12-27-2014, 07:32 PM,
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Phases of this forum
These are the phases as I remember them.
First there was an older gentleman and a few young 'whipper snappers' aggressively beating each other over the head with the Law of One. These arguments were long and a little aggressive and also included sometimes forums going into the transcient 'conspiracy area'.
Then was the Bring4thMonica/ Unity100 phase, where abstract arguments took on a whole other level of emotional energy. This also, related although perhaps not at the same time, became Monica's Veganism, and 3D monkey and others who had a more lighthearted frame of mind.
Then was the ahktu- Brittany Lynn phase, and me acting in a certain vibration. Where psychic things were compassionately discussed, this later became where the interest in the dark got a little overboard and some heated arguments that did seem to have a resolution seemed to come in.
Then came the phase which, although there were many others, sort of became the 'Fang phase'. Also Adonai was there at that time although not directly related. In general, because of the aggressive arguments there was a kind of tense feel on the forum because there were certain areas where people just could not go. There was a sort of political 'vibration' that was being discussed, but with Adonai's and Ankh's ongoing argument and other of these discussions, people subconsciously I think stayed away from these areas. There was a massive discussion on all these areas. This was also the Geminiwolf phase. Where Gemini was posting a lot offering non political and creative posts.
Now we seem to be in a phase of relative balance. Some things are discussed, to me it seems as though there is more of a subtle/ feminine and extra terrestrial sort of vibration. There is less conflict and posts are quite supportive. Transcient areas are discussed without any conflict. Perhaps because no one is pretending that things are not the way they are and people don't have any fight left.
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12-27-2014, 08:52 PM,
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RE: Phases of this forum
that was funny
i wonder what phase will come next...
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12-29-2014, 02:09 AM,
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RE: Phases of this forum
(12-28-2014, 09:46 PM)Phoenix Wrote: (12-28-2014, 12:05 AM)Ankh Wrote: I feel that it's harmonious here too now. Nice to enjoy some peace. 
I think it's a kind of cowed peace. Anyway, you were worse than Adonai in my view, or at least as bad, so why the need for peace? Although to be fair I had a friend that I put up with rants from and he turned out to possibly be a little negatively polarised. Although I can't be sure.
Aha! Would you like me to stir up some trouble, my friend?
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12-29-2014, 09:55 AM,
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RE: Phases of this forum
(12-28-2014, 11:16 PM)Ankh Wrote: Worse or as bad at what?
Worse than Adonai in the creation of conflict. He was only young and mildly eccentric in my view.
(12-29-2014, 02:09 AM)Unbound Wrote: Aha! Would you like me to stir up some trouble, my friend?
ha!
No Tanner, I would like you to start a blog!
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12-29-2014, 12:09 PM,
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RE: Phases of this forum
(12-29-2014, 02:09 AM)Unbound Wrote: (12-28-2014, 09:46 PM)Phoenix Wrote: (12-28-2014, 12:05 AM)Ankh Wrote: I feel that it's harmonious here too now. Nice to enjoy some peace. 
I think it's a kind of cowed peace. Anyway, you were worse than Adonai in my view, or at least as bad, so why the need for peace? Although to be fair I had a friend that I put up with rants from and he turned out to possibly be a little negatively polarised. Although I can't be sure.
Aha! Would you like me to stir up some trouble, my friend?
looks like he's doing a fine job of that himself to me
(12-29-2014, 09:55 AM)Phoenix Wrote: (12-28-2014, 11:16 PM)Ankh Wrote: Worse or as bad at what?
Worse than Adonai in the creation of conflict. He was only young and mildly eccentric in my view.
http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=9910&pid=167987#pid167987
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12-29-2014, 03:00 PM,
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RE: Phases of this forum
(12-27-2014, 07:32 PM)Phoenix Wrote: Then was the Bring4thMonica/ Unity100 phase, where abstract arguments took on a whole other level of emotional energy. This also, related although perhaps not at the same time, became Monica's Veganism, and 3D monkey and others who had a more lighthearted frame of mind.
First, I don't agree with the phases. I also don't agree with your interpretations of who instigated what.
However, I wish we could go back to the so-called Monica/Unity phase, which happened before I joined. There was raw honesty and out-of-the-box opinions.
I am a polite person, but I also like to be authentic. The shutting down of the meat thread because we couldn't play like nice children was a mistake in my opinion. I simply don't think, as many new-agers do, that anger and other reactive emotions are bad and must be suppressed. I learned the most from this forum in the midst of conflict.
There are lines that get crossed occasionally. 3D Monkey did that, and I would say while he was sometimes lighthearted, he was often mean.
But conflict is good. It's catalyst. That's how we grow, if we are open to it. It forces us to look deep inside for our truth.
So, I for one, don't want forced peaceful, nice, everything is hunky dory, advanced people don't get riled, walking on eggshells threads and posts. I want authenticity and truth. I want to learn from being here and interacting with intelligent and contemplative people.
