regularized in its approach as the striking of a clock upon the hour. The space/time of your solar system has enabled this planetary sphere to spiral into space/time of a different vibrational configuration. This causes the planetary sphere to be able to be molded by these new distortions. However, the thought-forms of your people during this transition period are such that the mind/body/spirit complexes of both individual and societies are scattered throughout the spectrum instead of becoming able to grasp the needle, shall we say, and point the compass in one direction.

Thus, the entry into the vibration of love, sometimes called by your people the vibration of understanding, is not effective with your present societal complex. Thus, the harvest shall be such that many will repeat the third-density cycle. The energies of your Wanderers, your teachers, and your adepts at this time are all bent upon increasing the harvest. However, there are few to harvest.

Questioner: Thank you very much. I would like to say again that we consider it a great honor, privilege, and duty to be able to do this particular work. I would like to reiterate that some of my questions may seem irrelevant at times, but I am trying to ask them in a manner so as to gain a foothold into the application of the Law of One.

We are now in the fourth density. Will the effects of the fourth density increase in the next thirty years? Will we see more changes in our environment and our effect upon our environment?

Ra: I am Ra. The fourth density is a vibrational spectrum. Your time/space continuum has spiraled your planetary sphere and your, what we would call galaxy, what you call star, into this vibration. This will cause the planetary sphere itself to electromagnetically realign its vortices of reception of the in-streaming of cosmic forces expressing themselves as vibrational webs so that the Earth thus be fourth-density magnetized, as you may call it.

This is going to occur with some inconvenience, as we have said before, due to the energies of the thought-forms of your peoples which disturb the orderly constructs of energy patterns within your Earth spirals of energy which increases entropy and unusable heat. This will cause your planetary sphere to have some ruptures in its outer garment while making itself appropriately magnetized for fourth density. This is the planetary adjustment.

You will find a sharp increase in the number of people, as you call mind/body/spirit complexes, whose vibrational potentials include the potential for fourth-vibrational distortions. Thus, there will seem to be, shall we say, a new breed. These are those incarnating for fourth-density work.

There will also be a sharp increase in the short run of negatively oriented or polarized mind/body/spirit complexes and social complexes, due to the polarizing conditions of the sharp delineation between fourth-density characteristics and third-density self-service orientation.

Those who remain in fourth density upon this plane will be of the so-called positive orientation. Many will come from elsewhere, for it would appear that with all the best efforts of the Confederation, which includes those from your peoples’ inner planes, inner civilizations, and those from other dimensions, the harvest will still be much less than this planetary sphere is capable of comfortably supporting in service.

[thefool]

quote from Q'UO February 11, 2007

"When the time lateral ends and those who are still breathing third-density air upon Earth are still around to pick up the pieces—which you are already doing, my friends—those who were not able to make the transition with you will all have been picked up as they enter larger life through the gates of death and with infinite care, cherished and supported through their own process of discovering what lay behind the veil of forgetting. They will be given every chance to consider their lives and what they wish to do next. They will go to a third-density planet somewhere that is not Earth and they will take up the third-density classroom once again, attempting to learn to make that choice and to set the intention not just for third density but for so many densities to come, all the way through the middle of sixth density."

that to me sounds like #2, or some version of that. Actually we all believe something already and have been finding proof of that something...

[artichoke]

quote from Q'UO February 11, 2007

"When the time lateral ends and those who are still breathing third-density air upon Earth are still around to pick up the pieces—which you are already doing, my friends—those who were not able to make the transition with you will all have been picked up as they enter larger life through the gates of death and with infinite care, cherished and supported through their own process of discovering what lay behind the veil of forgetting. They will be given every chance to consider their lives and what they wish to do next. They will go to a third-density planet somewhere that is not Earth and they will take up the third-density classroom once again, attempting to learn to make that choice and to set the intention not just for third density but for so many densities to come, all the way through the middle of sixth density."

that to me sounds like #2, or some version of that.

It does seem a lot of people, prominent ones who shape the culture, have died in the past few years. Of course, as one gets older, the leaders from one's childhood start to drop off, but it seems quite noticeable to me and of course I cannot compare to how it would have been say 100 years ago.

Brave new world, certainly.

Actually we all believe something already and have been finding proof of that something...

What did you mean by this comment?

[thefool]

Actually we all believe something already and have been finding proof of that something...

What did you mean by this comment?

OK. Simply put- we find proof for what we are looking for. We have different ideas about the harvest or for that matter any topic and then we attract facts or quotes or statistics proving that idea.

