(05-23-2019, 06:06 PM)anagogy Wrote:(05-23-2019, 06:00 PM)Glow Wrote: I hesitate to even join this discussion but if Peterson champions freedom, how is it he believes in and promotes enforced monogamy.
That seems counter to freedom so he isn't really a champion of freedom just his freedom. I really don't want to get into a discussion about him, it took 6 months for my computer to stop suggesting him in searches last time I typed his name, but it seems worth pointing out his own biases toward control.
It's all good I am not going to vilify the guy for having biases. I just do not think he is a great example of someone who is championing freedom. He also did grossly misrepresent the changes that were made to include trans people in the charter of rights.
See, this is a prime example of what I was talking about before.
Your misunderstanding enforced monogamy, he said "culturally enforced monogamy". Meaning, society promotes monogamy. That's all. Not that you are forced into marriage. A lot of people have been taking a small sound bite of him saying that and taking it completely out of context to ideologically try to silence him.
I haven't taken sound bites I looked into this because it is actually personal to me I know he promotes the idea of the culture using shame to keep to his ideal of monogamy not law still it's promoting a lack of freedom.
Why is his ideal still ok if it infringes on others freedom? I have only been with two people in my life, so not some compulsive nympho or anything but am poly in the regard that I fully love more than one as a life mate. That is I am and always will be in love with two men.
I don't honestly see why this is something he thinks needs to be curtailed, just because it would mean an evolution in society away from our current paradigm of insulated/tribalistic families verse what could be an interconnected infinite grid of people loving who they love and not having to fight loving anyone else they love. Every one supported, no one alone because no one has to chose just one..
I realize most people aren't game for that but I still think it's bizarre he can be used as someone speaking for freedom when one of his largest speaking points is enforcing the current paradigm of his preference. That is an attempt to control, spreading that message to his very loyal followers is an attempt to spread the reach of his preference. Why is his attempt to push a control upon others ok but him trans people not wanting to be harassed is infringement of freedom.
Just doesn't feel very balanced.