Some Questions That You May Be Able To Answer

[Micknet]

I don't know which forum to post this in so I selected this one.

I've read the first Law of One book and I have a number of questions.

1. Before someone moves to the next level does the person / physical body have to die?
2. When the current 75,000 year period is up will a number of people / physical bodies die before they move to the next level?
3. Is the source of the data in the book the Paul Solomon source from the Orion group?
4. Is the source of the data in the book The Only Planet of Choice from the Orion group?
5. Is the source of the data in the book A Course In Miracles from the Orion group?

I'm sure I'll have more questions in the future. Thanks in advance for any replies.

[Namaste]

Welcome :¬)

1. Yes, the third density body is incompatible with fourth density energy.

2. Yes, in a natural manner, no different to any other moment in experience. Although the 75K year cycle ends, space/time existence will continue. When we die of natural causes, we will 'walk the steps of light' and then move to the relevant density.

3 & 4. Not familiar with them.

5. Not sure, although there is a brief discussion on the subject here:

http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=1845

[Spectrum]

4. Is the source of the data in the book The Only Planet of Choice from the Orion group?

Yes, you can read this link:

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/har...ortean.htm

[Micknet]

Links to data on 3,4 and 5.

3.
http://www.paulsolomon.com/books_dvd.html

4. http://www.theonlyplanetofchoice.com/

5. http://www.acim.org/

[Bring4th_Austin]

In regards to number 2, according to Q'uo, there will not be some "mass extinction event" in which many entities will leave this physical reality. We will comfortably live out the rest of our incarnation and when we pass on, we'll be offered the choice to step up to 4D, or continue on in 3D, and you will choose the appropriate path for your soul's evolution. There will be, as we are seeing now, many smaller catastrophes in order for our mother Earth to express the heaviness and pressure our 3D vibrations cause in the shift to 4D. These will decrease in time.

[Spectrum]

In regards to number 2, according to Q'uo, there will not be some "mass extinction event" in which many entities will leave this physical reality. We will comfortably live out the rest of our incarnation and when we pass on, we'll be offered the choice to step up to 4D, or continue on in 3D, and you will choose the appropriate path for your soul's evolution. There will be, as we are seeing now, many smaller catastrophes in order for our mother Earth to express the heaviness and pressure our 3D vibrations cause in the shift to 4D. These will decrease in time.

I just have a little question here, abridgetoofar, but before I ask it I first have to say that I don't subscribe to these ridiculous doomsday theories. It's just that I have a practical mind, and something doesn't add up.

When 3rd density goes into potentiation, and 4th density goes into activation, what's going to happen to all the 3rd density entities? The population keeps growing and growing, and people keep having babies. I think I recall them saying that we will pass the 7 billion mark this year. If everyone will live out their lives naturally, what's going to happen to those still in incarnation when 3rd density goes into potentiation?

Whether it's gradual or sudden (I think I'm with gradual), something will happen that makes 3rd density unviable to live in, at least for the first part of the 4th density cycle, until 4th density have learned to make themselves undetectable to lower densities, when 3rd density might go into activation again.

[Bring4th_Austin]

In regards to number 2, according to Q'uo, there will not be some "mass extinction event" in which many entities will leave this physical reality. We will comfortably live out the rest of our incarnation and when we pass on, we'll be offered the choice to step up to 4D, or continue on in 3D, and you will choose the appropriate path for your soul's evolution. There will be, as we are seeing now, many smaller catastrophes in order for our mother Earth to express the heaviness and pressure our 3D vibrations cause in the shift to 4D. These will decrease in time.

I just have a little question here, abridgetoofar, but before I ask it I first have to say that I don't subscribe to these ridiculous doomsday theories. It's just that I have a practical mind, and something doesn't add up.

When 3rd density goes into potentiation, and 4th density goes into activation, what's going to happen to all the 3rd density entities? The population keeps growing and growing, and people keep having babies. I think I recall them saying that we will pass the 7 billion mark this year. If everyone will live out their lives naturally, what's going to happen to those still in incarnation when 3rd density goes into potentiation?

