09-25-2010, 10:58 AM
Funny question.
Does STS people monitor this forum?
Does STS people monitor this forum?
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09-25-2010, 10:58 AM
Funny question.
Does STS people monitor this forum?
09-25-2010, 11:52 AM
09-25-2010, 12:14 PM
Carrie please keep coming up with these unusual questions.
I agree with L. Ra did say the Law of One teachings can be used to polarize on a negative path. Ra's message though was primarily for those interested in a positive polarity. Quo's messages, and this forum, even more overwhelmingly focused on service to others. Beyond a quick introduction to spiritual principles, a negatively oriented person would have little use for this site. It has mostly people who seek with all their hearts towards positive community, and very few discussions of how to build a manipulative power base. I think there would be little reason for an STS based person to hang around here much. There would be no reason to stick around - like a ninja at a peace rally, or a rapper at a symphony concert. Nothing there for them. Spiritually, this site would be of interest to negative forces, in the same way that pirates would be aware of a lighthouse. Something for them to avoid, because it could expose their activities. With so much excellent positive material on the Internet now, from LLR and many other sources, the entire coast is full of lighthouses. Rather than trying to blow up any particular lighthouse, the pirates have to go farther out to sea. As the corrupt ones try to find situations that are dark enough for their schemes, the area without any illumination grows smaller and smaller.
09-25-2010, 12:31 PM
there are much more profitable venues in this planet's society and societal mind for negative adepts and lackeys to use. some bunch of entities discussing advanced concepts, a goodly amount of which would come up as disconcerting and confusing to negative path, would be less efficient for any negative entity to pursue.
09-25-2010, 08:40 PM
09-25-2010, 09:37 PM
it is confusing and disconcerting for a noticeable number of the positive path anyway ....
09-26-2010, 03:50 AM
(This post was last modified: 09-26-2010, 03:51 AM by Protonexus.)
The confused and disconcerted are the bread and butter for certain STS entities, particularly the disincarnate.
It is realistic to assume that any one that does not know the Truth is susceptible to deception at any level. A Bible translation or a channeling may be 99% accurate but what can actually be changed in 1% as far as interpretation by an observer? The simple message is, never under-estimate the power of deception.
09-26-2010, 06:45 AM
I think it would be great if we had STS friends checking us out...we'd have to be spreading some huge light to get that kind of attention, plus it would be a unique opportunity to offer love. However, to a hard-core STS, I think this forum would probably be kind of nauseating. We'd shower them with so much love and acceptance their skin would crawl! :-)
I think this forum would be an important place for any STS master to visit. If nothing but just to conduct reconnaissance mission. To understand the current awareness levels of so many wanderers. An STS neophyte/minion might get distracted with all the mutual love and might even get confused. But someone who has already firmly chosen the STS polarity would be intrigued by this forum looking for strategic opportunity to cause conflict, confusion and chaos. They would be found derelict in their duty if they don't use the opportunity.
If I had to guess the current mission of the STS alliance then it is not to stop the earth turning 4D positive, they have already lost that battle in my opinion. The STS mission would be to minimize the numbers of people harvesting positively. Those that are not harvested and remain in 3D would start round 3/round X of this battle on some other planet. Just as Maldek people destroyed their planet and came to Earth to start Round X-1...
I believe you are exaggerating the importance of what we are doing in this forum, also, exaggerating the finesse, intent and determination of negative entities, and undermining their understanding of efficiency.
This is a waste for a negative adept to be trifling with, given the current state of planetary society. Means to achieve power over others exist in varied manners built into the system. The distribution of goods and services, production methods are negative in the first place (ie, the money/capitalist system). Then, there is the possibility of gaining immense power over others through religions, old, and newly 'invented'. Sects, cults, elite groups and so on. Politics, military, terrorism doesnt even need mentioning. Judging from what we know from examples in Ra tex, 3d negatives would be interested in more direct and surefire means to gain power and polarize (and wouldnt have much finesse in regard to the means you speak of), 4d negatives would be more busy with going with 'sins' and trying to tempt entities to losing positive or gaining polarity, (after all its an emotion filled density), and 5d entities would be increasingly intensified, having little interest in things than their own, few 5d entities being present in a negative societal hierarchy. Since we are not doing any kind of delicate energy work here in this forum in every thread, the attraction of forum in regard to energy matters would be low too. As for 6d negatives, firstly they are interested in nothing but themselves, second, they are in huge confusion to be dealing with anything else. Tho, some of you seem to be actually desiring for such a sto/sts confrontation, hinted by what you say. im sure if you have such a desire, you will attract some in your life. also i think the awareness levels of 'many' wanderers should not be exaggerated. a lot of people seem to be waking up, but, they seem to be newly waking up. and even when looking into the cases of them who woke up long ago, you can notice that they havent put a lot of principles, a lot of information they learned into practice. either disregarding them due to needs of life, or circumstances, or conditioning, or other reasons, or simply being indifferent.
