(03-11-2012, 04:56 PM)Ankh Wrote: Cyan, I am not sure that you can capture or enslave your Higher Self, as it is you in the future. How is it possible to capture and enslave yourself in the future? But then who knows... Intelligent Infinity works in mysterious ways.
Instead of starting a whole new topic, I would like to share my thoughts as a reply to this post in this topic I remembered was already here.
First of all, "How is it possible to capture and enslave yourself in the future?" Obviously the same way that the higher self guides and advises the self in the "past". I thought everyone here had already come to terms with the simultaneity of all time in ultimate reality (in which your higher self exists, so you're guiding your "tentacles" "now", or are being "enslaved" "now"). I do not see how time, out of all things, should be the main problem here.
Moving on, to the "enslavement" of the higher self. When I first read this (first and still the only occasion I've heard of such) here, my first thought was "b*llocks", or something along that line. Some say you should listen to your first unbiased instinct, your "gut feeling", as that is the right one. But then again, it could equally be the reaction of a closed-minded ego-self judging too soon based on a lack of insight. My response might've been this latter one, based on my most recent of my, what I like to call, "revelations". Let me explain.
I have come to believe that a very valid path to "whatever it is seekers are aiming to get to" (enlightenment, ascension, evolution, whatever, I don't care any more) is by building a close personal relationship with "whatever higher force you believe in" (your higher self, God, nature, the Universe, Great Spirit, I give up) as described in the Conversations with God series, most importantly Friendship with God (all of which is essentially is Neale channeling his higher self through automatic writing, if you like).
There are many ways to do that, I will not attempt to give an extensive list here, you can get an idea from the CWG books, or even from the Convoluted Universe books, but there is a wealth of info on this online anywhere. What matters is the intention. You need to have the desire which needs to reach a certain intensity and I suppose, being in this low-vibe 3D, you must DO something, like meditate (which may be considered engagement in the ultimate lack of doing anything), prayer, yoga, channeling, and the list is as varied as entities can be.
The point here that would be relevant to the above remark would be, that creating such a personal relationship is not a possibility on the + path ONLY! Indeed, your higher self, which is BEYOND polarities, (meaning it had incorporated both "sides", or rather had realized there is no such thing as sides, merely on an illusory level) will provide its "assistance" to its "tentacles" upon request, regardless of the tentacle's polarity. Obviously a highly aware, negatively polarizing entity will be more than likely inclined to "draw" on such a resource once aware of it (which it should become pretty soon as I imagine), which it will pursue with great efforts, or maybe not so great, due to their level of discipline. Now obviously the purposes which they will "use" their higher self for will be predominantly self-serving, which is perfectly fine for the HS. As long as the entity has the intense desire and the specific goal, a sense of purpose, which can be considered their seeking, or following their own path, which is as valid as any other, the higher self will not say "no, you're bad, I'm not helping you". And due to the nature of what neg entities do as part of following their path, which is manipulation, enslavement and control, they will, to the external observer, seem as though this enslaver had managed to enslave their higher self. Which would be no more than saying that they are using the "Secret" (as explained by Rhonda Byrne) the "you create your own reality" principle, to their own purposes rather than the service of other selves. Which is not really that "different", as you need to have learned to love and care for your self FIRST as a pre-requisite of helping others EFFECTIVELY.
For me, "enslave", and "make contact with", are just two ways of describing the same process. Even if you're on the positive path, you are still making a concrete request to the HS expecting a response from it. What is quintessential here is the HS's recognition and honouring of the free will of the lower selves and providing what is asked without judgement. However, when a neg entity does the same, it may SEEM enslavement, or you might perceive it as though they had made a pact with the devil, or they are controlled by Satan, whatever your personal background is, where in reality it's just another of your(!) other-selves utilizing available tools to evolve. And that's already more than most are still stuck in.
As a side-note, I am currently interested in creating a dialogue with my higher self using what's called the QHHT, which you can read about if you want, but there is a WORLD more to what I have in mind with it, which would be long and complicated to begin to explain here, and I consider it as my own path only. Would love to share, maybe after some progress in a separate topic would be more appropriate. To sum it up, I would prefer clear verbal communication, which can be initiated without an external hypnotherapist, maybe eventually even without the need of a trance state, or perhaps being accessible any time due to a lack of difference between a trance state and the waking state, at least on a certain level. Who knows what's possible.