Whether it's gradual or sudden (I think I'm with gradual), something will happen that makes 3rd density unviable to live in, at least for the first part of the 4th density cycle, until 4th density have learned to make themselves undetectable to lower densities, when 3rd density might go into activation again.

Starting about 30 years ago, dual-activated bodied people have been being born, and more recently, every single entity born is dual-activated. This means that they will be able to handle the full blast of the 4D vibrations. According to Ra and Q'uo, our bodies will gradually become more and more 4D viable by the birthing process (quick evolution) until we are completely 4D running on completely 4D vibrations.

Also, just because 3D vibes stop coming in from the cosmos doesn't mean they disappear completely. They'll linger in thought until we're able to purge them.

Basically, 3D people will still be around and able to sustain from the lingering 3D vibes, but life will be (and is) getting a little tougher for them to deal with in respect of knowing and accepting themselves. Non-awakened individuals will probably spend the later years somewhat lost and confused, but still functioning. The dual-bodied entities have an advantage in dealing with 4D vibrations, making it easier for them during the transition process.

I compiled a pretty extensive thread on the topic of dual-bodied entities which I believe answers your question to a good extent:
http://bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=2544

[Spectrum]

The dual-bodied entities have an advantage in dealing with 4D vibrations, making it easier for them during the transition process.

I'll have to chew on this for a bit. Ra said that dual activated bodies still have to die in a 3rd density sense, so in my mind at some point when 3rd density goes completely into potentiation, there will be people of all ages in incarnation (dual activated or not).

I think a lot of quick evolutionary changes are in store still, that we are yet unaware of.

Also, I'm happy to file this in my 'uncertainties' tray, if needs be. What we 'do' know is enough for me, the exact 'hows and whens' will become apparent as we go along.

When Ra said there are already entities incarnate doing 4th density work, I thought this guy might be one:

Total Recall by Indigo Child Matias De Stefano

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvWAFhWgB...ded#at=571

Matías De Stefano is an Argentinian 22 year old, who could be described as an Indigo child. He has been allowed to activate the area of the brain where all the cosmic memory is registered. His purpose in life is to share his memories with the people, helping these to organize their own information. Also one of his essential missions is to help create a new education that can adapt to the new paradigms of the children of our time.

Matis talks about the mass influx of indigo children who have chosen to incarnate here at this particular time, as well as what to expect with 2012 and how he was able to recall his past lives, which included working with the Akashic Records.

[3DMonkey]

I just posted this in a different thread. It might fit better here. Repeat:

(also, lots of fourth density beings in the inner planes to help out, AND at activation, whenever that will be, there will be lots of loving fourth density incarnations to help out as well)

If your wondering how the planet becomes depopulated without a catastrophic disaster scenerio then the below should offer some insight, particularly highlighting the role of dual-activated entities in making this happen.

http://www.llresearch.org/transcripts/is..._0902.aspx

It would be very dislocating, my brother, for entities of third density to see the full panoply of fourth density as it intersperses with your own. Therefore, there shall not be the manifestation of fourth density until the third-density population of your planet has finished its work here.

It is very difficult for entities to imagine how such a large population, all across your globe, could just shrink and disappear. And yet we say to you that entities moving into incarnation here will more and more be those which are dual-activated until finally, within say one of your centuries by most probability/possibility vortices, you will have no pure third-density entities living upon your planet.

Those with dual-activated bodies are far more able to see whether or not there is the necessity for further incarnations upon this planet. They will begin naturally to refrain from producing children. And so, by a fairly rapid progression after that point, the third-density population of the planet will indeed shrink in a natural and organic way, because there is the awareness that the dusk has come, the evening is at hand, and the work is done.

