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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Spiritual Development & Metaphysical Matters I Am That

    Thread: I Am That


    thefool (Offline)

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    04-14-2010, 11:22 AM (This post was last modified: 05-01-2010, 02:41 PM by Monica.)
    Moderator note: Does the 'M' refer to Maharaj?

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    Quote:M: That in which consciousness happens, the universal consciousness or mind, we call the ether of consciousness. All the objects of consciousness form the universe. What is beyond both, supporting both, is the supreme state, a state of utter stillness and silence. Whoever goes there, disappears. It is unreachable by words, or mind. You may call it God, or Parabrahman, or Supreme Reality, but these are names given by the mind. It is the nameless, contentless, effortless and spontaneous state, beyond being and not being.'

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    Quote:M: Of course, everything is inter-linked. And therefore everything has numberless causes. The entire universe contributes to the least thing. A thing is as it is, because the world is as it is. You see, you deal in gold ornaments and I -- in gold. Between the different ornaments there is no causal relation. When you re-melt an ornament to make another, there is no causal relation between the two. The common factor is the gold. But you cannot say gold is the cause. It cannot be called a cause, for it causes nothing by itself. It is reflected in the mind as 'I am', as the ornament's particular name and shape. Yet all is only gold. In the same way reality makes everything possible and yet nothing that makes a thing what it is, its name and form, comes from reality.
    But why worry so much about causation? What do causes matter, when things themselves are transient? Let come what comes and let go what goes -- why catch hold of things and enquire about their causes?'


    In my opinion the 'Law of One' and NM's 'I am ness' have the same final goal, the oneness. NM declares the world to be an illusion and only reality being the I am ness/Oneness. NM's approach would strive to take you to the realization of intelligent infinity from the day one. While Ra's approach would take it step by step and identify distortions and classify distortions into different dimensions. Then slowly one by one you remove distortions and move up the ladder of being distortions free and reach the ultimate goal of being completely distortion free. Then you don't have an individual identity and any attrobutes as all attributes, names, forms are bound to cause distortions. There is only nameslessness and formlessness is left, the I AMness.

    Sorrun-Now I would love to hear your thoughts my friend !

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    I Am That - by Sorrun - 04-12-2010, 09:54 PM
    RE: I Am That - by thefool - 04-13-2010, 12:06 PM
    RE: I Am That - by thefool - 04-13-2010, 05:06 PM
    RE: I Am That - by Steppingfeet - 05-06-2010, 09:07 PM
    RE: I Am That - by thefool - 04-14-2010, 11:22 AM
    RE: I Am That - by Sorrun - 04-14-2010, 07:29 PM
    RE: I Am That - by Monica - 05-01-2010, 02:42 PM
    RE: I Am That - by Cyclops - 04-14-2010, 10:21 PM

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