[gharghur]

That's when discernment comes into play.

[Aaron]

Actually we all believe something already and have been finding proof of that something...

What did you mean by this comment?

OK. Simply put- we find proof for what we are looking for. We have different ideas about the harvest or for that matter any topic and then we attract facts or quotes or statistics proving that idea.

I agree, I've formed a personal opinion about the harvest and can see the passages seem to reinforce this opinion, but it IS just an opinion, and I see how it can work both ways.

Oh well, we will just have to wait and see what the harvest brings... or is already bringing...?

[creationist]

I hope we see more and more proof of the Harvest, both for myself and for others whom I would want to make the 4D transition with.

[ayadew]

The proof is in yourself.

[ExperiencedGhost]

Here's my opinion or better questions that you do not need to answer.
Maya's telling us about transition that it will not happen all sudden but that there's a window from october 25 until end of 2015. A 7 - 8 years window of transition. Maya's are leaders of many tribes on this world because the rest have a Mayan origin, high priest is the president of the Mayan Civilisation. Ra tells us "we are in 4th density NOW" this was in 1984 (book was published in 1998).
I am confused now. Mayan civilisation tells us (docu "Shift of the ages") that the spanish conquerors didn't destroyed all their secret scriptings. It was safely put away before they came. (My personal comment : they (spanish) came at the command of the Vatican, because Vatican doesn't want the people to know about certain wisdom, they would lose all power over people.) Those Mayan scriptures are telling us those exact dates (window of transition). Further, Mayan tells us, those people with wisdom from the stars will return. They were there folks ! But that also is so confusing... But that's another subject.
Question : Ra tells in 1984 we're in 4the density, Mayan window of transition comes after that. Confusing... Are we already in 4th or not ?
David Wilcock tells us that it will happen all sudden. So this is not true. But than again he's showing us reptile eyes too, just like David Icke and Bush Senior, Clintons...
If we are genetically manipulated (sitchin theorie : sumerian tablets) than explanation is already provided. But why not me or you but those who are speaking out about the coming change ?
What I understand about the harvest is that we must die first, but how ? A doom scenario ? A sudden light tunnel to takes us away ? Who ? only a small part of the people ? Other sources tells us averybody.
Questions, they will never go away... I'll have to wait and see. But I don't loose sleep over this !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOMiowrff0Y I have build that in while translating (subs) Enigma 2012 of David Wilcock, but in a faster speed. And yes, if you change again into the same frequencie, it will take the same form as the first time. You can see this already with snow crystals on a window, always the same form, as you can find this as well within the world of virusses. Always the same form... Every form has his OWN frequencie.

[gharghur]

You picked a perfect day for this post: the winter solstice.
By the official calculations winter started at 12:47 EST today. It is now officially winter. What does this mean? Today and the next two days will provide the least amount of sunlight of the entire year. Clearly this does not mean areas have not already experienced the effects of winter. Snow storms have been occurring in various parts of the country for more than a month. Now jumping to 2012.
At 11:11 on Dec 21st 2012 our solar system will officially enter the fourth density. The effects of entering of the fourth density have been going on for decades. This is what Ra implied by stating we are already into the fourth density. The transition, like the seasons, is not in an instant. It's a gradual process that stretches out over time, as we measure time. The peak of this transition, like the seasons, will be felt in different parts of the world at different times.

[ExperiencedGhost]

Still, the Mayas are saying that there's no fixed date, so how saying that at 11:11 on Dec 21st 2012 our solar system will officially enter the fourth density.Why not january 2014 if there would be a window for transition up to end 2015 ? Or is 11:11 on Dec 21st 2012 just an "official" date ?
But first an other issue. Project Montauk and others that would have influenced our timeline, this has affirmed by multiple whisleblowers who doesn't hide ther face or name. In fact we have changed of timeline so what was predicted long ago won't even not happen or in just a small part. If that would be the case, than will the big step forward really happening ?
Screwing around with timelines is still something mysterious. They, the Black Ops doesn't know what could happen, it's still guessing around. Thus... screwing things up ! This area is still an unknown world of science. I do not speak of rapture because this is a wrong description, I would rather say a step in evolution. Even still what names we might give to it, it's still a mysterie to us.
Hope you understand my english !

