(02-16-2011, 03:05 AM)Crimson Wrote: The socialism I am talking about was never allowed to exist...You cannot say anything against it because it does not exist...yet.
I could say something about it if you would describe it.
Why would you expect anyone to support your idea if you can't explain it? I've heard communist rhetoric before and I've seen the destruction it has caused. Every single time communist radicals influence policy it creates more suffering. Social safety nets have been proven to work but this is wholly different from socialism as Marx meant it, or communism as it was implemented.
My country calls itself a social democracy. We take care of the poor. We take care of the sick. At least, we try to, and we have encoded those ideals in our Charter. Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater.
There have always been radicals that believe everything is evil and want to smash the status quo. It is my firm belief that this radicalism is itself a great evil, perhaps the greatest. What is needed are slow, successive, gradual, intelligent changes -- not revolutions.
The current formula is very good. It can be improved, but not by revolution.
Money itself is one of the greatest inventions of mankind. Money itself has no value. The value is that it's a means of exchange that allows people to trade in mutually beneficial ways. The beauty of money is that it is not wealth. People who hoard money literally deny nothing to others, because their money must be stored somewhere, and where it is stored it will be recirculated. Hoarding actual wealth does deny others, but few do this to an extent that causes great harm. Most of the harm in the world is done through negligence, ill will, or desire to dominate. Not because of money.
Money is the root of all civilization. Money respects free will and fair exchange.
The nature of a corporation is a reflection of the nature of the shareholders. If the shareholders are STS, the corporation will be STS. If the shareholders are STO, the corporation will be STO.
The corporation itself is the most effective way for a group of inspired people to achieve something. There are corporations where service to humanity is placed as a higher goal than profit. They really exist. Usually they are small, but there are some big ones too.
"So long as men live together on earth and need means to deal with one another – their only substitute, if they abandon money, is the muzzle of a gun."