09-30-2009, 01:45 PM
(09-30-2009, 12:08 PM)3D Sunset Wrote: Hi Lavazza,
A lot to talk about here. I'd like to take in bite size pieces, if that's okay.
Certainly!
3D Sunset Wrote:Hmmm. What you say here could get us caught up the instantaneous / gradual debate, but I won't take the bait... I think of the time around 2012 as being like the sunset of 3D (hence my username). But just as the sky doesn't get dark immediately after the sun sinks below the horizon, so too will the 3D light not blink out immediately, it will attenuate over time. During this twilight, which will last several hundred years, I think that both dual activated 3D/4D bodies as well as single activated 3D bodies will continue to live and thrive. I do tend to believe that only dual activated bodies will incarnate after that time, and through the increased intensity of 4D light, an evolutionary spark will happen that will transform, through genetic "mutations" (for lack of a better term) 3D bodies into 4D bodies in a fairly short time (1-2 generations).
Hmmm, hmmm. Lets consider your sunset analogy a bit more though. Lets imagine that there are actually two suns to make our analogy closer to density changes. Suppose that these two suns are in a position such that when we see one set, another rises, so that we are never without light regardless of what time of day we are at. The 3rd/4th density transition could be said to encompass that span of time where one sun (3rd d.) begins to set and the other sun (4th d.) begins to rise. At some discrete or specific point, the 4th d. sun will be close enough to rising to begin spilling photos in to our atmosphere and provide illumination. At that exact same time, the light from the 3rd d. sun will begin to lessen as it gets closer to the horizon. Note that at that exact time, the 3rd d. sun is still completely in the sky and the 4th d. sun is not visibly discernible at all. That specific point is, I believe, Dec 21st. 2012. (or to avoid debate, lets say the 2011-2013 range).
Now then, the question is, what do we do with 4th density sunlight, even if it's just a few photons to start with? Your argument is basically that 100% 3rd density wired bodies don't use it at all, and eventually that entity just passes out of the world as the sub-logos shifts it's population to 3rd/4th d. activated bodies. But, lets look at this from another perspective, and ask this question: What do we do with the ever increasing lack of 3rd density light? Or to step outside the analogy, what does the 3rd density entity do as the 3rd density vibrations become less and less? Can it even happen? I would suspect that at any given instant of life, the design would be such that all entities have 100% light to work with at all times, be it 100% 3rd density, or 99.9% 3rd d. and 0.1% 4th d. It seems more elegant to always be working with the same level of vibration, regardless if it is completely one type of vibration or a composite of two.
I think there may be weight to my idea that if you are in the presence of any 4th d. light whatsoever, you must be wired to work with it in some capacity, rather than ignoring it, for otherwise you would be living with less and less light then you had when you were younger.
And, what evidence is there that you are not dual-activated?

Certainly we will see more dual-activation as time goes on, I just suspect that this process started a while earlier then you think. Possibly the last 100% 3rd density entities are on their way out of the picture now, in these last couple of years. Of course this all happens in the background and nobody is consciously aware of it, and is agreed to well in advance of incarnation, so no freewill violation takes place.
3D Sunset Wrote:So, I disagree with part of your premise. I don't think that everyone who's alive now, or even in 20-50 years is or will be dual activated. As I mentioned in my previous post that you quoted, I think that everyone is here with a specific agenda, and they will not leave until the agenda is given an opportunity to play out in the form of preplanned catalysts. From this perspective 2012 will simply be another day, just as Jesus' birth and death were just "other days" to those alive at the time. Only in retrospect have we assigned enough significance to them to start counting our years from then. (By the way, I do think that over time, the year 2012 will become regarded as year 0).
I agree. Basically I expect 2012 to be a non-event for those expecting all the various disaster scenarios to play out. And I agree, significance will very likely come about in retrospect years and years later.
3D Sunset Wrote:As to dual activation, you are certainly of the right age (as are many at this web site, myself not included) to have a dual activated body, but I wouldn't presuppose it of anyone
. By the same token, your children are quite likely dual activated, and that I presume is an important reason that you chose each other as family members, and probably an important reason that you found this site and this community in which to learn/teach and teach/learn (in preparation for doing much more so with your family).
But how does one come to such a conclusion? Has Ra spoken to a certain period where dual-activation begins? Our age difference is not so great that I think we would have a different activation status, and certainly our commonality that we'll both live to see 2012 and beyond makes a case (in my opinion!) that we are both dual-activated, as is anyone whose pre-incarnative plan was to live up to 2012 and/or afterward.
3D Sunset Wrote:I'll save some thoughts on what it may mean to be dual activated for my next post. Thanks for stating the thread. I've attempted similar discussion in the past (on this and DC website), but haven't had much traction so far. Given that there are at least two of us interested in the topic though, at least we can have a dialog.
At the least, yes. I've been a bit dismayed these last few weeks as activity on the forum has dropped for some reason. Of course that's meant an increase in my production at work...
, but I wouldn't presuppose it of anyone