[gharghur]

Yes. December 21st, 2012 is the official date.
If timelines were influenced, they were likely influenced in the direction of this anticipated date. When one checks the internet there are many dates, reflecting many opinions. Nevertheless, the exact date is not as important, to the current inhabitants of earth, as the transition period.
The official date only locks out any future incarnations of third density beings. After the clocks strikes, they will need to incarnate elsewhere.
As for the third density beings already here. They will continue their lifespans unimpeded, while still having the opportunity to choose STS or STO before their body vehicles terminate.

[thefool]

Ra tells us "we are in 4th density NOW" this was in 1984 (book was published in 1998).
I am confused now.

Question : Ra tells in 1984 we're in 4the density, Mayan window of transition comes after that. Confusing... Are we already in 4th or not ?

Hi ExperiencedGhost,

I had the similar confusion but now I have somewhat of an understanding. 3rd or 4th? Here are direct from Ra-

Jan 29, 1981
"13.22 Questioner: What is the density level of our planet Earth at this time?

Ra: I am Ra. The sphere upon which you dwell is third density in its beingness of mind/body/spirit complexes. It is now in a space/time continuum, fourth density. This is causing a somewhat difficult harvest."

so my understanding based upon that- Earth is 3rd density on a path to 4th density.

from the same session
"13.23 Questioner: How does a third-density planet become a fourth density planet?

Ra: I am Ra. This will be the last full question.

The fourth density is, as we have said, as regularized in its approach as the striking of a clock upon the hour. The space/time of your solar system has enabled this planetary sphere to spiral into space/time of a different vibrational configuration. This causes the planetary sphere to be able to be molded by these new distortions. "

So based upon that it appears to be a change fixed in time as the forces are already in play. However as the earth is already on the path it is able to be molded and influenced by the new vibrations of the 4th to a certain extent. But the full force of 4th will be fixed in time. I think the time was also mentioned by Ra around 2011/2012 (I don't currently have the time to find the quote on time

[ExperiencedGhost]

As for the third density beings already here. They will continue their lifespans unimpeded, while still having the opportunity to choose STS or STO before their body vehicles terminate.

Terminate = physical body that dies

I wander how... I hope not painfull.

I think the time was also mentioned by Ra around 2011/2012 (I don't currently have the time to find the quote on time

Hmm, yes but....


Still have my spiritual experiences... so the "date of change" is not important to me. It's that confusing...
Of topic now (existed in another topic but that's not use anymore)
Heard someone answer again in my head in an unknown language to me when I said to myself that it was time to go to sleep. I had the impression he (a male voice) meant something like "that 'll be a great idea ". And again in the middle of my head. Just wanted to say this here.

[thefool]

I think the time was also mentioned by Ra around 2011/2012 (I don't currently have the time to find the quote on time

Hmm, yes but....

OK. Here to make you happy...

This was in Jan, 1981 session #6

"6.17 Questioner: Is this inconvenience imminent within a few years?

Ra: I am Ra. This inconvenience, or disharmonious vibratory complex, has begun several of your years in your past. It shall continue unabated for a period of approximately thirty of your years.

6.18 Questioner: After this period of thirty years I am assuming that this will be a fourth-density planet. Is this correct?

Ra: I am Ra. This is so."

1981+30 = 2011 approximately, as per this.

[Aaron]

I wonder how long it takes for our solar system to complete one wave...

[gharghur]

[quote='gharghur' pid='8269' dateline='1261507520']
As for the third density beings already here. They will continue their lifespans unimpeded, while still having the opportunity to choose STS or STO before their body vehicles terminate.

Terminate = physical body that dies

I wander how... I hope not painfull.

A natural death. Third density beings are not terminated when the earth enters full fourth density. That would be cruel, and without compassion, to the third density beings on this planet, or any other planet entering fourth density.

[Peregrinus]

There will be no fear or pain or suffering or even a thought of death. As Q'uo said in a 2007 channelling, the lateral time line will come to an end.

This means the third density illusion will simply stop and the harvest will happen, not in space/time, but in time/space, where the 4th and higher densities occur.

People seem to be very hung up the "death" part of this. In a true sense, there will be no death, because the illusion of life here is that; an illusion.

Consider that these bodies are but the puppets that are interacting and learning amid other puppets. When the puppet is laid down, the self still lives. The puppet has never lived, but only portrays the illusion of life. The puppet master, our spirit, is that which is infinite, for each is a spark of the One Creator, and the One Creator is infinitely timeless. To fear laying the puppet down does not make spiritual sense, but there is a reason for it.

Our spirits inhabit the mind/bodies of the great ape, and as such instinctively strive for self preservation, the preservation of our family, and the preservation of our clan. This is the ape instinct, not our instinct. Have faith, and release thyself from the bonds of the ape mind. We are much more than that, each and every one of you.