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12-29-2014, 03:20 PM,
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RE: Phases of this forum
There was a certain stagnation to the Unity 100 phase. And, I felt, a kind of dark humour in everyone trying very hard to be nice to someone who refused to be agreeable at all.
It's too abstract for me. I like the current phase because people have addressed the question with David now and so we can move towards being able to process conflict, but the forum is a nice place with no nastiness. I like the 'soft' feminine energy and extra terrestrial vibe. Extra terrestrial meaning that meanings are starting to be seen through. I did wonder at how the forum was becoming with political ideas before the Fang phase, but that's gone now.
3D monkey was probably awful. But I found Monica and you especially very unwavering in your vegetarian zealotry. I do find a kind of unpleasantness to real conflict like that that once you have started arguing, if the other person doesn't back down and assaults you then you simply have to continue and it swallows SO much energy.
Like I say, I like the forum now. Isis, Jade, Unbound, Spaced, Bring4th GLB. None of these people are out to get everyone else. But if Adonai, Fang, Monika and Unity 100 all came back for a pow- wow I wouldn't argue with their right to do so.
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12-29-2014, 04:22 PM,
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RE: Phases of this forum
(12-29-2014, 03:00 PM)Diana Wrote: (12-27-2014, 07:32 PM)Phoenix Wrote: Then was the Bring4thMonica/ Unity100 phase, where abstract arguments took on a whole other level of emotional energy. This also, related although perhaps not at the same time, became Monica's Veganism, and 3D monkey and others who had a more lighthearted frame of mind.
First, I don't agree with the phases. I also don't agree with your interpretations of who instigated what.
However, I wish we could go back to the so-called Monica/Unity phase, which happened before I joined. There was raw honesty and out-of-the-box opinions.
I am a polite person, but I also like to be authentic. The shutting down of the meat thread because we couldn't play like nice children was a mistake in my opinion. I simply don't think, as many new-agers do, that anger and other reactive emotions are bad and must be suppressed. I learned the most from this forum in the midst of conflict.
There are lines that get crossed occasionally. 3D Monkey did that, and I would say while he was sometimes lighthearted, he was often mean.
But conflict is good. It's catalyst. That's how we grow, if we are open to it. It forces us to look deep inside for our truth.
So, I for one, don't want forced peaceful, nice, everything is hunky dory, advanced people don't get riled, walking on eggshells threads and posts. I want authenticity and truth. I want to learn from being here and interacting with intelligent and contemplative people.
Aha Maybe it's you who wants me to stir up some trouble, then?
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12-29-2014, 05:51 PM,
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RE: Phases of this forum
(12-29-2014, 09:55 AM)Phoenix Wrote: (12-28-2014, 11:16 PM)Ankh Wrote: Worse or as bad at what?
Worse than Adonai in the creation of conflict. He was only young and mildly eccentric in my view.
Lol! And I'm just old and extremely eccentric in your view?
I'm going to abandon this thread now, brother Phoenix. To each their own, and whatever you speak of, I don't see it. I see peaceful and harmonious atmosphere here right now and not the cowed silence as you expressed it. For now, in my fallible and subjective opinion, the only one who creates disharmony for the moment is you. But I'm sure you have good reasons for that and intensive catalysts to deal with. So, good luck to you, my brother. Lots of love!
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12-30-2014, 11:12 AM,
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RE: Phases of this forum
I think it is a good time to have some peace, like you said bluebell if this is what you ment - we all have enough conflict in our daily lives, I find this place somewhat as a sanctuary. I am not saying that disagreements or conflict isn't unwelcome, but for the most part there is a higher perspective and energy to disagreements here, not fully without personal investment though as we are still in 3rd density complex. Peace is great, but saying what is on your mind is greater, and if people speak here truly to who they are then that is great service to us all, and if conflict does arise let us all learn from it.
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12-30-2014, 03:26 PM,
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RE: Phases of this forum
(12-29-2014, 04:22 PM)Unbound Wrote: Aha Maybe it's you who wants me to stir up some trouble, then? 
Stir away, dear Unbound.
(12-29-2014, 05:51 PM)Ankh Wrote: I'm going to abandon this thread now, brother Phoenix. To each their own, and whatever you speak of, I don't see it. I see peaceful and harmonious atmosphere here right now and not the cowed silence as you expressed it. For now, in my fallible and subjective opinion, the only one who creates disharmony for the moment is you. But I'm sure you have good reasons for that and intensive catalysts to deal with. So, good luck to you, my brother. Lots of love!
This is exactly what I'm talking about. Instead of resolving and discovering and discussing and letting truth surface, it's so easy to avoid it to maintain "peace and harmony." In What the Bleep, the theologian described this perfectly: affirmations said are fine, but if they are covering up negativity, it's like a thin sheet of ice over a lake.