09-27-2010, 02:02 AM
u100, I am not at all clear on your key points here. Would you mind explaining a bit further?
What do you see as an appropriate understanding of the importance of what we do in this forum? What opportunities do you see to replace what we are currently doing with something more important? Would you mind asking whoever, in your opinion, is hinting at a desire for confrontation, whether that is actually their intention? Sometimes hints can be mistakenly given or inadvertently misinterpreted. What do you see as a way to evaluate the awareness level of wanderers? What specific behavior would demonstrate or enable an increase of this level?
09-27-2010, 09:10 AM
U100, I would agree with you to a point...I do believe that a lot of people (and not just here) are subconsciously desiring a confrontation. I do not think this is a conscious effort to do something harmful to themselves, but more of a product of all the fear that is being circulated around these days, coupled with a psychological blockage that has occured when it comes to discussing this subject in an open and objective manner. I will say up front I INCLUDE MYSELF in this. Lately I have realized that this whole concept of battling negative entities like it's some kind of space opera is actually entertaining to me. It goes above and beyond the humdrum of everyday life, and it also allows me the chance to play the victim and boost my own self esteem, finding myself brave for standing up to all this confrontation. Only very recently have I realized these thoughts and behaviors within myself and began trying to modify them.
I do see an increasing number of people (and NOT just on this forum) seeming to become fixated on negative attacks, perceiving every stroke of foul luck as harrassment from a negative entity (again, I have been a big contributor to this). I sort of feel like too much emphasis has been put on this phenomenon...this pushing the fact that if you do anything good you're automatically going to draw negative contact. There are people who have experienced nothing as of yet, but are already EXPECTING to be attacked, which of course is going to open a window for attack...that's like laying down the welcome mat. You're already creating a space in your mind for these negative entities to fill. Of course, I am well aware that there are some people who do experience severe psychic attack, and I am in no way undermining their experiences. In severe cases this is a problem that simply can't be ignored, but I believe that thinking about it all the time, checking your closet for negative entities every night is only exacerbating the problem. Basically, if a negative entity decided to bother you, this is just CATALYST, nothing more. It's the same as someone being mean to you at work or cutting you off in traffic. You have the CHOICE of whether or not to let it get to you. If you handle it as you would in any other situation, with love and acceptance, it is allowed to pass on freely, both parties allowed to be of service in their own way. If you fixate on it and start creating a nexus of fear, well...what do you think these guys feed on? This next point probably sounds contradictory, but I think most people try to ignore the existence of STS way too much. People want to look at it as this big, mysterious dark thing...this conglomerate of super villians hiding in a layer creating some dastardly plot...it almost seems that many don't *want* to know more, to understand, accept and unify. There is an undeniable taboo on the subject. It's far more fun to turn it into a mystical black hole. You go poking around the edges, but no one is actually going to jump in there and see that, in reality, this is a bunch of people just living their lives in the way they deem appropriate. They make choices every day just like you and I, and they are seeking their own path to the Creator. I think it would benefit seekers to do an in-depth study of the STS lifestyle. Don't skirt around it, feeling ashamed for having questions or theories. It isn't a quest to dredge up new fears, to see what new horrors await us, but more like an archaeologist studying a new location. The STS way of life is there. Looking at it does not make you a bad person. Finding out about what is available in that way of life and considering if it's something you would go for does not make you a bad person. How can you make a sound decision without all the facts being available? I feel like a lot of this hype and concern about STS is really just simple curiosity, and the discomfort it brings could be alleviated by getting rid of the shame that comes with the acknowledgement of that curiosity. That being said, I am NOT dissing anyone on this forum, trying to correct anyone or make anyone else follow my beliefs. I am NOT attempting to undermine any of the experiences anyone has had, say they were made up or not important or anything else like that. This is only my opinion, and it could all be very wrong. I think the work done on this forum is amazing...that seekers can connect all over the world and support each other, discover new venues of seeking, share their experiences, bring us all closer together...I don't know what WOULD create a larger amount of light. I do not believe that anyone here had malicious intent...we are all doing our best to serve, seeking to learn from each other, and that is AWESOME. My main concerns on this topic simply stem from my own experience and how much unnecessary pain it has caused me. If I could save someone else from that pain, it would make me very happy. So please, PLEASE do not think I am attacking this forum or anyone on it. (09-27-2010, 02:02 AM)Questioner Wrote: u100, I am not at all clear on your key points here. Would you mind explaining a bit further? i think my post was clear enough. Quote:Would you mind asking whoever, in your opinion, is hinting at a desire for confrontation, whether that is actually their intention? Sometimes hints can be mistakenly given or inadvertently misinterpreted. Quote:What do you see as a way to evaluate the awareness level of wanderers? What specific behavior would demonstrate or enable an increase of this level? a good measure of awareness would be the number of, the purity of, and the extent of what they practice from what they learned. what i see is, a lot here, even who have been studying Ra and having paranormal experiences, omens, dreams and so on, sometimes consciously too, are easily ignoring practicing of what they have learned. (09-27-2010, 09:10 AM)ahktu Wrote: U100, I would agree with you to a point...I do believe that a lot of people (and not just here) are subconsciously desiring a confrontation. I do not think this is a conscious effort to do something harmful to themselves, but more of a product of all the fear that is being circulated around these days, coupled with a psychological blockage that has occured when it comes to discussing this subject in an open and objective manner. there would also be a percentage of entities with inclinations to heroism, fighting for good etc.
