social memory complex complex

[Bluebell]

this question might be little silly... if after Earth turns into a social memory complex, & all become one entity, is the next step for social memory complexes to form a social memory complex complex? do social memory complexes hang out? do they argue? do they fall in love?   

[Minyatur]

Social memory complexes are a 4D phomena and is rarely hapenning in 3D. In 5D they can be useful but you do your own learning of Wisdom either with or without your social memory conplex, but in 6D it becomes necessary again. One can harvest in an existing social memory complex rather than becoming one with his own sphere. But 4D and 6D graduate as a complex and not as individuals.

Ra: I am Ra. A mind/body/spiritsocial complex becomes asocial memory complex when its entire group of entities are of one orientation or seeking. The group memorylost to the individuals in the roots of the tree of mind then become[s] known to the social complex, thus creating a social memory complex. The advantages of this complex are the relative lack of distortion in understanding the social beingness and the relative lack of distortion in pursuing the direction of seeking, for all understanding/distortions are available to the entities of the society

Ra: I am Ra. [Bang outside.] The basic purpose [loud rapping] of a social memory complex is that of evolution. Beyond a certain point the evolution of spirit is quite dependent upon the understanding of self and other-self as Creator. This constitutes the basis forsocial complexes. When brought to maturity, they become social memory complexes. The fourth density and sixth density find these quite necessary. The fifth positive uses social memory [more rapping] in attaining wisdom, though this is done individually. In fifth negative much is done without aid of others. This is [doorbell in background] the last query as this instrument needs to be [doorbell in background] protected from depletion. Are there brief queries before [doorbell in background] we close?

Ra: I am Ra. This is correct although in fifth density entities may choose to learn as a social memorycomplex or as mind/body/spirit complexes and may graduate to sixth density under these conditions, for the wisdom density is an extremely free density whereas the lessons of compassion leading to wisdom necessarily have to do with other-selves.

Questioner: Then is sixth-density harvest strictly of social memory complex because again we have compassion blended back using wisdom?

Ra: I am Ra. This is quite correct.

[Steppingfeet]

According to Ra, (I think it's important to note that so many of our statements in this forum are based solely on the testimony of Ra, a source we find credible and trustworthy, no doubt, but nevertheless I think it helpful to occasionally preface statements with according to Ra, rather than speaking in terms of what is and is not when talking about things which we, walking the surface of this planet, generally and simply do not know, and cannot, at least under present circumstances, verify)... so what was I saying... according to Ra, the only trans-social memory complex grouping mentioned are empires and confederations.

This is not to preclude the possibility of multiple SMC's merging into a larger, single SMC, but there is no mention of this in the epic conversation that the Questioner had with Ra.

In the 7th or 8th density all social memory complexes do seem to merge together, though, in that they return to the All, shedding any vestige of personal identity/memory/history.

[AnthroHeart]

I think we are part of a complex, but it's unconscious. The Internet makes us more of a complex.

It's the collective unconscious. We are all connected as they say.

[Bluebell]

According to Ra, (I think it's important to note that so many of our statements in this forum are based solely on the testimony of Ra, a source we find credible and trustworthy, no doubt, but nevertheless I think it helpful to occasionally preface statements with according to Ra, rather than speaking in terms of what is and is not when talking about things which we, walking the surface of this planet, generally and simply do not know, and cannot, at least under present circumstances, verify)... so what was I saying... according to Ra, the only trans-social memory complex grouping mentioned are empires and confederations.

This is not to preclude the possibility of multiple Social Memory Complex's merging into a larger, single Social Memory Complex, but there is no mention of this in the epic conversation that the Questioner had with Ra.

In the 7th or 8th density all social memory complexes do seem to merge together, though, in that they return to the All, shedding any vestige of personal identity/memory/history.

thanks. i guess that makes sense. (& yeah according to Ra goes w/o saying imo.)

is an empire negative or neutral a term?

[anagogy]

this question might be little silly... if after Earth turns into a social memory complex, & all become one entity, is the next step for social memory complexes to form a social memory complex complex? do social memory complexes hang out? do they argue? do they fall in love?   

In my opinion, there are different stages of social memory.  The social memory of 4th density is different from the social memory of say 5th density or 6th density.

As the density evolution continues, the personal self is gradually abandoned in favor of the collective self.  By the time 6th density rolls around, you no longer perceive any difference between one aspect of the complex and another.  The area where all social memory complexes come together as One is 7th density.