[ayadew]

Life is permanent.
Death is temporary.

The reverse of this seem to be a popular belief

Also I love Ra's choice of words. "Inconvenience" only begins to describe the mess this planet is in currently.

[gharghur]

2012 is all about Love, not fear

Everything is vibration, waves, cycles and frequency. All of the universe vibrates at various resonant frequencies. The various densities vibrate in ascending frequencies from the lower to the higher. As the third density earth makes the transition into fourth density it is raising its resonant frequency. This is occurring as the sun is transiting the center point of the galaxy and the earth is moving from the pisces age of separation, to the aquarius age of enlightenment.
The transition from age to age is known as the precession cycle: 25,800 years. On earth we have experienced three of these precession cycles while in third density: the 75,000 year 3D cycle. If we divide the 25,800 year precession cycle by 360 degrees, each degree (wave) takes 72 years to traverse. About the time of a normal lifespan.
All waves and cycles start at a lull, build to a crest, and then wane to a lull. These waves take 72 years to unfold while the entire cycle takes 25,800 years. If we then use 2012 as the center point of the last wave during the transition from 3D to 4D. The beginning of this last wave began in 1976, will peak in 2012, and then end in 2048. From 1976 to 2048, lull to peak to lull, completes the 72 year wave.
RA stated in the early 1980's the earth was already into 4D. Correct, the transition started in 1976.
Mayans proclaim that the transition period starts when a blue star appears in the sky and ends when a red star appears, and this period should takes about seven years. On Oct 24th, 2007 the blue star appeared when a comet exploded in the sky forming an image that was larger than the sun. They are now expecting the red star to appear by 2014/15. Seven years is about one tenth of the 72 year wave. Their prophecy fits.
David Wilcock is honed into the 2012 date as well, as many of us are.
Overall, this last wave of 3D has been unfolding since 1976, and will continue to unfold into 2048. The year 2012 is the crest of the wave that has been building since 1976. When the clock strikes 11:11 on Dec 21st 2012 the opportunity for third density entities to incarnate on this planet will end. Only fourth density entities, and above, will be allowed to incarnate into new human lifeforms. The remaining third density beings, already here, will continue to live out their lifespan. Just as all first and second density entities on this planet. The trees and animals will not be immediately terminated, nor will the human entities. Earth is entering a density of unconditional love. Why would it start that density by terminating lifeforms? Not much love in that is there? The remaining third density humans will be aided by the existing and new fourth density humans in making the choice of STO or STS. The Harvest will end when the last harvestable 3D entity terminates its bodily form. Hope this helps.

[gharghur]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...nking.html

[Peregrinus]

“It is likely that there are natural variations in solar wind pressure and over time it will either stabilise or start going back up.”

Haha. Based on what? Where is the scientific evidence o suggest this? Scientists... They explain with science until they don't understand something, and then they provide personal opinions about the rest...

[irpsit]

To put everything clear: there will be no magical event in 2012, no end!
The transition is gradual, and both Ra and Quo state that.

I am not 100% sure, but this is my best idea about our future.
Life will go on as usual, but there will be many (like now) big changes in our society. No 3D entities will incarnate after 2012, which is a big relief (if this is really true). So, if I have a baby after 2012, he or she will be a 4D entity in a 3D body.
By 2012 + 120 = 2132, there will be nearly no 3D alive on Earth: so, the harvest will be complete. Probably earlier, by 2012 + 60= 2080, the Earth will be mostly inhabited 4D. So, for those of us which are around 30, we will probably live to see a world already partially populated by 4D entities. If this is not true, then I also don't worry about it too.

As Quo stated, we will have our changes to continue our 3D lives, in peace, and make our choices, before we die naturally a few decades later. Then, we either incarnate in 4D Earth or somewhere else. So, I guess we should focus in our life NOW, and not in a future life or promise!!

However, I think the the PHYSICAL transition of 3D to 4D, of our bodies and world around, is very gradual and result of a mix of 3D and 4D. Remember 4D is still part physicality! Maybe a few centuries in the future, the world will seem less real and more dreamy and less physical. Until then, there will be a great emphasis and increase on service and love vibrations.
This is like the autumn transition into winter and winter transition into spring: it is gradual; or when a planet transits your ascendant in your natal chart: it a gradual year of transformation, and it is not single day or moment, but a series of days and moments of big change.
Similarly, there will be probably many years of big changes in the future.

