So we've had some heated interactions.
Seems we've unfortunately lost a few members as a result and that sucks.
One of the contentious things was that some of us see not standing up for others and self in the face of injustice as "Silence Implies Consent" while others feel it's better to change inside and not try to stop things from affecting others or self. I'm not judging here just want to explore because it seems those who want to help were a seen as less evolved.
I see it the way I do because no one protected me. I know others here have had the same experience. As a result I will protect others when possible. I have no hate for perpetrators i love them too but I won't just watch, how is that loving to either?
Many have said things are as they are, and are that way for a reason.
Well perhaps could those of us like myself have experienced being not protected chronically specifically so I could learn to be this person that is driven to protect others. Couldn't that too be exactly as it is because it's supposed to be that way? I'm supposed to have this drive to shelter others?
If one is acceptable even though it allows and accepts others suffering, how could it be less acceptable to stand in their place, take part of the pain or help to bring the perpetrators to awareness of what they are doing to others.
I know you will say something about control but the truth is by speaking we are not stopping or controlling anyone, just not letting someone continue without at least them having a voice in the distance saying hurting others isn't ok.
I know I'm not wording this 100% I'm still recovering from the head injury so I apologize. Truth is though if I'd rather take part of the suffering to ease another's, or take the brunt of someone's anger on behalf of someone who is to fearful to stand up for themselves, how is that control?
I wish as a kid someone had helped me. Anyone! There were so many people who could have for years things happened in plane sight that shouldn't have but they all were conditioned to accept things as they are or look the other way. I don't blame them but it certainly didn't help me. I choose to help when I can. Yet I see if someone had helped I'd not have become this person driven to shelter others.
Again I am learning that maybe for some they are not supposed to do anything but be accepting of all experience people suffer. At the same time it's hypocritical to think it's less as it's supposed to be to accept how things are but not accept it will continue that way.
Seems we've unfortunately lost a few members as a result and that sucks.
One of the contentious things was that some of us see not standing up for others and self in the face of injustice as "Silence Implies Consent" while others feel it's better to change inside and not try to stop things from affecting others or self. I'm not judging here just want to explore because it seems those who want to help were a seen as less evolved.
I see it the way I do because no one protected me. I know others here have had the same experience. As a result I will protect others when possible. I have no hate for perpetrators i love them too but I won't just watch, how is that loving to either?
Many have said things are as they are, and are that way for a reason.
Well perhaps could those of us like myself have experienced being not protected chronically specifically so I could learn to be this person that is driven to protect others. Couldn't that too be exactly as it is because it's supposed to be that way? I'm supposed to have this drive to shelter others?
If one is acceptable even though it allows and accepts others suffering, how could it be less acceptable to stand in their place, take part of the pain or help to bring the perpetrators to awareness of what they are doing to others.
I know you will say something about control but the truth is by speaking we are not stopping or controlling anyone, just not letting someone continue without at least them having a voice in the distance saying hurting others isn't ok.
I know I'm not wording this 100% I'm still recovering from the head injury so I apologize. Truth is though if I'd rather take part of the suffering to ease another's, or take the brunt of someone's anger on behalf of someone who is to fearful to stand up for themselves, how is that control?
I wish as a kid someone had helped me. Anyone! There were so many people who could have for years things happened in plane sight that shouldn't have but they all were conditioned to accept things as they are or look the other way. I don't blame them but it certainly didn't help me. I choose to help when I can. Yet I see if someone had helped I'd not have become this person driven to shelter others.
Again I am learning that maybe for some they are not supposed to do anything but be accepting of all experience people suffer. At the same time it's hypocritical to think it's less as it's supposed to be to accept how things are but not accept it will continue that way.