01-15-2019, 05:00 PM
(08-29-2017, 12:00 PM)ScottK Wrote: Socialism and communism and their epic failures are solely about the corruption of "who controls the money".
Socialism and communism were spectacularly successful wherever they were applied. They brought entire countries from mud huts to apartments, illiteracy to space age, pariah to superpower within the same generation.
They are only epic failures in incessant propaganda that capitalist system's conditioning/brainwashing vehicles must administer to its populace. And if the populace doesnt buy it for whatsoever reason, the last resort of 'evil' accusation must be raised. Just like a religion, and just like how the church once used to do for anything that could have upset the control of the established elite (then aristocracy) over the populace.
Quote:I would considering crowdfunding to be a flattening of the capital raising process - cutting out the middlemen, and removing layers of corruption
In capitalism, the right of the capital holder to hold however much capital he can hold and to use it however he may want are sacred. You cannot 'cut the middlemen' or flatten the capital raising process. Flattening the capital raising process means distributing and equalizing the ownership, which is more egalitarian, which is more socialist. It may easily end up in cooperatives.
Your desire contradicts with what religion you subscribe to. For capitalism has become a religion.
Quote:It's the people determining what ventures should be financed, rather than a fund manager managing other people's money.
You are going to curb the rightful power of the big capital holder which he rightfully owns per capitalism, and distribute decision-making power to the people? That's socialism.
No, really, that's socialism.
Quote:Effective capitalism is all about honesty..
Capitalism is about the capital holders doing whatever free action they may want to do to raise their capital and its control to whatever level they desire. Its about freedom.
Quote:That said, we need capitalism now because we need fast innovation.
Then we should shut down this forum, privatize open source software repositories, privatize entire internet infrastructure, sell them to the highest bidder.
For, the egalitarian environment which you are enjoying by communist open source methodology cutting software development costs to zero, letting people just take software from the common resource and install a forum like this here, while socialist egalitarian distributed internet gives you easy connectivity without paying an arm and a leg to any potential private feudal overlord of your internet backbone, are all totally contradictory with the principles of capitalism.
Your desires and preferences, again, contradict with what religion you advocate.
Quote:The structure of our economy is currently aligned with 4th Density NEGATIVE principles, and to break out of this, we will need technologies that remove us from centralized systems quickly (the centralized systems will fall apart quickly when things start breaking).
Another contradiction - your current system has been as capitalist as possible after the social-democratization of post ww2 period were undone. And you call it aligned with negative principles.
What's more, in capitalism the bigger players naturally and rightfully concentrate ownership. Its their freedom to do so. Preventing from doing that is intervening in their property rights, and their freedom of ownership.
You are advocating socialization of the economy by advocating flattening the ownership structures and distributing decision-making while at the same time calling it capitalism.
Contradiction.