If I'm not mistaken, Q'uo says all the babies being born recently are dual activated.
We have our fourth child on the way that coincides with two cousin's and two sister's pregnancy. Our third child coincided with two cousin's pregnancies. Our second child coincided with a sister and brother pregnancies. Our first child was a direct gift from God.

Surly the energy waves contributed to this, as they contribute to everything. You know, it is neat to think all these entities knew they would meet together in this family.

[Brittany]

That's interesting, Monkey. I've always had absolutely no desire for children...it's like a strong aversion to the very thought was programmed into me. I wonder if it has to do with what you just posted above?

[3DMonkey]

That's interesting, Monkey. I've always had absolutely no desire for children...it's like a strong aversion to the very thought was programmed into me. I wonder if it has to do with what you just posted above?

We each have our own purpose. My sister is the same as you.

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(she showers my wife and I with love for our "uncanny" ability to do it )

[Spectrum]

Thanks 3D.

[Bring4th_Austin]

The dual-bodied entities have an advantage in dealing with 4D vibrations, making it easier for them during the transition process.

I'll have to chew on this for a bit. Ra said that dual activated bodies still have to die in a 3rd density sense, so in my mind at some point when 3rd density goes completely into potentiation, there will be people of all ages in incarnation (dual activated or not).

Right, there will be plenty of non dual-activated individuals alive when full 4D hits. It isn't necessarily that non dual-activated body individuals won't be able to handle the vibrations, it's that they won't be able to handle them as well.

This is from the thread I linked, from a Q'uo session:

(In response to a question about how dual activated individuals will experience the transition.)
Third density is third density. And while you are in a third-density physical vehicle you will primarily be a third-density entity. The fourth-density activation, however, enables you, far more than those about you, to be tough. We think that is perhaps the simplest way to put that.
The interpenetration of third density with fourth-density energy in the time/space sector of this development is bombarding the Earth with wave after wave of a denser kind of light that brings all entities’ worst fears to the surface and plays them out.
It is a separating device, if you will, between wheat and chaff, in biblical terms. There are tares sown among the harvest of good that you have created in your life[time]. These waves of energy call for the truth from you, and, so, many of you are facing parts of yourself you never wanted to see and at which you don’t want to look.
The fourth-density-activated entities or dual-activated beings are tougher at looking straight in the mirror of the self, seeing the weeds, and deciding on a form of weed control.

So when I say "the dual-bodied entities have an advantage in dealing with 4D vibrations, making it easier for them during the transition process," it's really a direct paraphrase of what Q'uo says here. It's not that these people won't be able to exist in our world, because there are plenty of 3D vibrations left over in thought-form. Also, 3D entities who have already turned down a path of self-reflection will be able to handle it much better than ones who bury their insecurities in the amazing distractions offered by our society. I already know many people who have repressed memories coming up, and intense dreams that shake them to the core.

I think a lot of quick evolutionary changes are in store still, that we are yet unaware of.

Ra was actually pretty specific about the evolutionary changes we have in store, which I have compiled another thread about here: http://bring4th.org/forums/showthread.php?tid=2460

Just a small part of what Ra says:

Ra: I am Ra. At this time the cosmic influxes are conducive to true color green core particles being formed and material of this nature thus being formed. However, there is a mixture of the yellow-ray and green-ray environments at this time necessitating the birthing of transitional mind/body/spirit complex types of energy distortions. At full activation of the true color green density of love the planetary sphere will be solid and inhabitable upon its own and the birthing that takes place will have been transformed through the process of time, shall we say, to the appropriate type of vehicle to appreciate in full the fourth-density planetary environment. At this nexus the green-ray environment exists to a far greater extent in time/space than in space/time.

Basically, when 4D hits, it will be mainly in time/space. We will have to manifest it into space/time in order to create a complete 4D society/reality. While we are doing this, we will be evolving through birth into bodies which are capable of complete 4D activation.

Also, I'm happy to file this in my 'uncertainties' tray, if needs be. What we 'do' know is enough for me, the exact 'hows and whens' will become apparent as we go along.