And I'm sure that social memory complexes discuss things (telepathically) with other social memory complexes, and probably, occasionally have disagreements about a particular matter or another.  And as for falling in love, yes, but not in a human sense.  They are falling in love with oneness, and to the degree that their vibrational harmonics match up with other complexes, the oneness intensifies, which is all love is, really, when you get right down to it.

[AnthroHeart]

Progress in 6D must indeed be difficult if you see no separation between another self and you.

[Parsons]

I would like to share my thoughts on this subject in general... Might diverge from the OP a slight bit.

My personal understanding of how social memory complexes work is you retain your individuality within the complex, but you can access memories / experiences of other members. To make an analogy, its like hooking your computer up to the internet: your computer is still an individual computer (it doesn't "merge" with the internet into one giant computer), but has access to all the information on the internet. Yet viruses and other software could make virtually all computers connected work together on some task... A good example of this is SETI@home.

Other than than, I have always wondered how social memory complexes interact with each other... I'm sure individual people from different complexes talk to each other, but I wonder if there are ever events where an entire complex diverts it's attention on another complex or one task for whatever reason?

[anagogy]

Progress in 6D must indeed be difficult if you see no separation between another self and you.

Why would that make it difficult?  

Isn't absence of separation the measure of progress in the first place?  The only difference between the densities is the amount of separation that is present.  If anything, it makes progress even easier because one becomes ever closer to seeing all things as one.

[AnthroHeart]

Progress in 6D must indeed be difficult if you see no separation between another self and you.

Why would that make it difficult?  

Isn't absence of separation the measure of progress in the first place?  The only difference between the densities is the amount of separation that is present.  If anything, it makes progress even easier because one becomes ever closer to seeing all things as one.

What I meant to say is it's probably hard to discern if there's no contrast.

[Plenum]

speaking to Parson's point, the key factor in a social memory complex is the memory portion:

11.17 Questioner: At what stage does a planet achieve social memory?

Ra: I am Ra. A mind/body/spirit social complex becomes a social memory complex when its entire group of entities are of one orientation or seeking.

The group memory lost to the individuals in the roots of the tree of mind then become[s] known to the social complex, thus creating a social memory complex. The advantages of this complex are the relative lack of distortion in understanding the social beingness and the relative lack of distortion in pursuing the direction of seeking, for all understanding/distortions are available to the entities of the society.

speaking to the nature of the Confederation, and why social memory complexes would work together:

16.32 Questioner: Thank you very much. Can you tell me how the Confederation of Planets was formed and why?

Ra: I am Ra. The desire to serve begins, in the dimension of love or understanding, to be an overwhelming goal of the social memory complex. Thus, those percentiles of planetary entities, plus approximately four percent more of whose identity we cannot speak, found themselves long, long ago in your time seeking the same thing: service to others. The relationship between these entities as they entered an understanding of other beings, other planetary entities, and other concepts of service was to share and continue together these commonly held goals of service.

Thus, each voluntarily placed the social memory complex data in what you may consider a central thought complex available to all.

This then created a structure whereby each entity could work in its own service while calling upon any other understandings needed to enhance the service. This is the cause of the formation and the manner of the working of the Confederation.

[anagogy]

What I meant to say is it's probably hard to discern if there's no contrast.

There is contrast there, but you wouldn't perceive it from a 3rd density vantage point.  From our perspective it would be an infinitely subtle contrast, unperceivable by our clumsy sensory systems.  To 6D entities it is not so subtle, and what they perceive as contrast are undercurrents of nonacceptance -- slight imbalances of the precise emissions of love/light and light/love.

In fourth density, the individuality remains more or less intact, in addition to the societal self, so there are two perspectives of consciousness.  In fifth density, there remains two perspectives but new dimensions of mental freedom are being explored (and even the option of not being in a social memory complex for the duration of fifth density), and in sixth density, the individuated perspective is more or less deliberately abandoned in favor of the societal self (which blends all the individual distortions into one big melting pot so to speak).  The complex of entities becomes one entity.  This is why Ra says "I am Ra" rather than "We are Ra".  They perceive themselves as a singular entity -- a multidimensional and infinitely faceted entity for sure, but a singular entity nonetheless.

[AnthroHeart]

In 6D you can smooth distortions simply with thought. There must be a lot of distortions if it takes millions of years to progress through 6D.

Isn't oneness obtained when all individual distortions are smoothed?

[anagogy]

In 6D you can smooth distortions simply with thought. There must be a lot of distortions if it takes millions of years to progress through 6D.

Isn't oneness obtained when all individual distortions are smoothed?