09-27-2010, 04:58 PM
Unity, I agree that a good measure of progress for an sto entity is the frequency, purity, and sincerity with which they put into practice what they've learned from spiritual text or other sources. Could you give examples though of how people here are consciously ignoring practicing of what they learn in the Ra material? Or is it just a feeling you have, that that is occurring? I'm curious as to how you draw that conclusion.
I think we just need to look at what Ra said about this and rest is nothing but you said and I said.
Quote:16.53 Questioner: Then would the Wanderers, as they incarnate here, be high-priority targets of the Orion group? regarding the modus operadi of the 4th and 5th density STS dealing with 3D- Quote:62.20 Questioner: What is the objective; what does the leader, the one at the very top of the pecking order in fifth-density of the Orion group, have as an objective? I would like to understand his philosophy with respect to his objectives and plans for what we might call the future or his future? I think it is very clear what STS group is trying to do. We can deny it , we can hide our face in the sand but that does not change the facts as spoken by Ra. (09-26-2010, 11:08 PM)unity100 Wrote: The distribution of goods and services, production methods are negative in the first place (ie, the money/capitalist system). Then, there is the possibility of gaining immense power over others through religions, old, and newly 'invented'. Sects, cults, elite groups and so on. Politics, military, terrorism doesnt even need mentioning. Exactly my point. You are describing what is happening. I am providing insight into why it is happening and how does it work. (09-27-2010, 09:10 AM)ahktu Wrote: I do see an increasing number of people (and NOT just on this forum) seeming to become fixated on negative attacks, perceiving every stroke of foul luck as harrassment from a negative entity (again, I have been a big contributor to this). I agree that is true about some people for sure. Don't know what gave you this impression to bring this up at this point. I certainly am a firm believer in being responsible for our own actions. We are the cause of what ever is happening in our lives. But that does not stop me from trying to understand the 3D game that we are playing. Both the sides; offense and defense. It is fun for me to explore the strategies that each sides are adopting STO versus STS. In the big scheme of things IT IS ALL GOOD. And all of this is contributing to the expansion of the octave... (09-26-2010, 11:08 PM)unity100 Wrote: Tho, some of you seem to be actually desiring for such a sto/sts confrontation, hinted by what you say. im sure if you have such a desire, you will attract some in your life. I am just doing an analysis and answering a question. If talking about STS strategies brings confrontations with STS then you should not talk about that talk either or you might end up attracting it too
09-28-2010, 02:31 AM
(09-27-2010, 04:58 PM)Aaron Wrote: Unity, I agree that a good measure of progress for an sto entity is the frequency, purity, and sincerity with which they put into practice what they've learned from spiritual text or other sources. Could you give examples though of how people here are consciously ignoring practicing of what they learn in the Ra material? Or is it just a feeling you have, that that is occurring? I'm curious as to how you draw that conclusion. there has been numerous occasions in different discussions in which i have pointed to the contradiction of some people's approach to certain things. i dont see the need to reiterate things, as if delivering judgment. however, people seem to be ignoring/evading simplest of conclusions. (09-27-2010, 09:39 PM)thefool Wrote: Exactly my point. You are describing what is happening. I am providing insight into why it is happening and how does it work. quote you linked, however, is relevant to how call/negative encouragement works in regard to 3d harvest, and 3d entities' calls. it doesnt relate directly to the question posed here, in regard to advanced concepts, wanderers, and advanced information. most of the elements that involve the quote you linked, would be found in daily life of this society.
09-29-2010, 10:11 PM
Excuse me for going a little bit off topic.
Unity100, I was under the impression that after 5d(neg), there was no other negatively oriented densities. You mention a 6d neg and I've never heard of it. If it's not too much to ask, could you please tell me about it or where I can read about it. Thanks buddy.
09-29-2010, 10:35 PM
its 6d info and negative path info found in Ra text.
negatives has to switch to positive in early 6d. so, there can be negative 6d entities at the start of 6d.
10-07-2010, 07:31 PM
There was an entity who came to our forum when it first launched who purported to follow the negative path. If memory serves this was the user 'Chaotik Mind', who started a thread entitled 'Biased view of STS' in which he/she(?) made a case for people on the STO path not fully understanding the STS path. My overall impression was that this person probably wasn't very dedicated to the STS path as they had decided to enter in to information exchanges with people of a loving nature. But that again underscores the point of his/her statement, in that it is possible that I do not fully understand. It was an interesting dialog...
here it is: http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthrea...=89&page=1 |
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