I completely agree with your statement below:
Peace for all, and may 2010 be a GREAT and HAPPY year for you all!!

Overall, this last wave of 3D has been unfolding since 1976, and will continue to unfold into 2048. The year 2012 is the crest of the wave that has been building since 1976. When the clock strikes 11:11 on Dec 21st 2012 the opportunity for third density entities to incarnate on this planet will end. Only fourth density entities, and above, will be allowed to incarnate into new human lifeforms. The remaining third density beings, already here, will continue to live out their lifespan. Just as all first and second density entities on this planet. The trees and animals will not be immediately terminated, nor will the human entities. Earth is entering a density of unconditional love. Why would it start that density by terminating lifeforms? Not much love in that is there? The remaining third density humans will be aided by the existing and new fourth density humans in making the choice of STO or STS. The Harvest will end when the last harvestable 3D entity terminates its bodily form. Hope this helps.

I completely review myself in the comment below:

If a sudden change, what would that mean? All human bodies would leave 3rd density environment. So in 3rd density would stay just lot of buildings, cars, and lot of useless stuff. Who would clean it up? Who would then clean the mess that people left here? And we have lot of karma here from not respecting our mother Earth. And it could be done just from 3rd density.

So my guess, if I would be the Creator, I would make it little bit slower. To let my children to clean the place. And then when the job is finished, gradually stop living in 3rd density and switch to beautiful new 4D environment that is already here, we just don't see it.

And, Ra, said this, which is good news:

Questioner: Can you comment on the coming planetary changes in our physical reality?

Ra: I am Ra. The changes are very, very trivial. We do not concern ourselves with the conditions which bring about harvest.

Questioner: How does a third-density planet become a fourth density planet?

Ra: I am Ra. This will be the last full question.

The fourth density is, as we have said, as regularized in its approach as the striking of a clock upon the hour. The space/time of your solar system has enabled this planetary sphere to spiral into space/time of a different vibrational configuration. This causes the planetary sphere to be able to be molded by these new distortions. However, the thought-forms of your people during this transition period are such that the mind/body/spirit complexes of both individual and societies are scattered throughout the spectrum instead of becoming able to grasp the needle, shall we say, and point the compass in one direction.

So, relax yourself and feel/share the joy!

[Peregrinus]

To put everything clear: there will be no magical event in 2012, no end!
The transition is gradual, and both Ra and Quo state that.

On the contrary. The lateral time line will come to an end and we will go into time/space. If you consider that of little consequence, then so be it.

Q'uo, Feb 7, 2007

The planet itself, minus the time lateral, will completely shift into fourth density at the winter solstice of 2011.

There is an area around this time that is not clock time because the change is not in space/time but in time/space.

When the time lateral ends and those who are still breathing third-density air upon Earth are still around to pick up the pieces—which you are already doing, my friends—those who were not able to make the transition with you will all have been picked up as they enter larger life through the gates of death and with infinite care, cherished and supported through their own process of discovering what lay behind the veil of forgetting. They will be given every chance to consider their lives and what they wish to do next. They will go to a third-density planet somewhere that is not Earth and they will take up the third-density classroom once again, attempting to learn to make that choice and to set the intention not just for third density but for so many densities to come, all the way through the middle of sixth density.

There is, though, no reason to fear.

There is no cause, in our view, for any fear. This is simply what is happening upon your planet at this time. How it will play out in the Earth scene, in the manifested world, we do not know. Each and every one of you has the say in that. And we know that you are setting your intention, setting your sail on this journey of the waters of spirituality and asking for the wind of the spirit to be behind you and to send you where you need to go.

[gharghur]

"The planet itself, minus the time lateral, will completely shift into fourth density at the winter solstice of 2011.
There is an area around this time that is not clock time because the change is not in space/time but in time/space."

There are two ways of defining this quote.
The first would be the one you offered.
The second would be that the planet, in time/space, will completely shift into 4D on 21 Dec 2011. However, we currently exist in space/time. And the time lateral will shift into 4D in the following year. In effect, the resonant frequency of time/space will aide is shifting space/time to a higher harmonic frequency.

[thefool]

I have no clue what is going to happen. In fact it gets more confusing with all these contradictions. But I have known one thing, from my own intuition and dreams, for a long time- Something significant will happen in our life times. It may have gradual signs showing up before the event but it will not be like any other day we have had in earth's history. The good and bad interpretation is our own to make from it...

[Peregrinus]

What is "the bad" interpretation you speak of? I haven't seen one yet.