Removing the veil of separation

[Ming the Merciful]

@Ming the Merciful You bring up an important point about experiencing reality without concepts. Spiritual teacher Shunymurti has mentioned that there is a trans-conceptual state of awareness possible. I think in theory that's possible, even to the point of being able to perform practical tasks without thinking yet still being aware.

I have an idea of the Nothingness as meaning that reality is made of only relations. So there is no substance at the fundamental level of reality. I have a sense of being able to get a more direct and practical experience of it. It's still mostly only intellectual understanding I have. Concepts are like pointers that may or may not be true. Nonduality teacher Ramesh Balsekar said that everything he said, everything any teacher has said at anytime, everything in scriptures, are concepts.

I believe concepts can be useful as pointers, as a guiding tool towards actual realization of what the concepts point to. And it's also useful I think when or if a breaking through the veil happens, it allows a smoother adjustment to the new level of consciousness than without spiritual conceptual knowledge.

Nothingness is that, and nothing more. At some point we must decide whether we accept the teachings of others, or, the "Eternal Truth" that already lies within us. I am not condemning the Ancient Masters because they brought Wisdom and Knowledge and much can be learned from them. As the Buddha said, at one point we must find our own Path, or in other words learn the Eternal Knowledge from our own experience and Wisdom. No matter what Philosophy we follow, it is from another person. Their Enlightenment can never be our Enlightenment, because we did not have their experience. Learn from the Spiritual Masters from the past, but do not cling to them.

I will learn from any Enlightened Master and thank him for his teachings and Wisdom. If he is a true Spiritual Master he will not be offended when you decide he does not have the Ultimate Knowledge to offer you. That can only be found within yourself. As a former member of ISKCON I have discovered many Enlightened Masters in India, and I will do a search of Shunymurti later. I am curious? Although if he is a true Spiritual Master, then his Knowledge will be the same. UNIVERSAL KNOWLEDGE is UNIVERSAL KNOWLEDGE.