Why the hate for wisdom?

[Minyatur]

Blossom/Minyator - your speaking of feeling "sadness" and "painful" for someone being banned, is a bit difficult to read when I (and Glow) were spoken to in a really harsh, aggressive manner.

And you have never been both harsh and aggressive on this platform with anyone?

Do you forget he called me "the most hateful person here"?

Did that hurt you or you were simply outraged at the idea of being insulted?

If my memory serves correctly, there were at least 2 or 3 people who had a similar opinion, although it may have been worded otherwise or not stated explicitedly. You are somewhat strong in your view when you believe an opinion is invalid to be had.

- and Jade has explained further that what went down with that member 'behind the scenes' was very intense in terms of him continuing to be very abusive... yet still you have tender feelings for the banned member; but share no consolation to those here that he abused?

Again, did he actually hurt anyone or did he just seem angry at his every opinion being disminished as invalid and wrong to have?

I don't feel sad for speedforce - I feel he has been given the gift of honesty, patience, tolerance, loving words said to him, and after all that failed - the kindness of firm and healthy boundaries which could help him in the future - by letting him know what people won't (after much patience) tolerate.

I failed to see the patience actually.

This has been a kindness to him. He may have otherwise received this lesson in an harsh or even violent manner from people far less tolerant and loving than we here are.

I don't think denying everything someone says in an energy that is clearly outraged at their opinion is rendered kind because you end it with something that says you hope the hurt in him heals. Sounds like hypocrisy meant to invalidate further what he is saying, he doesn't even have an opinion, he's just hurt. I'd even venture to say that although it may make yourself look nice, you probably know it'll do little more than trigger him further.

I feel compassion for him - and had a pang in my heart centre when I saw he was banned (with a line drawn through the name) - but I also love myself, Glow, and forum members and mods - and I especially value the stressful moderation that we know NOTHING OF that occurs prior to such a drastic decision. So consideration for all of us is the focus imo - not just the banned member.

In fact - not banning after ongoing aggressive behaviour - is actually a disservice to that person as well as the forum.


Diana wrote regarding the lack of basic politeness in modern (western) society - and this is something I was alluding to in one of my recent posts also - (as it's so pronouncedly missing from modern millennial/generation Z discourse.)

I would like to add something I have mentioned before here. And that is the concept of politeness, which has gone out of popularity societally. Children were taught manners and how to be polite long ago, during the Victorian age for example.

Politeness can mitigate extreme conflict. Politeness doesn't have to repress. Practicing it can give one a moment to pause, and not succumb to impulsivity, which often causes regrets. Impulsivity can cause us to spew without rational thought or check.

So, instead of feeling as though one has to fit into an STO box of cheerful and loving discourse when one is triggered, it might help to just think of being polite. Just that.

Victorian politeness and morals had much that needed to be disbanded - but there was a basic protocol of polite (but honest) interaction that still serves communication between people with differing ideas very well.

Good for Diana. I would say that I found the people you bond the closest to are the people you can most freely talk with. I personally think adding a layer of etiquette would add a layer of fakeness. Maybe though it is more useful with people you are not close to.

If we want to talk about things Diana has said, she states multiple times she does not believe in reinforcing victimhood and instead reinforce self-empowerment.

hence B4th's first guideline:

1) The Cornerstone
The key governing principle of the entire Bring4th community, and all L/L Research social media venues, is the request that all members treat others with respect, especially when disagreeing. The participant may disagree to the bone with an idea without personally attacking the author.

Well I do not think he was actually met with respect either, maybe he was less in control when responding. Guess there can be a more subtle aggression and a more direct one and if he was a bit more cunning than sincere he wouldn't have been banned.