I think we're all pretty uncertain about what will really happen once 3D vibes stop coming in from the cosmos and "harvest" happens. I personally feel like it will be rather seamless in our space/time reality.

When Ra said there are already entities incarnate doing 4th density work, I thought this guy might be one:

Total Recall by Indigo Child Matias De Stefano

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvWAFhWgB...ded#at=571

Matías De Stefano is an Argentinian 22 year old, who could be described as an Indigo child. He has been allowed to activate the area of the brain where all the cosmic memory is registered. His purpose in life is to share his memories with the people, helping these to organize their own information. Also one of his essential missions is to help create a new education that can adapt to the new paradigms of the children of our time.

Matis talks about the mass influx of indigo children who have chosen to incarnate here at this particular time, as well as what to expect with 2012 and how he was able to recall his past lives, which included working with the Akashic Records.

According to Ra and Q'uo, any dual-activated being is an already harvested 4D being, here to do 4D work. Q'uo says though, in my thread on dual-bodied entities, that even though they are harvested, their choice to incarnate into a mainly 3D environment means they subscribe again to the rules of 3D, including the requirement to polarize.

Indigo children, crystal children, autistic children...I believe these are all 4D beings incarnating to different degrees of 4D activation. To turn a bit personal, my extensive research regarding dual-activated bodies and 4D body evolution has led me to fully believe that I myself am a dual-bodied individual put here to do 4D work. The personal details behind this revelation are far too numerous for me to have had time to describe them yet.

I humbly offer these two threads to you to look through at your own pace. They are quite a read and take some time to absorb, but in compiling them I came to a much greater understanding of how I believe the transition will occur, and I believe that in providing my research I have helped a few other people on this forum find some guidance in the areas you seem to be talking about specifically, that being the 4D transition, dual activated bodies, and 4D body evolution. They are scarce on personal opinion and heavy on information straight from Ra and Q'uo. Here are the links again.

The Nature of Dual Activated Bodies
4D Body Evolution

[Spectrum]

I think we're all pretty uncertain about what will really happen once 3D vibes stop coming in from the cosmos and "harvest" happens. I personally feel like it will be rather seamless in our space/time reality.

I also lean towards something gradual. When Ra explained to Don the ‘birth’ of 3rd density on this planet, it was also a process, and not sudden, with the only difference that 2nd density didn’t go into potentiation, but stayed in activation.

Questioner: Over how long a period of time was this transfiguration? It
must have been very short.
Ra: I am Ra. The assumption is correct, in our terms at least—within a
generation and one-half, as you know these things. Those who had been
harvested of this planet were able to use the newly created physical complex
of chemical elements suitable for third-density lessons.

Questioner: How long was the time of transition from second to thirddensity?
A generation and a half I believe you said. Is that correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct, the time measured in your years being
approximately 1,350.

I humbly offer these two threads to you to look through at your own pace. They are quite a read and take some time to absorb, but in compiling them I came to a much greater understanding of how I believe the transition will occur, and I believe that in providing my research I have helped a few other people on this forum find some guidance in the areas you seem to be talking about specifically, that being the 4D transition, dual activated bodies, and 4D body evolution. They are scarce on personal opinion and heavy on information straight from Ra and Q'uo. Here are the links again.

Thanks abridgetoofar, I will take the time to read, and come back if I have more questions.

[kycahi]

Regarding the duals and how they will experience the Big Switching: I think that they may experience some change effects for awhile (Hmm, isn't a thread talking about that?), and then one morning they will wake up feeling different but better because those change issues have stopped. Voila, no more dual, 4D only.

Meanwhile, some new, exclusively 4D beings may be born to dual mothers. Those mothers will be okay with any physical differences these babies might have, but maybe their appearances will be 3D-ish enough at birth and then evolve over some time to their proper new bodies.

These are random thoughts triggered by this thread. Now I wonder if they are compatible with Ra and Q'uo.