There is not peace and harmony if it's only on the surface or said to be that. One can't avoid conflict forever. If anyone here aside from Phoenix studies astrology, you will know this. As the planets transit your chart, you can ignore issues all you want until finally Pluto takes care of them for you (death and regeneration, not necessarily literally).
And I don't see Phoenix as creating disharmony, personally. Are we all supposed to be la-la land new-agers who only spout love and light? I know SO many like this. And I see them as very little different than religious people—following a dogma without actually searching for the truth themselves.
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12-30-2014, 05:50 PM,
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RE: Phases of this forum
Technically it was me who withdrew first. There was a post where Ankh went on at Adonai that irked me back in the day, and rather than bring it up I withdrew.
I am a little surprised that no one is addressing the Wilcock issue, not just here, but on facebook as well. I posted on facebook something like 'Hey Carla, was that David Wilcock you were talking about?' In more words and no one even 'liked' the status. It's like living in a vacuum. I mean, is this not important? It seems like there is some sort of fear. Don't say anything against David Wilcock and Carla, don't pit them against each other over an event that could have HAPPENED. NO NO NO. Put it back in its box.
And here's me saying out loud. Hey, this happened. Look at this. (Picture of a crazy haired alcoholic pointing at a pink elephant.) Look here. Hey, can I draw on it. Hey, guys, why you ignoring me?
To be honest, no wonder the Illuminati have done so much damage. I feel like I'm becoming a revolutionary now! But then, who is there to lead?
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12-30-2014, 05:53 PM,
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RE: Phases of this forum
It doesn't seem like it's really about David Wilcock and Carla, but rather it appears to be about you and your need for some kind of conclusion, no?
I am not really sure what this revolves around. So you think David Wilcock tried to convince Carla he was a Ra Wanderer and he failed her challenge? Even if that is true, what are you trying to accomplish by seeking to "pit them against eachother"? Are you hoping one of them is going to be debunked or seen as a fraud?
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12-30-2014, 06:25 PM,
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RE: Phases of this forum
WHY does it matter though?
(Asking for clarity.)
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12-30-2014, 08:50 PM,
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RE: Phases of this forum
(12-27-2014, 08:52 PM)isis Wrote: that was funny
i wonder what phase will come next...
i think we're currently experiencing the phoenix phase
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12-30-2014, 08:54 PM,
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RE: Phases of this forum
(12-30-2014, 03:26 PM)Diana Wrote: (12-29-2014, 05:51 PM)Ankh Wrote: I'm going to abandon this thread now, brother Phoenix. To each their own, and whatever you speak of, I don't see it. I see peaceful and harmonious atmosphere here right now and not the cowed silence as you expressed it. For now, in my fallible and subjective opinion, the only one who creates disharmony for the moment is you. But I'm sure you have good reasons for that and intensive catalysts to deal with. So, good luck to you, my brother. Lots of love!
This is exactly what I'm talking about. Instead of resolving and discovering and discussing and letting truth surface, it's so easy to avoid it to maintain "peace and harmony." In What the Bleep, the theologian described this perfectly: affirmations said are fine, but if they are covering up negativity, it's like a thin sheet of ice over a lake.
There is not peace and harmony if it's only on the surface or said to be that. One can't avoid conflict forever. If anyone here aside from Phoenix studies astrology, you will know this. As the planets transit your chart, you can ignore issues all you want until finally Pluto takes care of them for you (death and regeneration, not necessarily literally).
And I don't see Phoenix as creating disharmony, personally. Are we all supposed to be la-la land new-agers who only spout love and light? I know SO many like this. And I see them as very little different than religious people—following a dogma without actually searching for the truth themselves.
What if... It just doesn't matter to me, dear sister? What if I just simply don't care what people think or say about me? And that the reason to why I leave this thread is because I already said everything that I wanted to say on this subject, but also that when asking for clarity I understood that none would be there...? Would it matter for you and change your opinion......?
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12-30-2014, 09:40 PM,
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RE: Phases of this forum
Btw, since we are talking about Monica, there is something I want to mention in regards to this forum - Treehuggers Treehouse! That is her creation, her idea, and her manifestation! This is her legacy! How about THAT?
May be some members remember her in regards to something else, but may be they need a reminder about THAT - Treehuggers Treehouse was completely her creation, her idea, and her manifesttion, and how awesome didn't that turned out to be?!
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12-30-2014, 11:23 PM,
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RE: Phases of this forum
(12-29-2014, 03:00 PM)Diana Wrote: There are lines that get crossed occasionally. 3D Monkey did that, and I would say while he was sometimes lighthearted, he was often mean.
3DMonkey is sorely missed. I don't think he necessarily crossed any lines..just got kind of tired of dealing with certain things.
I have to say, especially when you go back and read some of his posts, that it would always seem like he was making very simple statements, but I think he had a significant grasp of the material and things would just go over our heads. And I think he understood because he has a big 'ole heart.
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