Not just individual distortions, all distortions.  Oneness is distortion free.  But just because you have distortions doesn't mean you cannot experience oneness.  It just means you partake less purely in oneness than if the distortions weren't there.

Sometimes, and in fact most of the time, distortions are smoothed by melding with others.  Another's distortions are complementary to your own distortions.  You balance them, they balance you.  The melding of many is more than the sum of the parts.  

So you're correct, distortion is separation, but how they are smoothed looks different on every density level, even if the process is the same.  In some way, it always looks the same though.  It always looks like beings coming together for a common purpose.  Love is the steam roller for all distortions.

[Shawnna]

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Love is the steam roller for all distortions.

I confess that so much of what is discussed on Bring4th is hard for me to follow and comprehend.

But this............. resonates quite deeply.

Thank you!

[Minyatur]

Progress in 6D must indeed be difficult if you see no separation between another self and you.

Why would that make it difficult?  

Isn't absence of separation the measure of progress in the first place?  The only difference between the densities is the amount of separation that is present.  If anything, it makes progress even easier because one becomes ever closer to seeing all things as one.

I tend to think that Gemini Wolf is right on this, 6D with a lack of seperateness could hinder growth making it much slower. Isn't this why most Wander?

Ra: I am Ra. The Wanderer has the potential of greatly accelerating the density whence it comes in its progress in evolution. This is due to the intensive life experiences and opportunities of the third density. Thusly the positively oriented Wanderer chooses to hazard the danger of the forgetting in order to be of service to others by radiating love of others. If the forgetting is penetrated the amount of catalyst in third density will polarize the Wanderer with much greater efficiency than shall be expected in the higher and more harmonious densities.

[Bring4th_Austin]

I would like to share my thoughts on this subject in general... Might diverge from the OP a slight bit.

My personal understanding of how social memory complexes work is you retain your individuality within the complex, but you can access memories / experiences of other members. To make an analogy, its like hooking your computer up to the internet: your computer is still an individual computer (it doesn't "merge" with the internet into one giant computer), but has access to all the information on the internet. Yet viruses and other software could make virtually all computers connected work together on some task... A good example of this is SETI@home.

Other than than, I have always wondered how social memory complexes interact with each other... I'm sure individual people from different complexes talk to each other, but I wonder if there are ever events where an entire complex diverts it's attention on another complex or one task for whatever reason?

I think this is an interesting point in light of the OP, since it would point to a sort of pattern of transcending and including in our evolution of consciousness. The consciousness trascnends the individual to form a social memory complex, but it still includes the individual. Then, given the quote Plenum pointed out about the individual social memory complexes placing offering their "data" to the "central thought complex," the consciousness again transcends the social memory complex to form something greater, but the social memory complex remains.

To add a bit of my own understanding of what it might be like as an individual within the social memory complex, on top of what Parsons says about sharing memories and experiences, I feel like there would necessarily have to be a part of our will shared with the other members as well. Not necessarily an individual will, but a will which distinctly belongs to the entire whole as an entity (without replacing the will of the individual). Acting or creating must rely upon some sort of shared inspiration, where a social memory complex may seamlessly carry out their goals. In other words, the social memory complex may act as a single entity with a single will, while still including the individuals.

[AnthroHeart]

It's amazing that spritual progress takes millions of years in a higher density, when everything is seen more as one.

[Bluebell]

why is everyone in such a fuss&hurry?

[AnthroHeart]

When I'm in a higher density I probably won't be in a hurry.
I'd just rather be somewhere else sometimes.

[Minyatur]

why is everyone in such a fuss&hurry?

Well I thought it was a race...

[Bluebell]

do u get a trophy?

[Minyatur]

do u get a trophy?

You get to teach first

When I read about my astrological sign, it said that Gemini's secret desire is to be ahead of the crowd.

[AnthroHeart]

do u get a trophy?

You get to teach first

When I read about my astrological sign, it said that Gemini's secret desire is to be ahead of the crowd.

That's secret to me too because I never realized that. I would certainly like to do good for the world.

[Steppingfeet]

thanks. i guess that makes sense. (& yeah according to Ra goes w/o saying imo.)

is an empire negative or neutral a term?

Those in favor of empires may see it as a "good", needed, necessary, or beneficial thing. But it is a term that is wholly negative in the sense of being a model of reality built upon the service-to-self philosophy.

Ra describes the negative path as seeking control, manipulation, domination, subjugation, and enslavement of other selves, stealing their power for the increase of ones personal power. An empire is a system of this on a collective level, though with varying degrees of negativity.

It's definition here doesn't examine the concept in depth, but gives an idea:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/empire